User talk:Katherine Grayden

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Hello, Katherine Grayden, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few links to pages you might find helpful:

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Lina Bertucci article

Hello! Welcome to Wikipedia. I'm keen to see new people learning about Wikipedia in education projects, but there are some problems with your article I need to run through. Links are to guides on these topics.

As it stands, the article's presented as an essay that presents your opinion and is written by you - all verboten on Wikipedia, where articles should be (but often aren't...) presented as an explanation and organisation of what pre-existing sources say about a topic, and are not meant to appear as if they were the work of anyone in particular. For comparison, here's a featured article on art - supposed to be one of the best on Wikipedia: Portrait Diptych of Dürer's Parents. You'll see that many of the opinions in the article are not presented as its own but that of sources. (It seems only fair to link to two big articles on 'art' (ish) topics I've been trying to expand over the last few months - Gill Sans and List of typefaces designed by Frederic Goudy, which are worse cited - the latter especially! - but hopefully going the same way.)
It presents a lot of controversial statements as opinion - this isn't right for Wikipedia, where opinions should be cited to a source. (If you want to write an article like this that does present your opinion, this might make an excellent choice for your college newspaper since you clearly know and care a lot about the artist.)
Some of it sounds promotional, like you're her press agent. (Yeah, I know, the Mona Lisa article says it's beautiful too, but Leonardo da Vinci isn't still trying to sell paintings.
I'm really not convinced that this needs to be a separate article, so should probably move the sourced content into the Lina Bertucci article. I don't normally edit art articles, but in general - you may wish to look at examples - it's possible to fit an artist's life and career in one article. Wikipedia policy opposes having duplicate articles on the same topic, but I can't find the link to that policy right now. WP:SPLITTING is the guide to when to break up an article, and you'll see that this isn't anywhere near as long as their anticipated scenarios. If you really need to present a career survey, List of photographs by Lina Bertucci might work but this doesn't sound like that kind of article.

Let me know if you have any thoughts or questions about this. Blythwood (talk) 07:35, 17 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, sorry, noticed this when reading through work by your fellow students. What you've written is posted as a regular article page, in the main 'article space' - perhaps you meant to put some of this content on some kind of report page for your class? In any case, Wikipedia avoids duplicate articles on the same topic so I think any retrievable content on here should go on the pre-existing Lina Bertucci page. I'll hold off on tagging it for deletion but if someone else deletes the page before you get to copying the content off it you can always get the article text back from here. Best of luck with your project! Blythwood (talk) 20:19, 17 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Lina Bertucci biography

Hello, Katherine Grayden. I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you started, Lina Bertucci biography, for deletion because I don't think it meets our criteria for inclusion. If you don't want the article deleted:

edit the page
remove the text that looks like this: {{proposed deletion/dated...}}
save the page

Also, be sure to explain why you think the article should be kept in your edit summary or on the article's talk page. If you don't do so, it may be deleted later anyway.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Blythwood (talk) 06:55, 19 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]