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Please help me with...Hi everybody! Who can help me... LK coach (talk) 21:42, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I want to publish the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ranko_Kumovi%C4%87 for real. What should I do? LK coach (talk) 21:53, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. The draft was created with out the submission template at the top. I've added it, so when you are ready you can click the button on it to submit the draft for review. However, if you did submit it and I were reviewing it, I would decline it. You have relied on a single source [1] which lists him as a player; basically a directory entry. This doesn't help to establish notability. You should see WP:NBASKETBALL. As is, there is nothing in the article which suggests this player meets those criteria. Further, there's no citations to reliable sources to support this player passing WP:GNG notability requirements. Please develop the article using reliable, secondary sources. If no such sources exist, this player simply isn't notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. Not every player is notable. --Hammersoft (talk) 23:42, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ranko Kumović (February 16)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Aseleste was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines for sports persons and athletes). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

One reference is almost never enough for inclusion. There are pretty much no results about the person on Google so this article is unlikely to be ever accepted. Unless there are sources that I am not aware of, I think it is best to work on something else more notable or non-content tasks.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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~ Ase1este_{charge-parity}^time 11:28, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, LK coach! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! ~ Ase1este_{charge-parity}^time 11:28, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Aseleste! You were very fast to decline this article! I don't agree with your decision - this player was a part of a National team of Serbia on an European level of competition. Also, this is the 3th season of paying in the First league of Serbia.

BR LK coach (talk) 11:56, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ranko Kumović (February 16)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Hammersoft was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines for sports persons and athletes). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

As previously noted on your talk page, there is nothing here sufficient to establish notability per WP:NBASKETBALL or WP:GNG. A promising young player, sure as established by this cite you provided, but not yet notable per our notability standards. --Hammersoft (talk) 13:33, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Ranko Kumović and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Ranko Kumović, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{Db-g7}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
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Hammersoft (talk) 13:33, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Ranko Kumović and your images on Commons

I've declined the draft submission, as this player is not yet notable per WP:NBASKETBALL or WP:GNG based on the provided sources. This cite you provided is the only one that begins to establish notability. The rest of the citations are simply directory entries, as I previously noted. One citation about some upcoming youth is no sufficient to establish notability per WP:NBASKETBALL.

Also, I noted on your talk page on Commons that so far all the images you have uploaded to Commons have been copyright violations. Commons takes copyright very seriously. See the note on your talk page on Commons for more information. --Hammersoft (talk) 13:58, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again,

Could you please explain to me why his teammates could have passed the validation of notability and this person could not? Dušan Beslać Aleksa Zarić BR LK coach (talk) 14:18, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is, and never will be, perfect. Looking at those articles, they probably should be deleted for the same reasons this draft hasn't been accepted. You should also be aware of Wikipedia:Other stuff exists; simply because something similar exists elsewhere on the project doesn't provided an argument as to why something needs to exist. I'm sure you can see the logical order of this; if a person creates a bad article, and lots of other people say other bad articles should not be deleted because that bad article exists too, the project would be overwhelmed with bad content. This is why we have the notability standards at WP:NBASKETBALL and WP:GNG. --Hammersoft (talk) 14:47, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Hammersoft, This is my first article :( and I hope not the last! This person has National level recognition and for surly is and will be well known. Besides - today is his birthday! Let them pass :)

BR LK coach (talk) 14:54, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, call me a curmudgeon, but I'm not going to approve an article for someone just because it's their birthday :) With all respect to Serbia, a Serbian national U18 team isn't significant from a notability stand point. There are zillions of upcoming potential basketball stars in the world, many of whom get selected for this or that significant young person's team. Almost all of them are not notable. There are a few, very rare, exceptions. I see no evidence to suggest this player could be one of those exceptions. --Hammersoft (talk) 15:11, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ha, ha, ... Sorry! We will see - but you are right in one, there is to many trash in Wiki(zillions!?) - why to mix with it...? Have a nice day. I'm sorry for the time spent - but again, it's an experience. You just need to keep your reputation...

Have a nice day, Ljiljana LK coach (talk) 15:23, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ranko Kumović (May 19)

Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by Hammersoft was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia.

Hammersoft (talk) 13:16, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Ranko Kumović

Hello, LK coach. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Ranko Kumović, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 17:01, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Ranko Kumović

Hello, LK coach. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Ranko Kumović".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 16:48, 20 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]