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Thanks for the Open Championship History section. I know how tricky these are. I rewrote the World Snooker Championship#History a few years ago; took me weeks and weeks. Nigej (talk) 19:54, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

No problem, I relied heavily on the text you had written in various articles to help! Jopal22 (talk) 20:00, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

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Because an individual match is very often traditionally recognised by the cover of its programme. A Premier League season is not typically recognised by the cover art for its season review on iTunes. – PeeJay 19:56, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply User:PeeJay2K3, not sure I agree with your reasoning, but I'm not going to push it. I think it would be good to have some representative infobox image on the football season articles though. Jopal22 (talk) 20:03, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

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I made a mental error. I knew the cut is +4, I simply wasn't thinking straight. Thanks for fixing my mistake. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 23:20, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

no probs Johnsmith2116, it is usually a par 71 Jopal22 (talk) 08:56, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

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I was looking at the Brexit Party Wikipedia page and would like to respectfully disagree with you about the political positioning of the party. You said it was a "single-issue party (for the European Union elections), but I'd argue that the previous label (catch-all) is more true. It seems strange to look at a party that wishes to contest more than just one election as exclusively its positions on one election. It's fighting the Peterborough By-election in less than a month; it definitely has more than one policy, if only shown by the positions of their candidate there. I mean, a lot of parties are "one issue parties for the EU elections." That's what the EU elections are about! One issue: European integration. The Lib Dems and Change UK are one-issue second referendum parties for the sake of the EU elections, UKIP is a one-issue party for the sake of the elections; why do these groups get full positions, yet the Brexit party doesn't? If nothing else, then they definitely have policy in their similarity with UKIP, which Farage said the party was emulating. It just feels strange, similar to calling a party one-issue because of their position on Brexit during the referendum was argued for at the expense of their other policies. It just seems obvious: of course, the party is single-issue for the sake of a one-issue election, but it isn't one-issue generally. There are a good deal of Brexit Party members of the Welsh Assembly who have a whip that makes them vote similarly on more than just Brexit. Surely that is good enough evidence that they aren't merely a one-issue party.

Please discuss this on the Brexit Party talk page. I agree the labelling is not perfect, but the European election is tomorrow so we can review after that. I'd prefer to leave it blank for now until the party has explicitly set out its wider positions, but people kept wanting to add various labels, so I added the current description as I thought is was the most clear to the reader, and it is used widely in the press (which big tent generally isn't). Jopal22 (talk) 08:57, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for helping out with all the golf. We haven't had a lot of dedicated golf editors over the years. Also I can think of only one other regular golf editor from the UK. ... On an unrelated topic, I can't help but wonder how much viewership our NHL and NBA gets there on TV. Our NHL Stanley Cup Finals will have game 3 tonight, and the NBA Finals will have game 2 tomorrow night. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 16:32, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Hey Johnsmith2116, yeah no problem. I'm pretty new to wikipedia editing, and was off work for a bit but am back now so don't have the same amount of time. NHL and NBA don't get much viewership as they are on in the middle of the morning on pay tv channels...and they are sports which generally aren't followed. NBA is on Sky Sports, which is the main sports channel over here, but NHL is on Premier Sports which is very niche. BARB show the top 10 programs by viewership on each channel each week https://www.barb.co.uk/viewing-data/four-screen-dashboard/. With things like golf though it is very difficult to know actual viewers, as golf is shown on Sky Sports Golf, but it is also sometimes also shown on their main channel (Sky Sports Main Event), so you have to add the two together (and golf rely makes the top 10 events on Sky Sports Main Event so isn't shown) Jopal22 (talk) 18:27, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

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Best of luck to England against Norway in the Women's World Cup quarterfinals. If England wins, in the semifinals they would play the winner of the USA and the home team France. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 04:58, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

And it will be the USA against England in the semifinals, on Tuesday. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 02:33, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

I'll probably watch that Johnsmith2116! Jopal22 (talk) 08:44, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Good to hear. But first, today Wimbledon begins. It is always one of my favorite tournaments to watch. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 10:00, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

