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Tadeusz Kościuszko

The Polish nationalists again keep on deleting the Belarusian categories and references in the Tadeusz Kościuszko page. Free Belarus (talk) 19:10, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

I'll try to help, but have a problem with free time... Anyway thanks for your contribution. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 14:39, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

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Edit warring at Lithuanian language (disambiguation)

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The complete report of this case is at WP:AN3#User: Kazimier Lachnovič reported by User:M.K (Result: 72h). This appears to be a national dispute in Eastern Europe. As such it falls under WP:DIGWUREN#Discretionary sanctions, which I recommend you take a look at. The block may be lifted if you will agree to follow our policies. From your record so far, you seem to be a full-time edit warrior. Be aware that Wikipedia is not a battleground. If you can't patiently work with others to negotiate changes to articles, you may be blocked for a longer time. EdJohnston (talk) 14:46, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Ok. But I ask to block User:Daisy Cutter 2, which began this edit war, and protect the page Lithuanian language (disambiguation) from the obvious vandalism. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 19:12, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for acting upon my suggestion and removing this inflammatory remark [1] from your user page. There is a lot of more important issues to deal with concerning Belarus and the achievements of the Belarusian people and their history. Happy editing and regards. Dr. Dan (talk) 22:11, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm having few time now. I'll be more free in July, then we can continue the discussion. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 17:32, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Reliability of sources

Vitaju suajčynnik, looks like you are very good at determining the validity of articles and other sources. I need help in determining reliability of these articles related to Napoleon Orda: http://yuzle.com/master/878.html and http://charter97.org/ru/news/2010/2/11/26287/ Ales Hurko (talk) 23:18, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Maje vitańni! Kali nia suprać, dla lepšaha razumieńnia piarejdu na biełaruskuju. Aŭtarytetnaść krynicaŭ u pieršuju čarhu vymiarajecca dvuma čyńnikami: aŭtarstvam i miescam publikacyi. Prykładam, kali niadaŭna niejki ananim sprabavaŭ vydalić z artykuła Belarusians etnahrafičnuju mapu biełarusaŭ ź miežami, vyznačanymi J. Karskim (doktaram filalohii, akademikam Pieciarburskaj i Českaj akademijaŭ navuk) i M. Doŭnar-Zapolskim (doktaram histaryčnych navuk, prafesaram) + jakaja da taho ž była apublikavanaja ŭ encyklapedyčnym vydańni Biełaruskaj akademii navuk, to jahonyja dziejańni inakš jak vandalizmam nazvać prosta nielha. Što ža datyčycca pryviedzienych spasyłak, to na žal, jany nie vyhladajuć aŭtarytetnymi pavodle kryteryjaŭ Vikipedyi, bo aŭtary nie źjaŭlajucca vyznanymi admysłoŭcami ŭ temie (t.b. nia majuć navukovych stupieniaŭ) + miescy publikacyi — taksama nienavukovyja... A ŭvohule, dzjakuj za ŭniosak! Kali štości nie zrazumieła — achvotna adkažu-patłumaču. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 20:45, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Dziakuj za infarmacyju, zaraz budu viedać heta. Ales Hurko (talk) 23:34, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Moderate your edit summaries

Such edit summaries as these [2][3] are hardly in line with basic WP policies. Let me remind you, that you are already informed about WP:DIGWUREN#Discretionary sanctions. Therefore moderate your comments in the future. Thanks, M.K. (talk) 20:30, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

If I see a double standard here and lietuvos chauvinism, I am not going to keep silent about it. This concerns you too. Thanks =) --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 18:23, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Dear Wikipedia editor, would please in the future abstain from edit summaries like this particular one [vandalism] and [like this]. It was neither chauvinistic nor vandalism. The name was and still is is referenced further in the article, and was stable version for more than two years. Hence, the baseless accusations on WP:VANDAL is on you, per existing policy. Meanwhile I do suggest you to familiarize with WP:VANDAL policy and also with WP:FIVE, and also with the sources presented in the article. Also it would be helpful if you'd evaluate what do you mean by writing lietuvos, and in the lower case. Thank you in advance.--Lokyz (talk) 20:38, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

