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Lo muntu

Sorry for taking so long to respond. Most of them are fine but the "intermediate" and "advanced" translations are wrong. "IsiZulu kulungile" is obviously broken isiZulu "isiZulu kulungisa" is plain wrong. I think "ngokulunga" would be better for "intermediate"; I'm not really sure how one would say "correctly" ("advanced") in isiZulu, "elevated/phakamileyo"? ("in an elevated manner", but what's "manner" in isiZulu). I'll search for the isiXhosa ones now, don't be surprised if I start swearing... Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 17:59, 22 April 2006 (UTC)


No the only sub-category to xh is xh-1. The Sesotho boxes do exist - Revolucion put them up 2 months ago but hasn't bothered to tell me. Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 18:24, 22 April 2006 (UTC)


Districts

The 12the amendment to the constitution removed the exclave. The KZ/EC border changed a bit (the exclave as well as Matatiele) as well as the GT/NW (Khutsong) and NC/NW. Although the main media focus was on Khutsong the Matatiele people were also unhappy. Thanks for noticing. --Waynedam 08:44, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

OK - I'll try and get round to updating the provincial maps - should be simple - maybe later this week. --Waynedam 20:21, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

An advanced riddle

"Phakeme" would be a relative, not an adjective (should I explain the difference again?). It should be conjugated with "manner"/"level", but what is the isiZulu word!? Perhaps you could visit the isiZulu Wikipedia and see if anyone there actually speaks the language (good luck!!). I'll see if I can find anyone... Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 16:55, 24 April 2006 (UTC)


Kgomotso would be Setswana (and Thabo too, in this example). The name IS very popular but the verb "thaba" is only used in the Sesotho languages. "Izinga" is obviously plural, but I've never heard it before! 10 million people who speak isiZulu and we're scratching our heads over such a minor issue! The irony that is Wikipedia!


Speaking of which - I'm no longer an st admin! We'll just have to let the Wikipedia translate itself, like it's been doing for the past 2 years... Ditto for the isiZulu Wikipedia; what's up with the Afrikaans on the main page, exactly? Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 19:07, 26 April 2006 (UTC)


Okay, I'm an admin again (once again, no one thought it appropriate to tell me ON MY TALK PAGE). "ezingeni lesiZulu" (concords)? This is ridiculous! Is there not 1 person on the internet who actually SPEAKS the language!? Setswana and Sesotho are a tad less mutually intelligible than the Nguni langs, which is the reason why I don't know what Kgomotso means... Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 21:40, 26 April 2006 (UTC)


Have you played the game Black & White (game)? It begins with a couple watching helplessly as their son drowns. His mother shouts "someone please help us! Anyone! I call out to the Heavens - please help us!". Then the voiceover says "every time someone calls out to the Heavens for help, a new God is born". I wish that was true... Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 21:59, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

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Hey, where are you? Why haven't you removed the tags on "List of Zulu first names"? I'm still feeling a bit stressed, but I'm getting better... Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 15:55, 3 May 2006 (UTC) Yes, from my phone - one of the reasons why I'm still stressed! I'm using Opera Mini, which makes it much easier to use the web (though I have to pay a minimul fee since it needs its own gateway, not VLive!). Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 16:40, 3 May 2006 (UTC)


Seriously, this is bad. I just messed up a good night kiss; now the woman thinks I'm bad (and she has every reason not to think otherwise)! Yup, I need help (or an official, long, Wikibreak)... Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 18:01, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

South African Timeline

Help, they want to vote off the Timeline of South African history from wikipedia. Please vote at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Timeline of South African history. Thank you --Jcw69 20:16, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your vote, the nomination for deletion has been withdrawn. --Jcw69 12:37, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

My VfD vote

Could you perhaps format this and include it in the above VfD? Keep - Wikipedia is not running out of space. The article could do with some improving, but it would serve absolutely no purpose to just delete it. Wikipedia would be better off with MORE articles on Africa (which is severly under-represented due to WP:BIAS), not less. Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 11:28, 6 May 2006 (UTC) Thanks. Of course, you should have changed "less" to "fewer", but... Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 10:25, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