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You recently reverted an edit here with the comment "similar rv to Max's page". Can you please explain the edit? The fact that something is common on golf related articles does trump Wikipedia policy, and the policy is very clear on MOS:FLAG. Some other pages use it is not a reason to go against the main MOS policy. Please let me know why these pages should go against the agreed Wikipedia Manual of Style. Anyway there is nothing on the Golf wikiproject to say that flags should be used for golfers in any way. Thanks. Canterbury Tail talk 19:24, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi Canterbury Tail. Thanks for your involvement in the golf pages, I see you left the same comment on both my and Tewapack's page. Firstly on flags being relevant, I would argue that this falls into the "In lists or tables, flag icons may be relevant when such representation of different subjects is pertinent to the purpose of the list or table itself" part of MOS:FLAGS. Sporting nationality and flags are widely used and discussed in golf, and are seen as very relevant....a case in point is the spotlight on Irish players in the current Open based in Ireland. For the issue of flags being used without country name, this is a consistent issue on all sporting pages, and in my opinion the MOS needs updating to be less ambiguous and contradictory in different places. As I said this comes up repeatedly e.g. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Archive 124#Flags - again, and I think it is important to avoid edit wars. I would suggest raising this on the main MOS talk page, a page with a high level of user input e.g. WP:FOOTBALL, or a page which has featured article status such as Premier League. As although I understand the WP:OTHER, people would expect an FA to be a good reference point where MOS is ambiguous. Jopal22 (talk) 20:03, 19 July 2019 (UTC).

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Hi there, I was at the 2019 PGA Tour page and clicked enter to put in McIlroy's win, and nothing happened. It turns out that you must have beaten me by a second or two. Well done. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 21:50, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

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Golf Tour Wins

Hi Jopal,

This is Oogglywoogly. I tried to create the Official Tour Wins - Tour era wiki but obviously there was a lot of resistance to that. I was thinking about creating another list that included the combined victories for golfers between the PGA Tour (since 1969) and European Tour. Do you think there is any chance that will work?

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Hi Oogglywoogly. I really don't think there is any chance that would be successful and would be seen as WP:OR. Anything you need to "create" rather than populate similar to lists already created elsewhere will get push back. Is there any source you have that lists "PGA Tour wins since 1969"?

Jopal22 (talk) 18:21, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

No there is no list like that out there, unfortunately. Thank you for your response.

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Hi Jopal,

It's Oogglywoogly again. I was looking to create an "Highest OWGR" in the "Personal Information" box at the beginning of the page for pro golfers. They have this for tennis players. Do you think there will be resistance?

Oogglywoogly (talk) 02:17, 17 September 2019 (UTC)Oogglywoogly

Hi Oogglywoogly. Yes I think having highest ranking and current ranking in the infobox of eahc player would be good. The current ranking would take a lot of updating though, unless you follow the method used by national football teams e.g. England national football team. If you could set that up (i.e. automatic updating), that would be brilliant. Also you should be clear about what to do about players who started their career before the OWGR were introduced. I suggest putting together a plan addressing the above and raising it on the WP:GOLF talk page.

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Also move request for the 2019 ICC T20 World Cup Qualifier too for consistency. Dey subrata (talk) 15:22, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Dey subrata. I think we are okay, I think that will be an automatic change. ICC T20 World Cup and 2020 ICC T20 World Cup are really the prime articles, and the important thing is that everybody who is following these pages is notified. Can't imagine anyone following the qualifier pages and not the main ones! Jopal22 (talk) 15:25, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

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Was not a PGA TOUR sanctioned event it was an unofficial event for a start and it does not count as a career victory for Mickelson so why is it included here ? 92.251.147.172 (talk) 13:31, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

It was a PGA sanctioned unofficial event. It is shown in the unofficial events section. None of the unofficial events count as a career victory Jopal22 (talk) 14:35, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Turkish Airlines Open

Hi there, the link needs updated to 2019 for the T.A.O.. Can you do it? I would do it myself, but I am not able to get the European Tour website to load on my computer anymore. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 18:41, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Johnsmith2116, updated, but it seems you have to link the specific year now. I assume I updated what you were meaning? Yeah, ET has been a bit premature in changing but you need Microsoft Edge explorer now. Jopal22 (talk) 18:58, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. And yes, I have an older version. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 19:02, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

