User talk:Killua

Tankini

I responded on both my talkpage and this one; you can reply on mine if you like.

People can't wear tankinis like that where I live. It'd be called public indecency because it's basically nudity. And how is a see-through clothing for women of any type non-sexual? I'm not opposed to pictures that are sexual if they are appropriate for the topic, but this is not. Indeed, it is misleading. I have never seen a translucent tankini in my life. They are often viewed as a more conservative version of the bikini. That picture flips the reality of the tankini on its head. Killua 05:18, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Public indecency? Even on a beach? Can women not go topless on normal beaches in the USA, except for desginated nudist beaches? In Europe and the UK, women can go topless in hotel swimming pools and on beaches and so on. That's quite interesting, I didn't know it was banned in the US. Saccerzd 11:49, 16 July 2006 (UTC) Saccerzd 11:50, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Clutter of Life

I checked around before moving it, and posted a comment on the talk page. I see even the first line of the article refers to the "culture of life", all lower case. Anyway, not a big deal. Cheers, -Will Beback 18:33, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Katherine Harris

Although she opposes abortion, she supports the death penalty, so I have to wonder if there's not a better term than classifying her as 'pro-life'.ThuranX 22:22, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: Repro rights

In the interest of keeping the discussion in one place, I would prefer if we could just have this conversation on the RR talk page. Please see my response there. Thanks, romarin [talk ] 21:04, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

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Paul Robeson

I responded to your edits more extensively on the discussion page. Paul Robeson, like any figure requires copious research and knowledge of subject before one can start calling cited facts "POVs" eg: "Some states failing to stand up for people of color.." Is that to say states without Jim Crow were all standing up for blacks? Well they were not, its not historically debatable. I think its clear that the majority of white America was allowing lynching, segregation and poll tax to continue. One could say the "US government" instead of white America but then who elected them? Virtually, Robeson's entire life as an activist was about challenging the world wide white supremacist/pro-colonist/fascist power structure. From the baseball field to African independence to anti-Lynching etc that is all anti-white supremacy activism not mainstream. Read Martin Duberman's biography as well as Robeson's Here I Stand. That would be a great start. Thanks Catherine Huebscher (talk · contribs) 21:41, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Killua, which entire states stood up? can you tell us when and how? You should still do research and you should still have cites, seeing as ENCYCLOPEDIC seems to be your operative phrase. Clearly, you have no idea what or whom you are writing about and yes, that does not preclude you from editing in any capacity but don't you want to have at least some knowledge of the subject you're editing?

"The black press self-identifies as such, while the mainstream press did not identify as being 'white'. '

Not true in regards to Robeson, please read Martin Duberman's Paul Robeson. There were entire all white staffs on a few of the paper's during Robeson's era that were "the white man's daily" it was either stated clearly or subtly but it was obvious where bias and racial attitudes fell. Robeson was kept off of US television by the all white management of NBC as well, that is white on black racism. That's not POV, that is history. A lot white American history in juxtaposition with Robeson, IS very, very ugly, that is not racist to cite; unfathomable as may be to read, it is history. Just like Farrakhan is an anti-Semite who has lauded Hitler.

'Generalizing like that is racist and POV. Just because Paul Robeson was a famous civil rights activist does not mean this article has to adopt the language of civil rights activism"

There is zero language that is civil rights activist. You simply do not know the history nor the subject matter, as YOU have maintained. I can't see how that qualifies you to understand nuance and subtly in a person's biography, Robeson is a vastly complex individual much more so than most.I'm white btw so please don't try to stereotype me as being "Afrocentric" ala "reverse racism" which is what I feel you are implying. We don't agree and that's ok, I can compromise on this and that is all that matters. ThanksCatherine Huebscher (talk · contribs) 6:19, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Killua, I'm attached to HISTORY being told honestly without protecting white supremacy. I've read your articles and I would say the same about you and we do not share anything in common! I think statements like "some States" and "tons of white people working for Civil rights" are examples of wishful and imagined history. So again, where are those states who 'stood up'? As for papers, start with the New York Times, in 1890, who's all white staff and editor championed the lynching of 11 Italian Americans over their alleged murder of David Hennessy (this was when Italians were not considered "white" in the US) and then work your way through most of the white owned papers during the next 60 or so odd years. Apologies for lynchings, rabid and overt racism towards blacks, native Americans and any immigrants who had not yet assimilated and been able to become "white" (eg:Irish) is the rule not the thinly veiled exception or some imagined POV. White supremacy and right wing domination of resources and the working classes is expressed and defended in editorial after editorial, article after article. Robeson was a HUGE target, even before he expressed sympathies for socialism. Rankin, Bilbo, Dies etc those were proud KKK, N word shouting ELECTED members of congress, it's not a POV to call them white supremacists, they'd have been the first to admit it proudly. You still are speaking, self admittedly, about a person's life that you have no back ground in and I don't see how that is pro-wikipedia. You said you have knowledge of the civil rights movement; Paul Robeson is one of the main reasons there was a civil rights movement in the first place, which is why he was known as the "great forerunner", look up WEB dubois as well if you'd like. To not those know two very well is to have missed most of the crucial origins of the civil rights and stateside anti-colonialists movements, inter-war and Post WW11. And in regards to Robeson, to know little about the historically crucial black actors and singers of stage and screen who first shattered racist stereotypes propagated like law by the white media and the eugenics movement. Catherine Huebscher (talk · contribs) 9:31, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Hello, I recollect that you commented on NPOV and other issues in articles on Paul Robeson. If you are interested, could you please have a look at and comment on my recent overhaul of the article. Cheers! Str1977 ^(talk) 08:54, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

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