User talk:Khasab

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October 2024

Hello! I'm Belbury. Your recent edit(s) to the page The customer is always right appear to have added incorrect information, so they have been reverted for now. If you believe the information you added was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Belbury (talk) 17:10, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not add or change content, as you did at The customer is always right, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Editing the lead of an article to say that the claims it makes are "in fact a piece of misinformation" really, really requires a published source to back that up. There's a discussion at Talk:The customer is always right#Full quote? if you can add to it. Belbury (talk) 08:33, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some advice

Looking through the list of your contributions, I see that you have made some constructive edits and some questionable ones. Please keep in mind the following:

If your edit has been reverted but you think your edit is helpful, please read the edit description for the revert and start a discussion on the talk page; repeatedly attempting to perform your edit is not usually helpful. (See the Bold, Revert, Discuss essay for more details.) The exception to this is if you are attempting to stop persistent trolling or vandalism yourself.
Please try to use proper formatting and grammar, and especially be careful to avoid accidentally deleting or messing up existing content. You can use the "Review your changes" button to see what changes you're making, and if you're using the source editor, you can use the "Preview" button to see how the page will end up looking. You can use a sandbox to experiment with edits more freely.
Please cite your sources if you are adding new information; this is required for certain categories of information and is always encouraged. See the guideline on citing sources for details on how to do this properly, but even a poorly-formatted citation is better than nothing.

Feel free to let me know if you have any questions.

Solomon Ucko (talk) 20:14, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well firstly there's nothing wrong with my grammar. Everybody knows this quote. What do you suggest would be considered a reliable source that I'm supposed to quote. Everybody knows the full form of that statement is "the customer is always right in matters of taste" how am I supposed to prove that there are all kinds of things all over the internet I sent the other person the URL to a video showing somebody talking about the full quote and I also sent a link to one of the many websites that can be found in an instant search pointing out what the full quote is. Am I supposed to have some specific verified counter signed proof that Harry Selfridge said that quote? Khasab (talk) 08:46, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In your latest edits on "The customer is always right", your grammar was mostly fine, but there were some missing commas and appostrophes and some extraneous whitespace, and more importantly, the existing reference was misplaced: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1249866282&oldid=1249852410&title=The_customer_is_always_right

See WP:RS for an explanation of what is considered a reliable source; the short version is that it should be produced by someone focused primarily on informing rather than entertaining, and it should be reviewed, edited, or checked by other people before it is published. I don't know what specifically your sources are, so I can't really evaluate them.

Solomon Ucko (talk) 09:36, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You have misspelt 'appostrophes' :) This stuff is common knowledge. it is all over the internet, but there is nobody doing any kind of academic check on it such as you seem to be asking for. That does not make it any less the truth. There is no academic reference you can have than the fact that many people claim that Harry selfridge's original quote was "the customer is always right in matters of taste"

here for example is someone using it in a video short

https://youtube.com/shorts/--p8Fi3baG0?si=YAaE2z11Qe7HxEsD Khasab (talk) 11:15, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, true, oops, I did make a typo; I was rushing a bit and not paying enough attention to little details.

The quote with "in matters of taste" was present in the article on 2022 April 18–28 (added in [1], reverted in [2]), 2022 September 13 ([3], [4]), 2022 September 21 ([5], [6]), 2024 February 9–10 ([7], [8]), 2024 March 15 ([9], [10]), 2024 March 23 ([11], [12]), 2024 April 4 ([13], [14]), 2024 April 9 ([15], [16]), 2024 April 20 ([17], [18]), 2024 April 21 ([19], [20]), 2024 May 20 ([21], [22]), 2024 May 22 ([23], [24]), 2024 September 4 ([25], [26]), 2024 October 6 ([27], [28]), and 2024 October 6–7 again ([29], [30]). (The last two of these are your edits.) None of these ever cited a source, except for one that vaguely referred to "a quick research" in the edit description ([31]). There are also some additional related edits: A note was added to the Wikitext of the article on 2024 April 9 ([32]). An unsourced attempt to explain the recent origin of "in matters of taste" was added on 2024 June 24 ([33]) and removed the same day for not citing a source ([34]).

The video you linked was published on 2024 March 4, so they may have based it on what they saw in the Wikipedia article on 2024 February 9–10. There were 8 attempts in 2024 March–May to add it after the video was posted, compared to only 4 in the years before, so there's a good chance this video may have spurred those attempts to add it. Keep in mind that this video does not seem to be a reliable source:

It does not cite a specific source; it merely hints that the quote is mentioned online somewhere
It seems to be primarily intended to entertain people and make a point, moreso than being a source of fact
The channel (@ChrisKohlerNews) is focused on finance news, so this is outside their area of expertise
There is no evidence of any kind of pre-publication review or fact-checking

I'm working on searching through academic databases I have access to in order to see what the earliest origin I can find for the quote with "in matters of taste" is; I'll post my results on the article's talk page once I'm done. See The customer is always right#Origin and usage and Talk:The customer is always right#Full quote? for existing research on the origins of the phrase "the customer is always right".

Solomon Ucko (talk) 20:20, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]