And by the way, unless I am mistaken, I think the PGA Tour has this week off. This is strange. They don't usually take the week off at this time of year, until it is time for their month long break until the new year. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 19:04, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Johnsmith2116. Yeah, they've done that on purpose because of the big money events in Asia. Any tournament held this week would have a very poor field as players would looks to rest and re-adjust to the time difference. Just look at the terrible field for the Houston Open this year. Having 3 big money Asian events in a row kills the field of any tournament in the US the week before/after. Jopal22 (talk) 19:10, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Good point. And I did noticed the field at the Houston Open, it had a 24 ranking, which is like an alternate event. They might end up wishing they kept the Houston Open in the spring. And speaking of those Japanese events, it's a shame that we don't get the Japan Open and the Dunlop Phoenix on TV here in the States. Those are tournaments with great fields that I believe we should be able to see. If Golf Channel wanted to show us those events, I'm sure they could. They always used to show us the year end Thailand Golf Championship event on the Asian tour, even though they didn't need to. I can't help but wonder if maybe no one outside of Japan has those events on their TV. I'd be interested to know if anyone in Europe has those events on their TV. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 19:18, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Nope, not shown in the UK, maybe GolfTV will add it to their portfolio Jopal22 (talk) 19:45, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for doing the new bracket for the Nedbank, but please do the update for the link to it as well (unless someone beats you to it). Thanks. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 07:37, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

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Will MLS Cup 2019 be on TV in the UK? It will be at 8:00 PM tonight in the UK. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 13:08, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Yep, Johnsmith2116. Although the Liverpool v Manchester City Premier League game today is the big one! Jopal22 (talk) 13:45, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Good. That Liverpool vs Manchester City game is on here too, on NBCSN. What network is that game on there, and what network is the MLS game on there? ... Also, I'm watching the six man playoff of the Turkish Airlines Open. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 13:49, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

All on Sky Sports. Just got back home in time for the six man playoff Jopal22 (talk) 13:58, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. And good, you are able to see this playoff. I've never seen a two wave playoff, this is nice to see. Although, they may not get finished in the daylight, maybe under the flood lights, or maybe even hold it over until tomorrow. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 14:03, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Liverpool is leading 3 to 0 at the moment, with 20 minutes remaining. ... Also, the 2019 ATP Finals are underway in London. Is that too on Sky Sports? Here, it is on Tennis Channel. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 17:59, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

ATP events are no longer shown on TV here anymore. Amazon bought all the rights, so it is shown via Amazon Prime Jopal22 (talk) 23:54, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Sorry to hear that. Hopefully they at least show the four major tennis tournaments on TV, if not the other ATP events. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 11:53, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

The numbers are in for the MLS Cup. Here in the States, the championship match between Toronto and Seattle only got 823,000 viewers. That is down 40 percent from last year. Yikes! Johnsmith2116 (talk) 17:39, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

By comparison, the Manchester City/Liverpool match did nearly the same here in the States as the MLS Championship game, getting 733,000 viewers, and that was much earlier in the day here than the MLS championship game! We have a problem with Americans watching their own league. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 18:06, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

To give one more comparison, a few weeks ago, on a Sunday night, the Zozo Championship final round got 789,000 viewers on Golf Channel in the USA, which is only 34,000 viewers less than that MLS championship game got a couple days ago. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 18:27, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

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Would you have any interest in doing a "nationalities in the field" chart? I am not able to load the European Tour website anymore, so, I can't do the chart for the Euro Tour anymore. I always did them every week. Phinumu had been helping me with them lately, but he apparently hasn't edited anything in several days and I am going to be backed up soon, with a new tournament starting in a few days (in South Africa). Would you like to do the one for the Turkish Airlines Open? Johnsmith2116 (talk) 11:48, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

It's probably not something I would be keen to do, but happy to copy and paste any information you might want from the ET website. Note though there are other websites that could give you what you need quite easily. For instance the OWGR website. If you copy the data into excel choosing "match destination formatting" it will look like the below (the example is the Nedbank Golf Challenge) Jopal22 (talk) 11:57, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