The utterance

I wonder in what context you saw this... "Tau" is "lion", "phapi" is a bad tempered person (so I'm told), "sebata" is a vicious animal, and "lala" is an archaic/idiomatic way of saying "sleep" (verb). So it would be "let the lion sleep/calm down, bad tempered person, let the the vicious beast sleep". Where did you read this? It's very idiomatic. Things are great with me and that girl. She says she wasn't serious, yeah right, but at least it shows that she wants me... Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 10:45, 7 May 2006 (UTC)


Perhaps it's because I said his translation sucked (it did)? No one who speaks the language would use 2 incompatible concords for the same noun... I don't live in Johannesburg (whatever gave you that idea?). I live in Meyerton which is some 20km from Vereeniging along the R59. Things are getting a bit steamy with the woman after 1 month of inertia; I wonder what miracles I would perform if I took an even longer break... Hmm... Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 13:10, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Zulu map

Mail me and I'll send it through. O/w you can just use the template one and paint. --Waynedam 19:15, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Nice. Now you have something worth looking at before the pedantic linguistics info... Am I the only one who thinks that people are too sacred to even touch the article? Try reading through it slowly and correct all those stale (more than 2 years old) spelling and grammatical mistakes. Some of the links could do with a bit of fixing as well... Yeah, I wish I had better connectivity, at least so that I could continue improving this article. Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 19:26, 8 May 2006 (UTC)


Have a look at User:Zyxoas/Sesotho (I think). Comparing the languages? That'll be another excuse for me to be overly detailed! Also, I know almost nothing about Serotse (Lozi), but I might do something like that someday. I can help you with the Nguni languages. Do you think the poem would be a good idea? Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 20:00, 15 May 2006 (UTC)


Some of what I know I know about the phonetics of SiSwati and isiNdebele could be viewed as OR (from watching programmes and news broadcasts - you do know the SABC has 30 minute news broadcasts in all 11 langs?). I do remember reading much of the info in various places but I can't remember where (and I would be synthesising knowledge), BUT WHO CARES!? Wachawananou? Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 08:52, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Nguni

Actually, everything except Joziboy's latest section (Nguni). I would've done this myself but I now want to preserve that section (so I can quickly refer to it): Please create User talk:Zyxoas/Archives and User talk:Zyxoas/Archives/Archive1 then move the page there but copy the last section back. User:Zyxoas 15:31, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Just so you don't feel left out

Joziboy is awarded this Africa Award for exemplary work on Africa-related articles. Presented by JackyR from the Africa-related regional notice board

For your incredible work on so many African language articles. JackyR 19:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Nguni

What I wanted to say was where did you get that stuff about L and N? Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 06:52, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Please vote

Hi, if you have not yet done so, we could sure use your input on Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Dewet. Thanks! Elf-friend 10:26, 19 May 2006

L vs N

Okay, it is quite common for L to become N (and vv). The Kintu 2nd person plural pronoun is "ni-" ("nina") but it was "le-" in old Sesotho and is now "lo-" ("lona", still "lena" in Setswana). Those vowels are high, btw ("lick" and "look"). I think you mis-understood my point about monosyllabic words - "mna" is still 2 syllables. "umntu" is 3... About this m in isiXhosa:

(OR ALERT) IsiXhosa is unique (among many other reasons) in this weird syllabic m. Kintu langs have pre-nasalised consonants (an exception being the Sesotho langs) and only have syll. nasals for disyllabic class 9 nouns (Kiswahili dog is "m-bwa", this is the same word as "n-tja" and "i-nja"). Xh has a weird syllabic m which never undergoes nasal permutation ("wena nam" "lumka" "abantwana bam" "amacumcum"). The Nguni "mi" pronoun has become "m".

