User talk:Juan.Alvarez6

May 2023

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. Thank you. Frukko (talk) 15:53, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You are the one deleting referenced modifications of other users, please stop. Juan.Alvarez6 (talk) 16:29, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Stop vandalizing Wikipedia with useless sources. As already stated on your other profile 's talk page agnolos traced back to agnolotti and have nothing to do with them, apart from being influenced by the piedmont cuisine. If you keep on vandalizing Wikipedia you will be reported Frukko (talk) 16:34, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have checked the reference provided and it is totally valid. Juan.Alvarez6 (talk) 16:38, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There are already plenty sources, there's no need to redundant sources which do not add anything else to the article. I suggest you too create a new article named after agnolos, which has nothing to do with agnolotti Frukko (talk) 16:41, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It adds that the dish is also present in Savoie. Agnolos and agnolotti are the same according to the recipe, the two regions are connected so it is not strange to find the recipe in both sides of the border. Juan.Alvarez6 (talk) 16:49, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also in Argentina they have a dish that is similar to agnolotti but agnolotti is known worldwide to be Italian only. Agnolos may trace back or even be similar to them, but it's another thing. That's why you should create a separate article. Also your source doesn't prove anything Frukko (talk) 16:56, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Argentinia is a recent country created by immigration from Europe. Savoie and Piedmont share a large part of their history and the existence of agnolotti in Savoie is documented. I think the article should also include it, give me a good reason explaining that you constantly delete this information. Juan.Alvarez6 (talk) 17:01, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A good reason is that your source doesn't prove anything. Documented where? Did you find a document that states they are called agnolotti and not agnolos? Frukko (talk) 17:04, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This source 5https://books.google.at/books?id=ihFHAAAAYAAJ&newbks=0&hl=en&redir_esc=y) given by another user talks about the agnolos from Savoie. Juan.Alvarez6 (talk) 17:06, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

i don't see anything apart titles Frukko (talk) 17:08, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

So you did not read it? Read it and you will see. Juan.Alvarez6 (talk) 17:09, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The recipe of agnolos is described in the Maurienne Valley as a pasta filled with lamb meat. Juan.Alvarez6 (talk) 17:10, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, so it has nothing to do with agnolotti which are made with leftovers only - a part a few known exceptions. End of the journey. Please create your own article and do not add redundant sources please Frukko (talk) 17:13, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Do you really think agnolos and agnolotti which are almost the same word, almost the same recipe and come from two connected regions are two different things? Juan.Alvarez6 (talk) 17:17, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think that they might be similar, but agnolotti is agnolotti. Agnolos is similar to them, but not the same. That's why it needs to create a new article about those, but it's incorrect to say they are the same. Otherwise we can say parmesan is the same of parmigiano or baguette is Italian because i buy them daily Frukko (talk) 17:21, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

They are not similar but they are a variation with the same name, that is why it should be in the same article. Juan.Alvarez6 (talk) 17:25, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am sure you would like to portray agnolotti like a typical french dish, but sorry it's not. Furthermore agnolotti is an Italian word, agnolos not. The root might be the same, but not the same dish. We do not make pasta folded over with lamb 17:30, 17 May 2023 (UTC) Frukko (talk) 17:30, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Facts are facts, you can not only use your subjectivity. Juan.Alvarez6 (talk) 17:35, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see any facts, apart words and vandalizing from your side. 17:37, 17 May 2023 (UTC) Frukko (talk) 17:37, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Enough references are given. Just read them Juan.Alvarez6 (talk) 17:54, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Agnolotti. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Discuss this on the talk page and get consensus. Quit reverting each other. Julietdeltalima (talk) 18:00, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I am trying to talk but the other user keep deleting the information. What can I do? Juan.Alvarez6 (talk) 18:05, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Address the issue at Talk:Agnolotti before making any more edits to the article itself. Julietdeltalima (talk) 19:31, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I did but the other user is not answering. Juan.Alvarez6 (talk) 19:32, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. The thread is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Juan.Alvarez6 reported by User:Julietdeltalima (Result: ). Thank you. Julietdeltalima (talk) 18:04, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

May 2023

You have been blocked from editing from certain pages (Agnolotti) for a period of 24 hours for edit warring. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text at the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 18:16, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 month for edit warring. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text at the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Widr (talk) 19:49, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you block me and not the user Frukko? I wrote in the talk section of the article but he ignores me and keep reverting everything. Juan.Alvarez6 (talk) 20:01, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Juan.Alvarez6 (talk) 20:28, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your edits on Agnolotti

Please refrain from edit warring over a simple dispute. Talk to the person who you have an issue is and not clutter the page with revisions that go back and fourth. It really is a headache, but the user should of listened to you and you should discuss further. As a token of my extreme, you will no longer be able to edit the article in your state as a casual user without involvement from third parties or commiting acts that violate Wikipedia policy; I will not name them per WP:BEANS. Please consider wisely on what you do in the future and don't make mistakes like this again, it is extremely simple. 102.220.211.136 (talk) 01:31, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]