18	ENG	Tommy Fleetwood
23	RSA	Louis Oosthuizen
24	AUT	Bernd Wiesberger
25	ENG	Matthew Fitzpatrick
28	ENG	Matt Wallace
37	ESP	Rafa Cabrera Bello
40	SWE	Henrik Stenson
41	ENG	Ian Poulter
51	RSA	Erik van Rooyen
60	SWE	Alex Noren
61	CHN	Haotong Li
62	ENG	Lee Westwood
65	ENG	Tom Lewis
66	RSA	Justin Harding
67	ITA	Andrea Pavan
68	DEN	Lucas Bjerregaard
69	USA	Kurt Kitayama
73	SCO	Robert MacIntyre
76	ENG	Paul Waring(Feb1985)
84	BEL	Thomas Pieters
89	FRA	Benjamin Hebert
91	NED	Joost Luiten
95	THA	Kiradech Aphibarnrat
96	FRA	Mike Lorenzo-Vera
99	ESP	Jorge Campillo
100	RSA	Christiaan Bezuidenhout
106	FRA	Romain Langasque
109	ITA	Guido Migliozzi
110	ESP	Adri Arnaus
118	GER	Martin Kaymer
121	RSA	Branden Grace
126	SWE	Sebastian Soderberg
127	SWE	Marcus Kinhult
132	FIN	Mikko Korhonen
133	NZL	Ryan Fox
136	ENG	Jordan L Smith
138	ENG	Andy Sullivan
143	ENG	Matthew Southgate
148	DEN	Joachim B Hansen
161	BEL	Thomas Detry
163	RSA	Richard Sterne
164	SWE	Joakim Lagergren
166	JPN	Masahiro Kawamura
179	ENG	Aaron Rai
185	RSA	George Coetzee
192	FIN	Kalle Samooja
193	USA	David Lipsky
196	ENG	Oliver Wilson
199	BEL	Nicolas Colsaerts
206	ENG	Chris Paisley
213	SCO	Richie Ramsay
231	AUS	Jason Scrivener
234	RSA	Zander Lombard
235	ENG	Steven Brown
237	IND	Shubhankar Sharma
241	AUS	Scott Hend
250	MAS	Gavin Green
252	ESP	Pablo Larrazabal
270	SCO	Scott Jamieson
274	ESP	Nacho Elvira
285	ESP	Alvaro Quiros
321	IRL	Padraig Harrington
418	RSA	Ernie Els

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Sorry to see this happen, I know it must be frustrating. Some time ago, I believe Nigej went through a similar situation. Maybe you can ask his advice. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 00:53, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Johnsmith2116. I'm just going to wait 7 days for it to expire, hopefully it won't renew Jopal22 (talk) 21:27, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

You're welcome. I didn't know it had an expiration. Hopefully it will be okay for you soon. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 00:22, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

I hope you're hanging in there alright. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 03:30, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Yep, all good Johnsmith2116. The block expired a few hours ago, so I am a wikipedian again! Jopal22 (talk) 08:06, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Good to hear it. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 09:32, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

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Why delete valuable information, and not provide a link to the 'separate page'?

Many people were using the two as comparators, and it was fine as it was. I note there's a link to London Corona in the main page, but one has to scroll all the way to the bottom added links to find Scotland.

And you live in London. Surprise, surprise!

More information (assuming it's accurate) is never a bad thing. Hiding it away just makes it harder for people to find it. Please don't do that.

Let's have more links to more places, and why not have the four nations' regional statistics within the UK page? They make up the UK, after all !!

I notice England's regions are included in the UK stats chart, but Scotland's are not supposed to count in the UK in the same vein? Please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.92.120.162 (talk) 02:52, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Again, I can't stress this enough, more information during this thing is a good thing. It can always be split up at a later, less important date.

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Hi, don't know if you will read this, but sorry you are disappointed at the removal of the Scotland stats breakdown from the main UK page. In response to your points:

• I cannot see where there is a link to the London main page near the table, happy to add a similar link to Scotland if you can point out where it is?
• Scotland, Wales, and N.Ireland and England regions are NUTS statistical regions of the United Kingdom. It seems to make sense to display statistics consistently with statistical regions. The regional breakdown of Scotland was equivalent to breaking down England to counties.
• I am not deleting information, it still exists in a separate and explicit Scotland page.
• This has nothing to do with me living in London (try to avoid personal attacks on wiki).
• All the best in these tough times, and stay strong. If you want to become more involved in editing wikipedia I encourage it, but I found when I did join there is quite a lots of rules and guidance to understand. I would suggest concerns like the ones raised above would be best raised on the talk page of the article, as then others will also offer an opinion Jopal22 (talk) 09:54, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

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