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Barkeep49 (talk) 17:36, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Miadzieł Stary. Мядзел Стары (XVIII).jpg

Hello, I am a researcher working on a project about the relics of St. Justinian now in Mosar, Belarus (previously Myadzel). I have some questions about this photo of a print illustration of St. Justinian that you posted on the Myadzel page. I am interested in the original 18th-century image.

• What is the historical source of the illustration (book or devotional hymn)?
• Who is the author or artist and what is the date of publication?
• What is the current location (archive, museum or library) of this published source?
• Do you have a contact (for example email address) for a curator or scholar that you may share with me, whom I can contact about getting access to study this source?

I would be happy with any answers here on Wikipedia or to my e-mail rno@natmus.dk. Thank you for your consideration, Ruth NOYES, PhD --Rsargentnoyes (talk) 23:40, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello. I've provided all the information I know about this image in the file description. It was published in Hoppen J. Staromiadziolski kościół i jego fundator // Słowo. Nr. 320 (5244), 20.11.1938. S. 5.. You can try to contact Kastuś Šytal, who posted the original version of this illustration on his facebook. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 09:54, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Thank you for your reply. Thanks to the reference you had provided, I was indeed already able to find the Hoppen article, and I was interested in the original. I will try following up directly about this with Kastuś Šytal as you suggest. As I am not currently using Facebook, could you possibly share an email contact for him? Thank you, Ruth — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rsargentnoyes (talk • contribs) 10:31, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

I contacted to Kastuś Šytal. Unfortunately, he speaks only Belarusian and Polish. Can you speak Polish? Because I'm not sure that it will be a good idea to communicate via google translate. Anyway, I sent to him translation of your questions. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 15:01, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you so much for reaching out to Dr. Šytal about this and for sending him the translation of my questions. Unfortunately, I have neither Polish nor Belarusian (French, Italian, some German, a little Lithuanian, Latvian, and Estonian). I do have a friend and colleague in Minsk from department of history at Belarusian State University and I can ask them to translate - maybe this is an option. So if you have given my questions already to Šytal and he can reply to my email (above), I am certain I can manage to communicate with him. I am planning a research trip to Belarus hopefully in August/September and I want to examine the original source for that historical image. By the way, because I see you are interested in Roman Catholicism and in the history of GDL as well as Belarus, you may find it interesting to know, that my research (together with Belarusian colleagues) has revealed that the relic of St. Justinian (a very specific type of relic-sculpture called corpisanti which are only very recently investigated systematically by scholars) represents the oldest example of this type of relic that is known to survive in the world today. I am working to publish something about this history in Belarusian Historical Journal. For this reason I am very interested in relevant historical sources like the image. I hope that we can work out some communication with Šytal about this and I am very grateful for your assistance in this matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rsargentnoyes (talk • contribs) 17:23, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Sorry for delay. I sent to Kastuś Šytal the information about your research. He answered that he needed some time to find all necessary information. I wrote to him that he could contact you directly via email (because you have some friend to translate from Belarusian) or through me. The results of your research are really interesting. Due to the dramatic history of Belarus, there are not many valuable relics or historical artifacts. So this discovery is of great importance. I hope you will soon get all necessary information about the image and publish your results in Belarusian Historical Journal. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 20:06, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

