User talk:Katerpillarfly

September 2022

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Chris Kirkpatrick. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Continuing the edit war initiated by IP Special:Contributions/67.52.99.2. Binksternet (talk) 01:25, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Chris Kirkpatrick. LilianaUwU ^{(talk / contribs)} 03:12, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am not vandalizing the page - I am adding information with facts. There are many sections that are being completely deleted despite reputable sources stating the facts - check the early life information if you are unsure (rolling stone article page 5 and documentaries about the group)...more sources are being added as well. Katerpillarfly (talk) 03:58, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The problem with your edits

In this series of edits, you added unreferenced descriptions of Kirkpatrick's family and early life. These things cannot belong in the article if they have not appeared in published accounts by reliable sources. For instance, the Daily Record is cited to support a description of how the Kirkpatrick family was musical, but nothing about that appears in the newspaper article. Nothing about being president of the school choir, nothing about the All-Ohio State Fair Youth Choir, nothing about the Ohio State Fair.

The stuff about NSYNC practicing in an Orlando warehouse to build up their stamina has no source. Many other personal observations appear in your changes.

The Chris Kirkpatrick Foundation paragraph should have a citation from a WP:SECONDARY source, for instance, an uninvolved reporter writing about it.

Since you added more unreferenced stuff, you should not have removed the maintenance tag that says "More citations needed". Binksternet (talk) 01:49, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There are sources for those facts in the NSYNC documentaries that are referenced. Please talk with me about what to add instead of taking down the entire thing next time. I am open to improving the references if need be. We should not be going back and forth like this. Katerpillarfly (talk) 03:00, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Chris Kirkpatrick Foundation reference is from his foundation's website, so it is a reputable source. The information about his early childhood is from the documentaries, but I will add some more interview references where he talks about these things himself... he's discussed his early life situation on Mission Man Band, Celebrity Big Brother, in magazines, various interviews, and on his charity's website. I will work on adding more of those references. The information about how NSYNC formed and their training is also from interviews, documentaries (that are referenced), and the official book (https://www.amazon.com/NSYNC-Official-Book-N-Sync/dp/0440416361). Katerpillarfly (talk) 03:05, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not add more information—I explained at my talk that your edits added too much non-encyclopedic detail. Take the advice at my talk and ask for uninvolved opinions at WP:Teahouse. Johnuniq (talk) 09:01, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My edits have changed and include the references to the information. It is all referenced now. Instead of deleting everything (over 7,000 characters) you should check to see the changes that were made and if it has a reference. There are way more referenced details about him than are currently showing and those details deserve to be shown. Katerpillarfly (talk) 15:17, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, your addition of one or more external links to the page Chris Kirkpatrick has been reverted.
Your edit here to Chris Kirkpatrick was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove links in references which are discouraged per our reliable sources guideline (see also this list of frequently-discussed sources). The reference(s) you added or changed (https://nickelodeon.fandom.com/wiki/Chip_Skylark) is/are on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia.
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I see that your expanded addition with citations was reverted automatically by XLinkBot because one of the citations was a fandom wiki page which fails WP:USERG. You might want to try again without that part.

Please include a page number every time you cite the book NSYNC: The Official Book ISBN 978-0440416364. I want to verify that all the family members are named. The first time you cite that book, list the authors as NSYNC and K.M. Squires. Subsequent cites to the same book can be simplified to <ref>Squires 1998, pp. 131–132</ref> or whatever pages you are looking at.

When you cite a YouTube video, list more about who produced and when. For instance, this video is from VH1's documentary series Driven. On the other hand, when you cite Bobby Bones interviewing Kirkpatrick, add the URL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxbJDxwUXUM

When you are citing the same thing more than once, name it like this: change the <ref> tag into <ref name="A&E bio"> for the first usage, then the next time you add a slash near the end like this: <ref name="A&E bio"/>—and you don't have to add the rest of the citation.

I'm still concerned your desired description of Kirkpatrick goes into too much detail about how poor he was, for instance the dirty laundry stuff. I think it's enough to say he was poor. Binksternet (talk) 17:46, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for all the feedback! I will continue to make improvements on it. I understand the trepidation with the dirty laundry stuff, however, it can be found in the Rolling Stone article (page 5) that is referenced. Katerpillarfly (talk) 18:47, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is supposed to be a summary of main points. When I looked at the VH1 Driven video, the important point I came away with was that Kirkpatrick was underfed as a child because he did not want the shame of stating out loud that he was on the free lunch program, meaning his family was on welfare. He skipped lunch for that reason. I thought that was more important than sleeping on dirty laundry. Binksternet (talk) 22:25, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the point about the laundry was from the rolling stone article though. Katerpillarfly (talk) 01:40, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lots of details exist, coming from lots of sources. We pick and choose what is essential. If two or more sources talk about something then that's an indication we should do so as well. Binksternet (talk) 05:10, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have just reverted the wiki page to what we talked about before with the appropriate sources. I think we already dealt with this a few weeks ago. Katerpillarfly (talk) 06:11, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I took your feedback and improved the page with all the appropriate sources that were necessary weeks ago, but you still continue to come back and delete the entire thing and reduce it to a measly 2 paragraphs that does not even begin to give the full picture of this well-sourced public figure's life. I will continue to check up on this page since you have decided to attack it, but if there are still specific things you think need to be added, you should talk to me here about it instead of vandalizing the page and deleting everything. I am always open to a discussion. Katerpillarfly (talk) 16:22, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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March 2023

Hello, I'm SomeoneIguess. I noticed that you recently removed content from Nick Carter without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks.

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01:38, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did with this edit to Justin Timberlake, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you would like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. Materialscientist (talk) 05:51, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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