So I guess that's the reason why Xh is more willing to elide the u in "umu-". A better Sesotho example contrasting the concords? I think I'll do that later... I was very pick last week, and I still have mild stress and depression, so I haven't been feeling as energetic as usual. Have you seen Talk:Nguni? We need a separate Nguni languages. Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 17:59, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Malaysia? Wouldn't that be winter, now? Pren. cons. have a homogeneous non-syllabic nasal before another cons. So in isiZulu they are nt nd nhl ndl ns (Xh nts) ng nk mb mp mf mv nz (Swa ndz). These are pronounced as one sound, so it's "u-mu-ntu", not "u-mun-tu" etc. In the Sesotho langs they became single cons (indaba - taba, umuntu - motho, intaba - thaba, ukulamba - ho lapa, amandla - maatla, inyanga - ngaka). Have fun in Malaysia, then! Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 21:45, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I forgot the nasal k-accompaniment clicks (nkq nkc nkx) but, as far as I know, these are only standard in isiXhosa (Xh "ukunkqonkqotha" - Z "ukungqongqotha") but most people who speak isiZulu would say it in the first way. Sesotho has a few unique sounds. nq can be pronounced normaly as a nasalised click or as a syll. n followed by a radical click (se-n-qa-nqa-ne frog). It even has a syll. n followed by an aspirated click (se-qhe-n-qha an excessively muscular person), this occurs nowhere else. Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 08:09, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

The South African Bush Telegraph

Hi Joziboy, the Africa Award has been proposed as an official award, we could sure use your input at the proposal page - Thank you! --Jcw69 20:20, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Me again, the South African Bush Telegraph has a page of its own. If you interested please go to ... Wikipedia:WikiProject South Africa/Bush Telegraph. Regards, --Jcw69 15:22, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

You're back!

Kewl! "Maybe I we can finally speak one properly"? The past month has been a tad more exciting than usual. The latest news is this minor wound that goes from under my left eye to my chin after a "striking security guard" randomly struck me with a whip! So THAT'S why they call them "strikers"...? It doesn't look too bad and I shouldn't have a major scar (perhaps some darkening for a few weeks). But it's not his fault that he was born during low-tide in a shallow gene pool. I'm considering semi-quiting Wikipedia and just working at perfecting Sesotho; I'm not liking the general vibe I'm getting from editors from Cape Town (which is actually an enclave and not really part of the country). Besides, I really should stop dealing with the small fry and do something vastly significant (first turning Sesotho into a shining example, then advancing in real life - writing those 2 papers, getting that translate.org.za job, beginning work on that new version of Mabille and Dieterlen's dictionary).

This doesn't mean you can't still ask me questions. With whom did you go to Maal-Asia? Was it really 5 weeks (I don't think so)!? Malaysia is that place with the sky-scrapers where they use Chinese, right? Anything interesting happen there (striking bankers, maybe)? Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 09:43, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Os courfe! Malaysia is nothing like Singapore!! No, no translating job, but I've been having a conversation with the organisation's head and I might become a Python programmer, as soon as the guy makes up his mind! I'm thinking of removing my name from that Bush Telegraph - they don't seem to be doing anything significant (after discussing a topic for 2 days they simply abandon it: see Talk:Qamata and Talk:Table Mountain), and it's another example of "small fry"... How is "Clicking with Xhosa" coming along? I love those illustrations! Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 18:23, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

No, I would never read anything with a title like that! One of the weirdest things about (rural) isiXhosa is that crazy accent! It's very different from that of isiZulu, especially that inflection on the last 2 syllables of every word. I never get round to analysing it properly since I can't get past how perculiar it sounds. The idiot: you know that scene from The Matrics 2 where Neo is fighting those agents in a park and they're flying all over the place as he hits them with a metal pole and people walking by get infected and they become agents and they start flooding the park as he's throwing them against the wall and...? It was nothing like that and I don't want to talk about it for now. It was probably not as bad as you're imagining. Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 20:08, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Hope what "gets better"? It wasn't in Meyerton; haven't you heard about that Satawu strike that's been going on for a few weeks? I think it ended 3 days ago. The Wikipedia is not going anywhere, and I'm not really involved in it any longer. It's also another example of "small fry" (for someone so ambitious one has to wonder why I've failed so many times in getting what I want, perhaps if I aimed for more mundane goals...). Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 20:29, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

