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thanks for the work on the NASL 83-84 indoor season hope you can help out on the other idoor years of the league as wellSmith03 (talk) 18:14, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, and yes, I plan on working on both the indoor and outdoor seasons. KidFlash25 (talk) 18:20, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

NASL info

Thanks for filling in that 1983 playoff shootout score. I have several other "blanks" in my NASL research. Hopefully you can help.
-1. 1975 playoff semifinal between LA & St. Louis actually went on to PK shootout, but I couldn't find the PK score.St. Louis won 4-3
-2. 1976 playoff semifinal between Toronto & Chicago also went on past OT on to PKs, looking for the PK score.Toronto won 3-1
-3. 1980 playoff first round Game 2 between LA & Washington went to a shootout, but I can't find the SO score. LA won 5-4
-4. 1983 playoff semifinal Game 1 between Tulsa & Montreal went to a shootout, but I can't find the SO score. This is the only one I haven't been able to find yet.
-5. In the area of changes from year to year, in 1975 and 1976 all tied games went to two 7.5 minute, golden goal OTs, then PKs (in '74 it was staight to PKs after 90 min.). That should be stated on the 1975 season page, but it would need a reference, which I can't find. No luck on my end, either.
-6. There may be other NASL playoff games that went to OT, PKs or a SO that I've overlooked.
kind regards, Creativewill (talk) 02:21, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I have a document with all of the OT goals/shootout scores I've been able to find via Google News, GenealogyBank and local research. (The Rochester Democrat and Chronicle usually didn't print boxscores, but their Lancers game stories were pretty thorough with information.)

I've added what I can in italics. I do prefer adding the time and scorer of each playoff OT goal, like what the NHL does with their official playoff stats every year, but it's not a big deal.

I've posted a 1979 season summary with references, similar to what I did for 1978. When I'm done, I'll post it around what you've done. Best, KidFlash25 (talk) 04:02, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I'll get right to these. My best google NP sources have been the St. Petersburg Times, the Evening Independent, and Lakeland Ledger. I remember as a kid the Tampa Bay area papers all gave fantastic NASL coverage once the Rowdies joined in 1975. You'll find quite a few box scores for Rowdies' games over the years (sometimes on page 2 of the sports section instead of with the article, but they're usually there). In fact, nearly all of my work on the 1983 NASL Grand Prix of Indoor Soccer is referenced by those three newspapers' coverage of the GP. All I found on that the 1983 MTL/TUL match (in the Montreal Gazette) was that match went into the 12th round before Pesa won it.

As far as time and scorer of OT goals goes, I approach it like this: As these NASL pages continue to develop, more info can be added. For instance (as you know) only Soccer Bowl '78 has it's own page among the NASL finals, and there you'll find fully expanded info on the match, similar to what you'd find with cup finals in other nations. I wouldn't mind seeing the entire playoffs section of each year looking a bit more like those of other soccer competitions (i.e. more like what I've done with each NASL final). For my own part I've tried to give the NASL pages a standard look that's easy to read, so that when you jump from year to year you are seeing the same kinds of things. Thanks again for your help. Creativewill (talk) 15:55, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Yeah, those are excellent sources. I like the idea of a separate playoff section as well, sort of like how the NBA/NHL pages are done. The challenge would be in finding the linescores of certain games (like that 1983 one) outside of the South Florida/basic AP coverage. KidFlash25 (talk) 02:58, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Another little NASL indoor mystery

You were saying that the Rochester NPs gave a lot of coverage to the Lancers in a previous message. Any chance they listed the attendance figures from the indoor Regionals in 1975 and 76? Or who made the All-Regional team? In 1975 the game dates were Feb 6th and 8th and the Lancers were the host. In 1976 the dates were March 13th and 14th and the Chicago was the host. I have no idea what the attendance was in the San Jose regionals either year or in the 1975 Dallas regional. One again, any help would be awesome! Thanks in advance. Creativewill (talk) 21:28, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The D&C had coverage, but no attendance numbers or all-regional teams for 1976. I added the attendance for 1975. Also, I'm looking into visiting the University of Rochester library since they have the New York Times on file and the Central Library downtown doesn't, and considering interlibrary loans for other cities' newspapers. KidFlash25 (talk) 22:01, 9 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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