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16:09, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Michael G. Sullivan (March 12)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Robert McClenon was:

Thank you for your submission, but the subject of this article already exists in Wikipedia. You can find it and improve it at Michael G. Sullivan instead.

The comment the reviewer left was:

There is a new article on Michael G. Sullivan. This draft and the article should be compared against each other so that information from both of them can be folded into the article. This draft should remain in place until all of its information is copied into the article.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Robert McClenon (talk) 02:17, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Michael G. Sullivan (April 9)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Robert McClenon were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines for academics). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

This draft has a breezy informal tone that is not encyclopedic.

Personal communication is not a reliable source.

This draft, as written, does not appear to indicate that one of the biographical notability criteria is satisfied. If one of the criteria is satisfied, please revise this draft appropriately, with a reliable source, if necessary stating on the talk page or in AFC comments which criterion is met, and resubmit. It is the responsibility of the submitter to show that a subject satisfies a notability criterion.

You may ask for advice about the biographical notability criteria at the Teahouse.

In particular, see and refer to WP:NACADEMIC for notability, which is the guideline that the subject should be evaluated against.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Robert McClenon (talk) 22:04, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Michael G. Sullivan (April 10)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Sulfurboy was:

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Michael G. Sullivan and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Michael G. Sullivan, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{Db-g7}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
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Sulfurboy (talk) 01:51, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Michael G. Sullivan (April 10)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Sulfurboy was:

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

The comment the reviewer left was:

No, you need to read our policies on writing a formal article. This still reads like some vanity biography piece. You also need to correct the formatting of the article .WP:MOS

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Michael G. Sullivan, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{Db-g7}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
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Sulfurboy (talk) 02:55, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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K.L.Neigel (talk) 03:27, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Can you please let me know what specific sentences you do not like so I can fix them? Thankyou.

Your submission at Articles for creation: Michael G. Sullivan (April 10)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Robert McClenon were:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines for academics). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Does the author of this draft have any sort of financial or other connection with the subject of this draft? Please read the conflict of interest policy and the paid editing policy and make any required declarations.

You may ask for advice about conflict of interest at the Teahouse.

If this draft is resubmitted without addressing the question about conflict of interest, it may be Rejected or nominated for deletion.

This page appears to have been written to praise its subject rather than to describe the subject neutrally. Wikipedia is written from a neutral point of view.

If this draft is resubmitted without being reworked, it may be nominated for deletion. You may ask for advice about the tone of articles at the Teahouse.

This draft has been repeatedly resubmitted with insufficient improvements. These repeated resubmissions are becoming tendentious and may result in nomination for deletion of the draft or in a topic-ban being requested against the author. Discuss the necessary changes and improvements to the draft before resubmitting, rather than just resubmitting. The recommended forum for discussion is at the Teahouse, although a WikiProject would also be appropriate. Do not resubmit without answering the question about conflict of interest.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Michael G. Sullivan and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Michael G. Sullivan, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{Db-g7}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
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Robert McClenon (talk) 16:21, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Let's start over

Okay, so, things got screwed up with Woerich. Sorry about that mess.

The draft you have made is not ready to be an article.

And the article you submitted as an attempted workaround is not ready either.

This is going to stay as a draft until either it is ready - as decided by other editors who actually understand what they are doing - or until it is deleted (which will happen either when you request it, or leave it untouched for more than 6 months; that said, such deleted pages can be restored upon request).

What you have submitted needs a lot of work. If we were to leave this available as an article, it would have the potential to mislead people into thinking that something this far below standard is acceptable.

I apologize for the inconvenience. DS (talk) 19:03, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi User:DragonflySixtyseven I do not understand why Woerich copied my draft and made it into an article. I had no knowledge this occurred, or why he would do this.

This article is very similar to other articles of those in similar fisheries roles (i.e. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_J._Cooke). Would you be able to point out what specific sentences I need to re-write so I can fix them? This biography was done as part of a course for school where we are required to write a wikipedia biography for a leading Canadian conservation scientist. AS part of the biography I mostly used web-sources, but also asked Michael Sullivan via his government email to answer a few questions for information I was unable to find online. I chose to do a biography on him as he is a leading Alberta fishing conservation scientist. Thank you for your help.

AfC notification: Draft:Michael G. Sullivan has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Michael G. Sullivan. Thanks! Robert McClenon (talk) 01:34, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Michael G. Sullivan has been accepted

Michael G. Sullivan, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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The article has been assessed as C-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. This is a great rating for a new article, and places it among the top 21% of accepted submissions — kudos to you! You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

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Thanks again, and happy editing!

DGG ( talk ) 08:59, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]