User talk:LadyBeth

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Sockpuppet investigation

Hi. An editor has opened an investigation into sockpuppetry by you. Sockpuppetry is the use of more than one Wikipedia account in a manner that contravenes community policy. The investigation is being held at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Nagihuin, where the editor who opened the investigation has presented their evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with the guide to responding to investigations, and then feel free to offer your own evidence or to submit comments that you wish to be considered by the Wikipedia administrator who decides the result of the investigation. If you have been using multiple accounts (in a manner contrary to Wikipedia policy), please go to the investigation page and verify that now. Leniency is usually shown to those who promise not to do so again, or who did so unwittingly, but the abuse of multiple accounts is taken very seriously by the Wikipedia community. Mlpearc (open channel) 19:18, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, I know Nagihuin is being under heavy pressure just because another user didn't like his maps and instead of joining the talk pages and giving actual reasons, he's calling the heavy artillary. I'm a friend of him, I'm also a Wikipedia reader and a lover of history and politics. That doesn't make me a sock puppet, I'd say that makes the entire Wikipedia system a little distorted.LadyBeth (talk) 08:15, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

I have had no part in this or any other related discussion. I can however see the volume of edits being made and wonder whether you are making your arguments at the right place and at the right time. There is an old adage When you find yourself in a deep hole, stop digging. Please just take a pause for a moment and consider. Thanks  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   12:51, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

This is a sad history of a fantastic mapmaker being beaten to virtual death by Wikihounding and Meatpuppetry, if that is OK within Wikipedia, I'm definitely very disappointed.LadyBeth (talk) 13:01, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

I don't even know how to open an Investigation of Wikihounding and Meatpuppetry over SantiLak, Mlpearc and Vsmith , because that would back Nagihuin up. If you Velella know how to conduct it, let me know. LadyBeth (talk) 13:05, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

You could try making a short and concise statement [here] and seeking advice as to whether it was the right forum and then expending on it if there is agreement that that is the right place. For what little it is worth, arguments are won on Wikipedia when the argument is short, concise, logical and un-emotional. I have no idea about the rights and wrongs of the Sockpuppet investigation you are involved with, but I can be reasonably certain that short focussed arguments get the admins attention much more than a lengthy catalogue of examples with frequent repetition of the allegations. Admins are human and despite their best efforts may react negatively to a barrage of allegation , especially when thos allegations are outside of the remit of the Notice board.  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   13:11, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Velella.

From what I can see, Wikipedia functions more like a closed gang of "insiders" and newbies and outsiders are beaten to virtual death. This was completely ignored by some of us that just joined. I considered putting some money into this while ago, but this confirms me the Human Ego and Destruction Will has no frontiers, not even the virtual Wikilands have borders on this. LadyBeth (talk) 13:23, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Sigh..... No that was not what I suggested. You may very well be accused of forum shopping doing that and the accusation may well be fair. It may be time to take a break and return to Wikipedia in a few months. Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   13:27, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

There is no forum shopping on that, we can't create thousands of rules and pretend new users know them all, then banning the new ones because of their lack of experience, if that's what you are suggesting with the months thing. Wikipedia shouldn't be a tennis court of new users being harassed or blocked for months back and forth, but I'm sadly confirming it may be. LadyBeth (talk) 13:40, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

April 2015

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, as you did at Talk:Superpower, you may be blocked from editing. Your sockpuppetry assertion requires proof and an WP:SPI. NeilN ^{talk to me} 13:18, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

I claim that Nagihuin is being under heavy pressure and hes beaten to virtual death by a bunch of teamed up users.

Having hundreds of editions does not mean you have reason.

Wikipedia shouldn't be the private jungle of virtual tyrants.

Thanks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#I_claim_Nagihuin_is_subject_to_Wikihounding_and_under_pressure_by_Meatpuppetry

LadyBeth (talk) 13:20, 29 April 2015 (UTC)