No, not much of a dark line yet, just a 10cm long thin strip of that pink tissue you find when you pick a scab (my mother suggested I use eye-dropper ointment to dissolve the initial hardening - I guess it was a good idea). As it's thinning it's leaving behind a trail of slightly darker skin which (so far) has the same consistency/height/texture as my normal skin, so no scarring (yet). I've had this darkened skin before (had the back of my hand scratched by a stray cat...), and I know that it goes back to normal after a few weeks (for someone whose skin is light and sensitive it sure does heal well!). No, no more Wikipedia. I had been thinking of writing a relative (part of speech) or relative (grammar) so Kintu articles could link to it (eg the numbers 6-10 in Sesotho are not nouns, verbs, or adjectives) but I don't really feel like it now. Relative clauses are a special form of relative (they also use the relative concords). An article on concords would also be nice. Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 07:31, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

I believe I may have just completely messed up Talk:Nguni. Could you please fix it for me? Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 09:59, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Could you also please implement the changes I suggested to African Traditional Religion (see the talk page)? Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 10:41, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Someone dumped a whole bunch of text today on Basotho seemingly the entire text of the somewhat misinformed Sotho-Tswana (this is also how that article was initially written - copyvio?); could you perhaps revert the change? Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 09:49, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Great work on that article! See, it does help if you actually know a little bit of what you're talking about. I have a few problems with the article, but I'm too tired now (and it's 1 in the morning), so I'll explain later today... Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 23:08, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Izinga

Oh. That's okay, then. Some words are confusing like that. Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 11:28, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, perfect. I'm procrastinating doing my assignments (and now that I finished that paper I no longer have an excuse). I need to send the paper to musicdsp.org and I'll be done with that... Getting a bit agitated with that translate.org guy, but I guess I really should meet him as he's practically been begging me. Why do you ask? And where did you learn Italian? Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 14:44, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

You are watching Talk:Sotho-Tswana, yes? Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 15:12, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

He's thoroughly impressed with my general knowledge of South African linguistics and wants to give me a chance as a programmer. I am in "university" (Unisa), but the paper has nothing to do with that. It's on a very arcane subject "A Highly Generalised Plugin Delay Compensation Solution for Virtual Studio Mixers". In it I solve a problem which software manufacturers have tried to tackle and generally came up with half-baked solutions (which they kept to themselves). I then give examples where I use it on Cubase SX (a very popular software with a half-baked solution) and FL Studio (which has a very versatile mixer system, and no automatic PDC). Why did I write it? Because I could - and no one else had before. Are you moving with your boyfriend, or what? Speaking of boyfriends, that woman neglected to tell me that she had one - so that's over... Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 15:50, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay, try Cubase. Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 15:52, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Not "leaving him hanging", we're just having difficulties meeting. Perhaps you might become an illegal immigrant! I'm really not into relationships @ the moment, so I'm trying not to give you advice since I know it'll be inappropriate, but you weren't planning on being there forever, yes? No one "on the horizon": not many worthy fish in the sea of Meyerton, and I'm planning some very big changes in my life so I'm currently not looking for extra weight. Her loss (no, not conceited - just tired of being short-changed). I love computers and Mathematics, very powerful and predictable. So what are you planning on doing when you return (apart from clicking)? Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 19:45, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

