User talk:Shubh84

November 2022

Your account has been indefinitely blocked from editing because of the following problems: the account has been used for advertising or promotion, which is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia, and your username indicates that the account represents a business, organisation, group, or web site, which is against the username policy.

You may request a change of username and unblock if you intend to make useful contributions instead of promoting your business or organization. To do this, first search Special:CentralAuth for available usernames that comply with the username policy. Once you have found an acceptable username, post the text {{unblock-spamun|Your proposed new username|Your reason here}} at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with your new username and replace the text "Your reason here" with your reasons to be unblocked. In your reasons, you must:

Disclose any compensation you may receive for your contributions in accordance with the paid-contribution disclosure requirement.
Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the kind of edits for which you were blocked.
Describe in general terms the contributions that you intend to make if you are unblocked.

Appeals: If, after reviewing the guide to appealing blocks, you believe this block was made in error, you may appeal it by adding the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}} at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your reason here" with the reasons you believe the block was an error, and publish the page. Randykitty (talk) 22:57, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This user's request to be unblocked to request a change in username has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without a good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Shubh84 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Requested username:

Shubh84 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Request reason:

Yes, I admit my fault that I didnt read the term & condition for username before creating wikipedia account. Kailashhc1 username absolutely indicates that the account represents a organisation thats true. So hereby i want to change my username to Shubh84 and also declare that I will not repeat any kind of activities that breach wikipedia guidelines or mislead the purpose of Wikipedia.

Decline reason:

Your choice of new username looks okay, but you have not told us your connection to the group of hospitals. You also have not said what edits you will make, if unblocked. PhilKnight (talk) 08:45, 26 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm an employee who work at Kailash Group of Hospitals. If i get unblock then I will create a page for our Hospital in a informative a way not in a promotional way. I understand that Wikipedia is not a platform to promote servives so thats why i decided to completely remove the "Specialities offered by the Hospital" section from Kailash Group of Hospitals wikipedia page. And in the free time, i also want to contribute to other pages in way like: Adding references, related images, check facts and references, cite sources, etc. So I request to please unblock my account I done mistakes in the past and i learned my lesson. Kailashhc1 (talk) 09:09, 26 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You will not be unblocked to write about the group of hospitals. If that is your only goal, then this is the end of the line. If you want to edit other subject areas outside your conflict of interest then tell us what they are in your next unblock request. PhilKnight (talk) 20:05, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please try to understand, creating company page is not my end goal. I was doing just doing what other had done.

Ref:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Hospitals

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortis_Healthcare

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narayana_Health

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pristyn_Care

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Healthcare

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metro_Hospital

Again, I admit I have done mistakes in the past and i learned my lesson and I'll never do such kind of mistake in future. OK lets do one thing, I will not create any page until I earn admin trust. Meanwhile, I will try to edit in the subjects like Medicine and health, Entertainment, Sports, Earth and environment, Society & Music. So I request to please unblock my account. Kailashhc1 (talk) 05:09, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You need to create another unblock request using the {{unblock}} template as you did before. PhilKnight (talk) 16:48, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kailashhc1 (talk) 04:49, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This user's request to be unblocked to request a change in username has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Shubh84 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Requested username:

Shubh84 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Request reason:

Yes, I admit my fault that I didnt read the term & condition for username before creating wikipedia account. Kailashhc1 username absolutely indicates that the account represents a organisation thats true. So hereby i want to change my username to Shubh84 and also declare that I will not repeat any kind of activities that breach wikipedia guidelines or mislead the purpose of Wikipedia. Kailashhc1 (talk) 09:14, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Accept reason:

I have renamed your account and will remove the block. Please do as agreed. 331dot (talk) 11:51, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please understand that companies typically are not the ones creating and maintaining articles(not "pages") about their companies- most are typically written by independent editors wholly unconnected with the topic. This is not a place for companies to tell the world about themselves(that's what social media is for). Wikipedia is not for merely providing information, that is considered promotional here, you don't have to be soliciting or selling something. Wikipedia articles summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a topic, showing how it meets Wikipedia's speial definition of notability.

You have said above you wouldn't create another article without trust; you will need to make a paid editing disclosure as you are employed by the hospital(you don't need specific payments for edits). Depending on the nature of your work at the hospital, editing about medicine and health may be challenging due to the conflict of interest; please review that policy. (editing about medical topics has its own, stricter rules) Would you specifically agree to not edit about your hospital? This would not be permanent, but you will need to spend much time making edits in other areas to demonstrate your knowledge and understanding of relevant Wikipedia guideliness before being permitted to do so. 331dot (talk) 10:07, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

OK, After unblock, I will spend much time making edits in other areas to demonstrate my knowledge and understanding of relevant Wikipedia guidelines. Kailashhc1 (talk) 10:22, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Randykitty, I'm interested in any thoughts you have before making a decision here. 331dot (talk) 10:36, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for pinging me. If they recognize that their edits were promotional and that WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS is not a valid reason to add more promotional crap, then I have no problem with them getting renamed and unblocked. --Randykitty (talk) 10:55, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kailashhc1, how about that? Please understand that this is a volunteer project where people do what they can, when they can, and as such it is possible for inappropriate content to get by us- and that's not a reason to add more inappropriate content. 331dot (talk) 10:59, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi 331dot,

I already told you that I'll not add any inappropriate content. I understood & also experienced the impact that would happen to my account if I do something wrong. So from now on, if I get unblock, I will spend time on making edits in other areas by following strictly Wikipedia guidelines. Thanks! Kailashhc1 (talk) 11:10, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I will remove the block if you

agree to make the paid editing disclosure
specifically agree to refrain from editing about your hospital for the time being(you kinda allude to this above but don't specifically state it, I just want to be clear)
agree to edit based on what independent reliable sources say about a topic, not what it says about itself 331dot (talk) 11:17, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
1. agree to make the paid editing disclosure - OK, I agree
2. specifically agree to refrain from editing about your hospital for the time being(you kinda allude to this above but don't specifically state it, I just want to be clear) - I'll not edit hospital page until I earn admin trust
3. agree to edit based on what independent reliable sources say about a topic, not what it says about itself - OK, I agree
Kailashhc1 (talk) 11:39, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for unblocking me. Shubh84 (talk) 12:09, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @331dot & @Randykitty,

Do I have the permission to creating page for Kailash Hospital??

