User talk:JosephCCampana

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Hello, JosephCCampana, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Glad to see your contribution to the ID talk, it's really good to see such information getting raised and properly analysed in a polite way. The article has a massive and convoluted history, much of which I don't know about or am only dimly aware of, and ID propaganda does tend to be repeated which makes the regulars a bit jaded. Nevertheless things are looking hopeful. Must say I'm looking forward to Kitzmiller trial the movie. ...dave souza, talk 22:54, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Dave. I didn't realize how hostile this page was. It's definitely got some hot discussion. I'm not sure how long I'll be a part of this article if this keeps up. Maybe I'm just reading into what people are saying, it's so hard to tell people's motives based solely on the written word of a short statement. -- Joseph C. Campana 18:11, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry about the passion. Here's what happens in a nutshell. Someone (could be a creationist or anti-creationist) enters the discussion section and starts a kefuffle. Obviously, they did not read the archived discussions. Other people, mostly editors who have been trying to improve the article, politely try to point them in the right direction. About 50% of the new editors start getting really angry, and degenerate in to accusations. The older editors, get defensive and lose patience (usually after about a day). They battle. An RfC is started. Everything calms down. Luckily, some of the new editors "evolve" (couldn't help myself) into older editors, and the article, in general, improves. It's a frustrating, but ultimately successful, process. I even think the kerfuffles are useful because everyone formulates better ideas. Orangemarlin 19:53, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]