*grin* yeah I didn't think Meyerton sounded like the kind of bustling metropolis that has a wonderful dating scene :) (although it is on google earth now!) What "big changes" are you planning? Where would you work if you worked for translate.org? I suppose you could work from home wherever? I quite enjoyed maths at school too - I just miraculously lost any ability in that field during first year. I couldn't even handle supply and demand graphs in economics!
And yeah, there's not much advice to give. I've said all along, to anyone who'll listen, that I'm moving back when I graduate (I never shut up about how much I love SA, it's pretty much the first impression anyone has of me over here). As for a job when I get back: no idea. I've wanted to be a writer my whole life, but I can never seem to finish a book. Maybe journalism? Joziboy 21:44, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Why are you answering on your own talk page? I could move to Pretoria, but we'll see. I've also lost my Mathematics ability somewhat. I remember when I was in grade 6 trying to teach my English class linear programming for show-and-tell after reading my brother's standard 9 Mathematics textbook. That's the same age where I learned quadratic equations and started playing with "difference formulae". It would have helped if I had more resources - I discovered in 2003 that I had actually discovered a primitive form of Newton-Gregory forward difference formulae. The prime-number investigation I had given up on in grade 11 had been undertaken by a Mathematician centuries earlier and he discovered quadratic reciprocity as a result. Ah well... I'm not Srinivasa Ramanujan or Evariste Galois (which is a good thing, because I would have died a year ago), but Mathematics is still my first love, even though we haven't been seeing eye-to-eye lately, but it seems to be getting better. Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 23:17, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay, try difference operator (it doesn't actually explan the difference formulae, though), and apparently Gauss didn't exactly discover QR, but he was the first to prove it. Sorry for going on and on...Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 23:45, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it's translating, but they develop Open Source software to help them and others. What are "grills"? Not a "whiz" - just have a peculiar way of viewing certain things ("wow!", I hear you exclaim, "I would never have guessed!"), but that's enough about me. When you went to University, what were you planning on doing afterwards? Why economics? Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 14:02, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Open Source Software is much more complicated than that... These young politicians (eg that crazy communist idiot from the ANCYL) don't really impress me. What makes you think that you aren't good enough to be an artiste? Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 17:40, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Could you perhaps have a look at South African English and tell me what you think of that stuff about pidgins? Am I the only one who finds that retarded? Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 18:58, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

If you come up to me and say "Mna thetha isiNgisi" I won't remark "the isiXhosa pidgin spoken by English first language speakers has no concords", I'll instead say "learn to speak the language properly, idiot!". This is obvious original research written by someone who thinks that everyone speaks like their maid. Could you try and do something about it? See what I mean about these clueless people from Cape Town? Also, do I not distinguish between the pronouns? Right. Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 21:25, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Please feel free to evaluate the Libya article which has become a 'Featured Article Candidate' and write you support or opposition on Wikipedia:Featured article candidates. Hopefully Libya will become only the second African country to be featured on Wikipedia. Thanks --User:Jaw101ie 12:30, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

RED HOT PORN!!

Click me? Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 17:24, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

No man, what kind of abstract is that!? Click the linked file (pdc.pdf) but you might have a problem with .pdf's on your computer. Remember: computers are your friend... Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 11:14, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Confused by the equations!? You can't do basic primary school Algebra!? The paper is actually quite simple Mathematically; the difficult part is understanding the mental model I used, and the 2 equations which stem from it, although deriving the Appendix A example was a tad difficult since I had specialise the general model for 5 different track types (that's the most challenging part of this technique).

How have I done? No, just did it because I could. I tried finding some journals but I felt there were none appropriate for this topic or that I really shouldn't be aiming so high (MIT's Computer Music Journal? yeah, right...). Anyway, I'm done with that. Just uploaded a fixed version a few hours ago (how did I get User:Rbj's first name wrong!!! The guy's mildly famous among the DSP community, btw). The silence from my critics at the Flipside FL Studio forum is deafening... Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 10:14, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Feel like getting embroiled in an edit-war ("YAY!")? User:Dwo's only contributions to Sesotho language are to repeatedly make a change he doesn't truly understand. It's not really bad but it's starting to piss me off. Anyway, I'll answer your questions later - my nephew just asked me to borrow him my phone so he could play soccer (2006 Real Football from Gameloft) - I hope you don't mind... Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 19:06, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