I am writing to request the creation of a Wikipedia page for Kailash Hospital. Kailash Hospital is a leading healthcare provider in India, offering high-quality medical services to patients from all walks of life.

Kailash Hospital has a rich history and has been serving the community for over three decades. It is equipped with state-of-the-art medical technology and staffed by highly qualified medical professionals. The hospital is dedicated to providing the highest standard of medical care to all its patients and is committed to improving health and well-being through its many programs and services.

I believe that Kailash Hospital's contributions to the healthcare sector and its impact on the local community make it deserving of a Wikipedia page. I am confident that a Wikipedia page will help raise awareness of the hospital's work and help others learn more about the quality healthcare services it provides.

I would be happy to provide any additional information or support required to create a Wikipedia page for Kailash Hospital. Please let me know what the next steps are and what information you need from me. I look forward to hearing back from you.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Best regards, Shubh84 (talk) 05:26, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I would first say that we don't have "pages", we have articles. Note that "raising awareness of the hospital's work" is a promotional purpose- Wikipedia has no interest in doing that. If you just want to tell the world about the good work of the hospital, you should do that on social media. Your description here of the hospital is also very promotional("high quality medical services"; "leading healthcare provider"; "highly qualified medical professionals", I don't know of any hospital that would say otherwise) and doesn't really convince me that you would be able to write a draft article as Wikipedia requires. I also see that you haven't yet made the formal paid editing disclosure.

I have examined your edits; most of them are very minor. Usually in cases like this we want to see a more extensive history than two months and thirty edits. My personal opinion is that you aren't yet ready to write a draft about your hospital and that doing so would breach your agreement above. 331dot (talk) 09:38, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah its seems too promotional after reading it. My purpose is to inform the world about this hospital (without any promotional intent), similar to other nearby hospitals such as Apollo, Fortis, Narayana, Pristyn, Max, and Metro, Ref:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Hospitals

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortis_Healthcare

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narayana_Health

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pristyn_Care

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Healthcare

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metro_Hospital

For this, I need your approval whether I'm ready to create an draft article or not, which I got the answer. Its OK, I will continue to contribute more to this community as much as possible and never breach the agreement. Shubh84 (talk) 10:42, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please read other stuff exists as to why what other articles do is not relevant. It could be that those other articles are also inappropriate and simply not addressed yet. As this is a volunteer project where people do what they can when they can, it is possible for inappropriate articles to get by us. This does not mean that more should be permitted.

You need to understand that "providing information" is promotional. You don't have to be soliciting or selling something, which is what many in your position think. Wikipedia is not for merely providing information, it is for summarizing independent reliable sources. We don't want to know what an organization says about itself, only what others completely unconnected with the organization choose on their own to say about it(and not based on materials from the organization).

If you want to link to another Wikipedia article, we don't need the whole url, simply place the article title in double brackets; [[Joe Biden]] appears as Joe Biden. 331dot (talk) 10:50, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Shubh84, in accordance with the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use, discloses that they have been paid by name of employer on behalf of Kailash Group of Hospitals for their contributions to Wikipedia.

Shubh84 (talk) 06:54, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Do I successfully made the formal paid editing disclosure? Shubh84 (talk) 06:55, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you may just copy and paste it to your user page(User:Shubh84). 331dot (talk) 07:02, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I just did what you said. Now Do I successfully made the formal paid editing disclosure? Kindly Confirm. Shubh84 (talk) 07:17, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. 331dot (talk) 07:21, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia and copyright

Hello Shubh84! Your additions to Indian Ethos in Management have been removed in whole or in part, as they appear to have added copyrighted content without evidence that the source material is in the public domain or has been released by its owner or legal agent under a suitably-free and compatible copyright license. (To request such a release, see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission.) While we appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from sources to avoid copyright and plagiarism issues.

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Kailash Group of Hospitals (May 29)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DreamRimmer was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
reliable
secondary
strictly independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Almost all the sections are unsourced; you have not backed up your statements with sources. For example, you wrote that with over 2000 beds, Kailash Group of Hospitals is one of the largest healthcare providers in the region. Also, it is inappropriate in this circumstance since it is phrased like a promotion.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Kailash Group of Hospitals and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

DreamRimmer (talk) 16:26, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Shubh84! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! DreamRimmer (talk) 16:26, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Kailash Group of Hospitals

Hello, Shubh84. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Kailash Group of Hospitals, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 07:06, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Kailash Group of Hospitals

Hello, Shubh84. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Kailash Group of Hospitals".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:08, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hello, Shubh84. Thank you for your work on Kailash Group of Hospitals. Timothytyy, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

Thanks for the article! Can you introduce some links to the page? Thanks!

To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with {{Re|Timothytyy}}. Please remember to sign your reply with ~~~~. (Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

Timothytyy (talk) 12:37, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]