No problem - now I am delayed. Thank you very much for acting as middleman to negotiate my question with Kastuś Šytal. If he replies to my email I am confident we can reach an understanding. You're absolutely right that Belarusian history has not been kind to cultural heritage (like elsewhere in the region), and thus it is very lucky that St. Justinian relics survive still today. Corpisanti relic-sculptures were made with bones from ancient Roman catacombs excavated by Vatican, then assembled in special Roman workshops into life-size 3-D sculptures. As many as 30,000 corpisanti were made for export from Rome, but today these are unique and rare sacral cultural heritage and only about 200 survive worldwide. Similar relics of the corpisanti type were also once in Opsa in Belarus and Varaklani and Kraslava (Latvia), as well as examples in Lithuania (esp. Vilnius). These are all now destroyed. One example remains in Lithuania in Valkininkai, a small village near Vilnius. This corpisanti relic of St. Bonifacus is now in Vilnius museum laboratory for analysis. It dates to c. 1775, so it is still not so old as Belarusian example, from c. 1754. Until now, Italian researchers have thought that earliest corpisanti relics date from 1782. But Belarus proves this theory very wrong by some decades - so indeed you are correct, this discovery is of great importance. I have colleague now in Rome who tries to find some documents in the Vatican Secret Archives about the history of St. Justinian relics. Hopefully something will come to light and we can add to publication. In addition to publication in Belarusian research journal, a scholarly conference in planned, and later international publication in English-language global academic journals and books. I will be certain to mention thanks to yourself and to Kastuś Šytal in future publications on this subject because your assistance has been very valuable. An update: I have found a Polish article with an illustration of the same image of St. Justinian. It cites the source as Lithuanian Art Museum. So I will contact Lithuanian colleagues to ask about this. However, I am still interested to know, what is the source for Kastuś Šytal, maybe it is different source, for example a collection in Belarus. I have a reply from Kastuś Šytal with information that will be very helpful to my research. Thank you again for your assistance!

I also received more detailed answer for you from Kastuś Šytal (translated from Belarusian):

1. Engraving of St. Justin was published, most likely, as an illustration in a separate edition. It was published in Pomniki rytownictwa krajowego. Oddział 1, Odciski z blach mniejszych, znajdujących się w bibliotece łohojskiej Konstantego hrabi Tyszkiewicza: https://polona.pl/item/pomniki-rytownictwa-krajowego-oddzial-1-odciski-z-blach-mniejszych-znajdujacych-sie-w,Mjc2OTA5/144/#info:metadata

2. Tyszkiewicz's library was kept in Łahojsk, but in 1856 it, or most of it, was transferred to the Vilnia Museum of Antiquities. After the uprising of 1863, the Vilnia Museum of Antiquities was liquidated, and most of its collections were separated and placed in the museum collections of Moscow, Krakow and Warsaw. The fate of the collection of engravings is unknown to me, but perhaps someone of the specialized researchers studied it and can say something specific.

(translator's remark) The third answer is about publishing in Słowo, that you already know. Kastuś Šytal also would like to know if you need information about honoring St. Justin in Miadzieł and Mosar and the holidays that took place there. Perhaps he could find something in the old periodicals, at least in the Catholic newspaper Biełarus, published in Vilnia in 1913-1915, where was correspondence from a local man describing a festival that gathered up to 10,000 believers.

--Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 11:07, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

This is good information about Tyszkiewicz's library collection. I think possibly the Justin image made its way into Vilnia Art Gallery collection. I hope my colleagues there will find this. However the additional information from Kastuś Šytal is quite useful. I have some research notes (also in Belarusian) about the relics, which I sent by email to Kastuś Šytal. However, I do not know the Catholic newspaper Biełarus, published in Vilnia in 1913-1915, or the description of the festival. This would indeed be very good to have for research.

Kastuś Šytal sent an article from Biełarus newspaper about the festival to your email. If you need to clarify any details you can do it here. I can also help with the full translation of the article, but I don't do historical translations professionally, so if you need exact scientific translation, maybe it will be not a very good idea. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 18:31, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

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I can't see good faith in attempts to humiliate Belarusians and in personal haunting of me. And I believe you had to leave the same message on talk page of the user who started all this. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 08:15, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

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