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Hi Krivo. Yes you are right, Kendu made the same comment on my Talk page (that a change, if made, should be consistent). I replied with some worries of my own. Please join the argument at my Talk page (bottom of the page), I find it important. Also, while undoing my revision, you undid a correction of Novak's prize money and two notes, one of which is cruically important. --GoodIntentionedFreak (talk) 16:19, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Murray Olympics appearances / rev. commenting

Hi Krivo, Yeah you are right, Murray did participate twice. Such a silly revision of me, since I made the original table with the "2 appearances" criterium and included Murray! Good to have people awake. I see you contribute a lot -- would it be too much for you to comment your revisions more frequently? Just a little copy-paste, like "Adding Novak's USO SF win"? So e.g. if I come to add a win, I can check history and see immediately if it had been done, without going through comparisons. Thank you in any case. --GoodIntentionedFreak (talk) 10:56, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi GoodIntentionedFreak!

Ok, no problem, everyone makes mistakes. Yeah, you're right, it's better to post a comment but still someone could check comparisons if I didnt make a mistake.Krivo4457 (talk) 01:30, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

ATP world tour records/Borg

Hey Krivo, i saw your input on the ATP World Tour Records page, on Borg's DC wins - are you sure about this, where did you get this information, and you know if there's a reason the ATP didn't include these numbers? I've created a page based on the ATP World Tour Records, but with all the adjustments for the entire Open Era, so starting in 1968 (which is so much more logical i think), hence my question. You might enjoy the page as well, and it would be great to get more editors to it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennis_Records_Open_Era_(Singles_Men). Thanks Kendu020 (talk) 20:32, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Kendu020, appreciate your work. I have no idea why the official ATP page lists only 7 Davis Cup singles matches of Borg (2 vs Czechoslovakia in 1975, in 1979 2 vs Romania and 1 vs Czechoslovakia and in 1980 2 vs West Germany, look here http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Bo/B/Bjorn-Borg.aspx?t=pa&y=0&m=s&e=0#) when in fact he has played 40 Davis Cup singles matches http://www.daviscup.com/en/players/player/profile.aspx?playerid=10002258 . And in ATP World Tour records page all ATP (= listed by ATP) and Davis Cup matches are relevant. This is one of bugs on the official ATP page, but a major one, because it changes a significant record - winning streak. Without those DC matches Borg's 2 longest winning streaks are 43 and 35 matches long, with them 49 and 48 (1st and 2nd place in the open era).

Thanks for the response, and for updating the other page already. I do think the Tennis Records Open Era page is a useful addition - I'm actually hoping eventually it will replace the ATP world tour records, since the cut-off at 1972 to me is totally random and irrational (no one sees any difference between '71 and '72, except for this wiki page...). Thanks for the input! Kendu020 (talk) 14:07, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Vilas' French Open match wins record

Hi Krivo! I've corrected Vilas' French Open match wins record from 56 to 58. The ATP apparently ignores two of Vilas' match wins in the 1972 French Open. It excludes Vilas' wins in the rounds of 256 and 128. As Voo de Mar and I discovered, the the ITF site correctly lists these two wins, as these are actually main draw wins and not qualifying matches. Let me know if you spot any other errors in records, as I'll be more than willing to help. Cheers! —Bloom6132 (talk) 09:43, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bloom6132! That's great you two dicsovered another bug by ATP. The 1972 French Open page could be corrected then. For sure I'll let you know other errors if I spot any. I'm sick of all those bugs on the official ATP website. Good job!Krivo4457 (talk) 08:36, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Consecutive streaks: ive counted 19 times

Thanks for the correction. I obviously had a counting problem last night. :-) Fyunck(click) (talk) 20:10, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

ATP world tour records : rankings before 1984

Hello Krivo, I tried to look at the question of most weeks in the top-2, 3, 4, 5 ATP rankings myself as it's done on the "ATP world tour records" page on wikipedia, but as you know, it's hard before june 1984 because the infos are not updated weekly on the "rankings pages" on the ATP website. Of course I tried to get an opinion by looking at the rankings history of several players together but still it leaves some questions opened. Then I wondered if I could find any other source for that on this "ATP world tour records" wikipedia page and I found that you seemed to have some original contributions. Especially you say somewhere (17th of september 2012 13.48) "corrected numbers according to the official ATP media guide" : what's that official ATP media guide and what infos do you have there precisely, could you tell me ? Especially, I saw that you were also the source of putting Lendl at 409 weeks in the top-2 from your revisions on the 10th and 11th of july 2012, and you seem to say that he was number 2 for 44 consecutive weeks in 1982, and that's precisely an info which I'm wondering about (from the ATP rankings history there seems to be 42 weeks between the 11th of january and the 1st of november 1982 but I do indeed wonder about where he was ranked in the weeks before the 11th of january 1982 : do you have an info on that ? (I read indeed on various "year-end-rankings" sources that he was number 2 in the end of 1981 but when exactly does it mean he got there ?) And for the number of weeks in the top-4 or 5, it would also be nice to know his exact ranking during 1981 (and 1980) ! (also for Borg ...) I also see that you were the one who said that Connors was not in the top-3 in the beginning of 1982 and then you disagreed that he had 595 weeks in the top-3 as Ghijk62 and myself rather guess from the ranking histories on the ATP website : you had 560 weeks yourself, do you have any info for that ? I would be glad to know what infos you have on these rankings in 1981-1982, thanks in advance, François Duong70 (talk) 01:17, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Duong, very sorry for my late response because I haven't been contributing for some time now. I'm glad that you appreciated my work in this issue and thank you for your contribution. In the september correction i was just referring to the official year-end #1 rankings in ATP media guide and corrected especially Lendl's numbers of how many times he ended in the concrete YE stats (that 1981 disputable year-end). To answer your remaining questions: No, unfortunately I don't know any info about this issue different from the official ATP Rankings. I was just using common sense for all those stats i.e. 2 players can't have the same ranking at the same time so the 'new' player replaces the 'old' one on that place and the old one is ranked 1 place worse etc. All those numbers I used were counted precisely with the official ATP Rankings as the only source. But after some time I realised that all this work is pointless because some important tournaments weren't counted in the Rankings and a much bigger research is needed in this topic i.e. count again with a proper ranking system all the relevant tournaments and create own rankings but this ranking would be just your more or less subjective view of the situation and this is no more a topic for wikipedia (you must have a relevant source for all your data).Krivo4457 (talk) 21:59, 5 November 2013 (UTC)Krivo4457 (talk) 22:13, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tennis Walkovers never count

As per the page sources, Novak's win at the ATP Finals today does not constitute a meeting between the players. It never does. The ATP acknowledges the walkover but they don't tally it in any way. Hence the 36 meetings between the two. Just an FYI. Happy editing. Fyunck(click) (talk) 07:15, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's the same in this list. We acknowledges it in total match count but don't count in the H2H completely the same like the ATP. We just put "*" next to it and in the notes all the stuff about walkovers is written.Krivo4457 (talk) 11:11, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There was never a match between the two. There head to head at the ATP site is 36, not 37. You can put an asterix next to 36* and say there was also a walkover, but not the other way around. Fyunck(click) (talk) 20:10, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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