The article is understandable, but I can't say for sure. The "une-" concord seems weird, and what is uku"gubha"? See Michigan Institute of Technology. I had an elder brother who died December 2001. Everyone's "homophobic", just ignore it. Several denominations (eg "born agains" and evangelists - the type who preach and pray in English, apparently God is mono-lingual) do think ATR is evil. After all the work I devoted to the article, I resent people simply making arbitrary changes that add nothing to it and taking advantage of my lack of access (and "isiXhosa"?). Sorry for being terse, please ask me if I was unclear. Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 13:04, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Oops! Try Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 13:08, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but I'm still feeling lazy. I'll answer you tomorrow. Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 19:50, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for reverting Sesotho. I don't really know about the "is" concords in isiZulu. Sesotho just uses "ke" (high tone) for the nouns and 3rd persons and uses 4 special concords for the 1st and 2nd persons (low-tone "ke" 1st sing, low "re" 1st plur, low "o" 2nd sing, low "le" 2nd plur. These are the same as the relative concords, Sesotho "ke" comes from Kintu "ngi"). "Ukugubha" sounds fine, but I've never heard it before. There's lots of ATR/Christian synthesis. Eg the ZCC and the Shembe Nazarites (who, like Mormons and Jehova's Witnesses are not/post-Christian). The usual reason for rejection of homosexuality is that it's "anti-African" and a European cultural practice/import. Now, without worrying about understanding it, tell me any obvious style mistakes you see in the "paper" (eg the references). I'm busy "revising" it (actually, I should have spent more time writing it initially) and making mostly superficial changes, and I'd appreciate any criticism. Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 20:35, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I doubt there'd be any ZCC members in the Eastern Cape, its members are mostly from Northern Gauteng and Limpopo. All criticism of the paper is much more than welcome. The o's in "Sesotho" are pronounced as in "look" not "lock", so it'd be "isiSuthu" in isiZulu (with a different tone pattern). Where/when exactly are you "seeing people who aren't there"? Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 12:40, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I've never seen anyone who wasn't there, although I've seen a few people whom I wished were not there. How long ago was this? Anything stressful happening in your life then? Describe the woman? Click Kintu to see why I, corrected you (imagine me saying that like the dead caretaker in The Shining). Stop feeding the troll/doos! Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 18:25, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Feeding Trolls

I see you and User:Zyxoas have the convention of not talking on your own talk pages - doesn't that make conversations with more than one person impossible? Also, how do you follow the thread? Or am I just being narcissistic talking to someone on my own talk page? Anyway, I think you speak more Xhosa than me, I wouldn't even dare attempt an article, or stick xh-1 on my talk page (I see there's xh-0, perhaps that's more appropriate).

I wrote a simple translation tool for use on the Afrikaans wikipedia. The idea was to translate all the common template words from the country templates, cut and paste the English template, and get an Afrikaans version with minimal effort. It helped me rattle off a few countries quickly. Perhaps you'd be interested in something similar for the xh and other wikis? Greenman 21:40, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

It doesn't make talking to more than 1 person difficult, I'm doing it right now! It's not narcissistic; the guy from American Psycho (film) was a narcissist. Joziboy, I wanna tell you my secret now: I see stupid people; arguing like smart people; they don't see their idiocy; they only see what they wanna see; they don't know they're stupid; all the time! Like that guy on Talk:Sesotho language. Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 16:41, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Translation tool

Yes, I'm talking about the infoboxes. I see them as quite a quick way to get a new language wiki to contain all the basic geographical information. I did quite a bit on the Afrikaans wiki. It's quite fun getting involved in a small language wiki, you get to see how things work from scratch.

