User talk:Kestrel2Zero

Hello David

Do have time, please, to have a look at the material that I now have in my Sandbox? I hope that I am respecting the talk page guidelines with this question.

I still need to check and edit the material, but it is pretty much a complete first draft. Any guidance you could offer, specifically with respect to my finishing off the work to a Wikipedia approved standard with a view to asking for it to be uploaded, would be most welcome.

I look forward to hearing from you in due course.

Best regards

Nigel

ref failure

I was trying to fix your second ref (not a journal) but failed to find a proper format. Apologies. David notMD (talk) 12:55, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello David.

Thank you so much. I have used and donated to Wikipedia over a number of years, but preparing and submitting content is completely new for me so your help is most welcome. I have a range of material that I am sorting out for use in citations, so I will come back to this one in due course.

I have everything drafted up as a three page Word Document, but I seem to be developing and editing the material in sandbox at a snail's pace. So there is unlikely to be any rapid progress, but I am determined to complete the task at some stage!

Thanks again for your kind interest and for sharing your time and experience with me.

K2Z Kestrel2Zero (talk) 07:53, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again David

I think I have fixed this problem with a different format and a source of material provided to me by one of the archivists at Cambridge University. Slow progress!

I like your 'notMD'. My Dad weathered endless misunderstandings of how anyone could be a doctor of something other than medicine!

Onward! Thanks again.

Nigel Kestrel2Zero (talk) 08:23, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello David

With my most recent editing and expansion of my sandbox content, I have hit a new problem. When trying to save/publish the updated page, the following error message is displayed: No stashed content found for 1229701898/cf8eb461-2d45-11ef-a551-ad893da6c86a

Are you able to help me with this, please?

Nigel Kestrel2Zero (talk) 13:43, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

See Help:Referencing for beginners on how to format references. David notMD (talk) 16:51, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, David. I will work on this.

Nigel Kestrel2Zero (talk) 09:56, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Clean-up

I removed all the bolding, bigs, smalls, other formatting errors, and deleted content not appropriate. I put a submit template at the top. When you believe the draft is ready, submit it. There is always a backlog of drafts at AfC and the system is not a queue, so it can be days, weeks, or sadly, months, before a review responds. If Declined, the reviewer will give reasons. Address those and resubmit. Expect a different reviewer, who may have different objections. David notMD (talk) 12:15, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi David - This is massively helpful. Thank you so much for such a. prompt reply and for explaining the process. I will work through everything and get back to you.

Best regards

Nigel

PS What is AfC, please? Kestrel2Zero (talk) 08:03, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again David - I have now reviewed the changes that you have made. I did a clean up on the text and a couple of citations and links and tried to leave your edits untouched. Thank you again so much for your inout and guidance with this task.

I am submitting the draft today (October 31, 2024) and I have taken good note of your comments with respect to timeline and rejections. As and when declined, I plan to do as you recommend and address the reasons given and resubmit. Kestrel2Zero (talk) 08:07, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Norman Frederick Astbury (October 31)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Johannes Maximilian was:

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Seems like a notable subject but the draft puts way too much emphasis on promoting the subject; this needs fixing. Also have a look at the infobox – it is a jpeg file! Please fix. --Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 16:01, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good morning, Johannes

Thank you so much for taking the time to review my submission. I value your comments tremendously and I am working my way through them!

Initially I plan to follow the link that you have given me under 'Where to get help" and go through the submission section by section. I hope this seems a sensible approach.

Please may I apologise of the info box being a jpeg: my fault entirely. Is there a recommended template that I can use please?

I look forward to hearing from you further as and when convenient for you.

Finally thank you so much for such a prompt response to my submission. I was concerned about losing momentum during a long wait and you have completely solved that for me.

Best regards

Nigel Kestrel2Zero (talk) 08:05, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Norman Frederick Astbury and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 16:01, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Johannes

As indicated in my earlier message, I am endeavouring to edit my submission and to develop the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article that you mention in your response and to avoid 'puffery' promoting the subject. My first step has been to take the words 'and success' out of the first paragraph. Please can you let me know if I am on the right track.

I am also concerned to be using the citations in the correct and approved manner. Please could you highlight how I can improve this aspect of my draft?

I look forward to hearing from you further when convenient. I will then proceed to work on the remainer of the draft.

Many thanks

Best regards

Nigel

EDITED FIRST PARAGRAPH WITH WORDS 'AND SUCCESS' REMOVED

Norman Frederick Astbury CBE, MA, ScD, CEng, FIEE, CPhys, FInstP, HonFICeram, FRSA (December 1, 1908 – October 28, 1987) was a British physicist with wide ranging experience in industry, academia, the war effort, and scientific research. A double first in Natural Sciences from St John's College, Cambridge.^[1]^[2] launched his career in 1929 with an appointment at the National Physical Laboratory (United Kingdom)^[3] in Teddington followed by a lifetime of professional positions both at home and abroad culminating with the Directorship of the British Ceramic Research Association ^[4], later, Lucideon (1960 – 1973). Kestrel2Zero (talk) 08:59, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Kestrel2Zero! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 16:01, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

^ Nature Publishing Group 184 December 1959
^ Cambridge University UA Graduati 12/9
^ NPL Annual Report and Accounts 1929 - 1939
^ Royal Society of Arts Journal 1987 Page 65

[1] Nature Publishing Group 184 December 1959

[2] Cambridge University UA Graduati 12/9

[3] NPL Annual Report and Accounts 1929 - 1939

[:0-4] Royal Society of Arts Journal 1987 Page 65

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