User talk:Kautilya2018

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April 2018

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. You appear to be repeatedly reverting or undoing other editors' contributions at Indian provincial elections, 1946. Although this may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is known as "edit warring" and is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, as it often creates animosity between editors. Instead of reverting, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.

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Please do not reinstate contentious edits without discussion, and do not write essays in edit summaries. You should open a discussion on the talk page and resolve the issues before making any further edits. Kautilya3 (talk) 11:36, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The editor Kautilya3 believes his edits to be God's own word!

The editor Kautilya3 who keeps on reverting edits that are in the public domain, seems to assume his word as God's own word? Why can't Muslim League, who believed in a separate state for Muslims and fought elections on the same agenda, be listed accordingly? Similarly, what is there to hide about Hindu Mahasabha? Didn't it believe in a "united and self-governing" Indian nation? (Citations included in another wiki page on Akhil Bhartiya Hindu Mahasabha). Why the editor has to influence wiki readers in a certain way with his personal description of Hindu Mahasabha by describing it as an outfit who fought elections on militant Hindu platform without providing any credible Citations to it and suppressing Hindu Mahasabha's own accepted principles of "united and self-governing" Indian nation which was part of its constitution? By suppressing facts, the editor is also going against the information provided on Hindu Mahasabha on another wiki page dedicated to it. The clear aim of this editor though very senior as far as wiki editorship is concerned, is my way or highway. He clearly wants to intimidate new editors with his seniority thereby creating conflicts when there are none! Clearly the senior editor at wiki is himself violating core wiki editing policy of maintain a neutral point of view by adding content without corresponding citation! Kautilya2018 (talk) 12:07, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that your username, "Kautilya2018", may not meet Wikipedia's username policy because it is too similar to Kautilya3. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. As an alternative, you may ask for a change of username by completing this form, or you may simply create a new account for editing. Thank you. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 12:29, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

NeilN, can you share the specific Wiki username policy that prohibits usernames that are too similar to some existing username, as I could not figure it out myself from the wiki username policy page username policy ?

Thanks you NeilN. Would you call the post preceding this one a WP:Personal attack? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 13:19, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Kautilya3: It's the typical "you must be biased!" post we frequently see from new editors. There's less tolerance for that sort of thing in this area, though. Kautilya2018, comment on content, not contributors. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 13:42, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kautilya2018, NeilN and I are still waiting for you to change your user name. Other editors have already complained about getting confused by your user name. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 07:57, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:IMPERSONATOR. The automated program did allow your user name when you registered. But, for human users, the similarity is still confusing. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 08:57, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have already asked NeilN to share with me the specific Wiki username policy that prohibits usernames that are too similar to some existing username. If there is such a specific policy, I will change my username.

Also, if there is such a policy, Kautilya3 should be the first to change his username because wiki already has an almost identical user https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kautilya1 before him. Rules are same for everyone isn't it?

Please sign your posts properly. If you aren't going to change your username voluntarily, I will ask that other editors discuss the matter at WP:RFC/N. You are free to do the same with Kautilya1/Kautilya3 but I suspect you'll be wasting your time given that Kautilya1 has 500+ edits and Kautilya3 has 36,000+. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 12:55, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi NeilN, I would really want to sign my posts properly, however, I'm actually not aware how to do it. It would be great if you can redirect me to a tutorial page related to it as I'm pretty new to doing this stuff on Wiki.

^{talk to me} 02:14, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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April 2018 II

Don't attack other editors and accuse them of "hidden" and "vile" intentions or "bullying", as here:[1][2][3][4] On Wikipedia, we're always supposed to assume good faith of other editors and not assume they have bad intentions. That applies particularly when you do it to an experienced editor who merely disagrees with you about content, and is trying to explain to you about sourcing. Please don't make the editing climate unpleasant here. Bishonen | talk 15:36, 26 April 2018 (UTC).[reply]

I expect a response that is not superficial, is well read and logical. I hope you take a look at what changes I made and did I not provide a citation for it from relevant wiki pages itself. Editors senior or junior should be open and rational. I followed all the rules of wiki with my edits and ended up with them being rolled back by the said editor without him giving a proper explanation of his action. He conveniently ignored my wiki references to push his own version each time. This is unfair, illogical and contrary to the policies of an academic portal that claims itself to be open and free.

By chosing to block multiple times any fair, fact based and well referenced edits and complaining about the other editor being rude does no good to a senior editor. -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kautilya2018 (talk • contribs)

This is your first edit to the 1946 elections page. Can you explain what "rules" you have followed in making it? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 07:54, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

My edit was a deletion of the unsourced adjective 'Militant' Hindu platform. Kautilya3 simply rolled back the deletion stating that it is sourced without providing a source on the page justifying the word 'militant'. Source cannot be the editor himself just for being a senior editor. Also, nowhere in the wiki page dedicated to Akhil Bhartiya Hindu Mahasabha [5], is Hindu Mahasabha desribed as a militant Hindu outfit or a party that fought on militant Hindu platform.

I redid the changes once again in my next version with complete edit summary [6]. However, again Kautilya3 rolled them back disregarding the references from relevant wiki pages itself. It is for Kautilya3 to explain-

Why he added 'militant' describing Hindu Mahasabha.
Where is the source for #1 above.
Why he removed the hyperlink added by me for Muslim league pointing to a wiki page dedicated to it?
Why he removed the description for Muslim League as a party that believed in a separate state for Muslims? -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kautilya2018 (talk • contribs)

This response suffers from WP:CIR problems. The sentence you edited is this:

The Hindu Mahasabha Party, contesting the elections on a militant Hindu platform, was annihilated, losing all eighteen seats they contested.^[1]

References

^ W. W. J. "The Indian Elections – 1946." The World Today, vol. 2, no. 4, 1946, pp. 167–175., JSTOR 40391905.

which clearly has a citation. You have not looked at the citation. If you continue to insist that your edit was proper, I will request that you be blocked from editing Wikipedia. The right thing for you to do is to apologise for your mistake and promise that you will never repeat it, not only here but anywhere on Wikipedia. You are now aware of the ARBIPA sanctions. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 08:42, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hey dude you do not jump the gun too soon. I'll verify from the pages mentioned in the citation first. Also, there is no response from you on 3 and 4 above. -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kautilya2018 (talk • contribs)

No, you are dodging the question. You have claimed "I followed all the rules of wiki with my edits". Those were your words. Yet, you have done this edit apparently three times [7], [8], [9], but you haven't explained what rule has allowed you to do this. Please clear that up first. Then we can go on to other matters. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 18:46, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

April 2018

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Thank you. NeilN ^{talk to me} 14:19, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the crystal clear explanation! Kautilya2018 (talk) 16:08, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[world_today-1] W. W. J. "The Indian Elections – 1946." The World Today, vol. 2, no. 4, 1946, pp. 167–175., JSTOR 40391905.

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