The translation tool is at [1]. The idea is you take an English language infobox, for example on the Namibia page, cut and paste everything from {{Infobox_Country down to }} and paste it in the textarea. Click translate and as much as possible is translated to Afrikaans, so that only a few of the notes etc need doing. I'm happy to expand the tool if there's any interest in having it in other languages. I have too many ideas for my own good, and too little time, but the tool could be multilingual, and also allow users to contribute/edit the translation terms. Greenman 04:47, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Zulu

Hi, thanks for the enquiry.. I only have a Zulu phrase book.. I see someone else has being trying to introduce the most basic of elements to start articles in Zulu.. I have had difficulty getting connected for some time so I have not done anything new recently.. Gregorydavid 11:43, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

A Highly Generalised Automatic Plugin Delay Compensation Solution for Virtual Studio Mixers

It's okay if you don't have much free time lately. Actually, I've been fixing and somewhat expanding the paper (I might still get rid of the extra content, I'm starting to feel a bit lazy and uninspired) and it would have been better if I was getting the criticism at the same time. You mentioned something about determination (I think); it's not really that, but I have this stupid habit of regularly undertaking very difficult personal projects when I KNOW that I should be doing something mundane but more important (like reading papers on Quantum computing when I should be learning my university Statistics etc). I'm hoping this behaviour will pay off big time some day. These people at the template talk and talk:Sesotho are REALLY annoying me... Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 00:03, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Think I was perhaps a bit too harsh with him? Why doesn't he just GO AWAY!? Seriously, who translated the system messages on the isiZulu Wikipedia!? Is an article really "umlayeza" ("message")? Are you telling me that of all the editors on the Wikipedia not one of them has access to someone who speaks the language? Oh no wait, there are no isiZulu speakers in Cape Town, only in South Africa. "KwaXhosa" is, as far as I know, a non-existant word. I think it's "eKapa Mpumalanga", though I'm not perfectly sure. Who's this isiXhosa teacher in London, and where did you move to? Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 08:06, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, iMpuma Koloni. Where did you get kwaXhosa? Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 08:23, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

DOKE AND VILIKAZI (I think)!!!? Then poor you... I'll try to see if I can possibly help out with that. Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 11:29, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Jose77 is your admin!? Poor poor you... Remember to be careful with your concords. Eg it's "ingxoxo yami" not "lami" and "ukubala kwami" not "wami"; I'll take a longer look later. What, are you not convinced by terms that put the noun and adjective together with no concords? This does happen when creating new complex nouns. Eg "Mzanzi Afrika" and "Afrika Borwa" for South Africa. Notice how in the Sesotho version the words seem "swapt around" but are in the correct order for how Kintu languages apply adjectives. This is not extremely commonplace but seems to be slowly catching on.

Hheyi wena 'mfana weGoli! Isigidi is 1000! Sorry I haven't actually looked at your translations (just glanced and picked up some mistakes), although I probably won't soon (I'm really "busy" - still revising the paper, I'm finally meeting the guy from translate.org.za this Wednesday, fighting Wizzy and Dwo off with a stick...). Also, this is Meyerton, you can't ask anyone here to do anything mildly intelligent such as translating phrases to isiZulu! Who's this prospective teacher in London!? ISIGIDI IS 1000! Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 16:29, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

IsiZulu month names

Picked these up a few seconds ago; they come from the National Language Services. I´m too lazy to list them in the correct order

August - uNcwaba

December - uZibandlela

February - uUhlolanja

January - uMasingana

March - uNdasa

May - uNhlaba

November - uLwezi

October - uMfumfu

September - uMandulo

April - uMbasa

June - uNhlangulana

July - uNtulikazi

Isisgidi ´´is´´ 1000 000, 1000 is inkulungwane (the small large one)...

Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 10:17, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

No need to review the paper anymore - I put up the (hopefully) last version yesterday. I actually realised as I was describing it to the head of Translate.org.za yesterday that there was an even more fundamental problem I had solved: given an acyclic directed graph with multiple entry points and exit points, with each vertex having some numerical property d >= 0; add extra 1-input 1-output vertices with some d's along each edge such that the sum of the d's in each path going from an entry point to an exit point is exactly the same for all paths. Hmm... Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 12:20, 3 August 2006 (UTC)