User talk:Kirklloyd

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Speedy deletion nomination of User:Kirklloyd/sandbox

A tag has been placed on your user page, User:Kirklloyd/sandbox, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be advertising which only promotes or publicises someone or something. Promotional editing of any kind is not permitted, whether it be promotion of a person, company, product, group, service, belief, or anything else. This is a violation of our policies regarding acceptable use of user pages — user pages are intended for active editors of Wikipedia to communicate with one another as part of the process of creating encyclopedic content, and should not be mistaken for free webhosting resources or advertising space. Please read the guidelines on spam, the guidelines on user pages, and, especially, our FAQ for Organizations.

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August 2020

Your account has been blocked indefinitely from editing because of the following problems: the account has been used for advertising or promotion, which is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia, and your username indicates that the account represents a business or other organisation or group or a web site, which is against the username policy.

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Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:15, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Kirklloyd (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Kirk Lloyd is my name. There is no spam in my username. The page I created for Bont Skates is a sandbox page which from my understanding is for me to create prior to publishing live in Wikipedia. Bont is a company similar to Rollerblade who have a Wikipedia page. I am not getting paid by Bont to produce the Wikipedia page, but I am friends with the Bont family. I have the technical skills and the time to write this for them. It is not used for "promotion" or "spam", rather adding a page of historical importance to the speed skating sport. Bont made lots of technological advancements that are now widely used in the ice, inline and roller skating sports. The very first edit I made on Wikipedia was to REMOVE a malicious link to a hacked website. I also added a link to the Bont website as it matched the other external links already on the page. Kirklloyd (talk) 06:38, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Clear violation of WP:COI here. Claiming that you are not writing for them for promotional reasons beggars belief. Don't treat us like idiots. This was a clear violation of WP:PROMO and WP:PAID. Yamla (talk) 10:42, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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That's a lot of repetition. The fact of the matter is that you spammed a commercial website into an encyclopedia article. The evidence is clear, even if you also removed a bad link. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:41, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure what the repetition you see is, I think there was an issue with the first review code I added. I quickly fixed it, I think i missed the 4 ~ at the end. I don't agree with "spammed a commercial website into an encyclopedia article", but I understand your point of view. The link wasn't added for commercial purposes, it was added to match the link directly above "[2]" which is the exact same type of link(Linking to pinnacle racing). Perhaps I should have read further on Wikipedia to find out that the existing links were, in fact, a breach of policy and I only added to the issue. I didn't and I can't change that. None of that changes that I was writing an article on Bont, the company I have been accused of spamming, that has now been deleted for a minor edit blown out of proportion. Is this decision final? As in, am I wasting my and your time by responding? I'm not a spammer, rather a person who made a mistake over a month ago and wants to continue drafting a page on Bont to have reviewed for addition to Wikipedia once it's completed.Kirk Lloyd 08:26, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I did not treat anyone like an idiot as you have so politely written. I read your guidelines on requesting for a review to be undertaken and I tried to keep my tone civil and not escalate the conversation (something I feel you haven't followed. I did read on your profile that you mean no harm and can be taken harshly or out of context so will assume I have done this), I answered honestly and openly. Now I have seen your reply, I can see where I break the rules. The WP:COI link was not mentioned before. Some feedback, perhaps the explanation for the ban could be explained a little better in the first notification for future users. I did not understand the section I was in breach of until you linked WP:COI in the second response. I accept that I am in breach of the COI policy only. I don't believe I was writing from a biased point of view but I do understand the need for this policy. My initial edit was to remove a spam link and add Bont, this breached COI which was not my intention. I do hope that someone will pick up an article on Bont and understand I can't write it. The article was never about promotion, it was about adding the contributions Bont has had to the skating industry like Rollerblade and Riedell_Skates. The articles on inline speed skating are missing information the on current features of inline speed skating boots for which Bont are responsible. Kirk Lloyd 13:37, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]