User talk:Jollygood

Welcome!

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[[Help requested, May 9th, 2007

QUESTION]]: Is there a way that I can see the number of "hits" or number of visitors who have viewed a a particular article on Wikipedia? (I could not find the answer to this question in the FAQs.) Thank you Jollygood 00:51, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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I don't know if my contribution has been accepted for display on Wikpedia??? I can't seem to find it when I search from the main page...what am I doing wrong?

muncher 00:59, 11 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I saw that you used the {{helpme}} tag. Please stand by and I will look in to your situation. --Winter ^{(talk ¦ ✉)} 01:25, 11 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You can look at [1] Does this answer your question? Also, here is your contributions page. [2] --Winter ^{(talk ¦ ✉)} 01:32, 11 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am responding to your {{helpme}} question. Wikipedia's search index is out of date (maybe up to a month), so you won't find your article by using the search bar - not for a few weeks. Does that answer your question?--Commander Keane 01:50, 11 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks. Advertising is vandalism Ted 06:33, 11 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Institutes for the Advancement of Human Potential.

How come my user name is 'Jollygood' , but when I sign my name with four tildes it says 'muncher'? How can I get down to just one name?

You can change your signature in your preferences. --The Great Llama^{(now on editor review!)} 00:53, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Published Results

I am very surprised at the claim you make that other organisations don't have "published results ... for the treatment of epilepsy".

There are two sorts of "published data" that appear in medical journals. The first is "case notes" which is similar to the results I have seen published by IAHP. Briefly, these go along the lines of "We had 10 patients with X. We treated them with Y. Of these, 5 got better, 1 died and 2 left before treatment finished". They are the weakest form of published information. You don't know how the 10 patients were selected (are they "easy" patients or the "hard-to-treat" ones). You don't know whether most of the 5 would have got better anyway (a very common situation, especially with childhood epilepsy). Is the one who died a coincidence or was it caused by the treatment? However, these articles are useful because they encourage others to do further research. They are not considered evidence-based medicine, which many regard as the gold standard.

The second sort of data comes from clinical trials. Clinical trials of all sorts of epilepsy treatments are ongoing throughout the medical community. These involve both drugs and also such treatments as the Ketogenic Diet, Vagus Nerve Stimulator and even Aromatherapy with Hypnosis. The best form is the randomised double-blind placebo-controlled trial. Obviously, placebo is often not possible for non-drug therapy. In this case, you can still use randomisation. For example: you recruit 100 children with epilepsy. Half of them will randomly be assigned the treatment under test (e.g. Ketogenic diet) and half will get an existing treatment (e.g. drugs). Both groups are monitored over e.g. 1 year. You then see which group did better. You can even choose to swap the two groups midway. This is known as a crossover trial. I can see no good reason why the IHAP treatment cannot be scrutinised independently and the results written up in a peer-reviewed journal.

The web site PubMed makes details of 16 million published medical research papers available. Often you can only read the abstract of a research paper without paying for a subscription. Occasionally, the journal makes the full text freely available. For the lay reader, the abstract can still contain a valuable amount of information.

Some of the best quality critical analysis of research is done by The Cochrane Collaboration. Their epilepsy-related articles are here. They review lots of published research, throw away the stuff that doesn't meet their very high standards, and provide conclusions based on the best current evidence.

Please, therefore, take a skeptical look at some of IAHP's claims before repeating them yourself. Remember it has no need to be balanced, fair (or even dare I say truthful) in its own promotional material.

Best wishes --Colin 16:01, 13 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Published Results

Colin Thank you for the above note. As an FYI--according to the directors of the Institutes, they have attempted to enter statistically-based studies. Janet Doman claims in Lecture 1 of the IAHP Lecture Series that the Institutes had entered an agreement with John Hopkins University to conduct a controlled study in order to examine the effectiveness of the IAHP treatment. By agreement, John Hopkins would supply the ‘control’ group while IAHP would have the ‘treatment’ group. Ms. Doman said that the people at John Hopkins decided not to proceed and the study did not occur. The other alternative is for the Institutes to conduct a controlled study where they randomly assign new child patients to either a control group or to a treatment group. Janet Doman has said that they considered doing this as well, but did not proceed since they felt that this is unfair to parents who bring their kids to the Institutes to get well—not to act as control subject who would not receive treatment.muncher 16:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Answer

Hi Jollygood. Unfortunately, due to performace reasons, the MediaWiki page hit counter is disabled, meaning that you cannot find out how many people have viewed particular pages. For more info, see this link. WjBscribe 00:58, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Elmwood High School (Winnipeg, Manitoba) (April 11)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Asparagusus was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

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Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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Asparagusus (interaction) 01:12, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Jollygood! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Asparagusus (interaction) 01:12, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Connected

Sorry, I reverted your offering of the same source from MHS as a footnote for the sentence about connecting the two schools. The detail in your sentence is simply not present in the MHS webpage about the school. If you are writing out of your own knowledge, I'm afraid that's not going to be accepted - you can either cut the sentence down to just what is supported by the source or provide a different published source able to support the details in the entire sentence.

Oh, and welcome back to editing after what looks like a long hiatus. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:43, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Elmwood High School (Winnipeg, Manitoba) (April 16)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Greenman was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
reliable
secondary
strictly independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

See WP:NSCHOOL.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Elmwood High School (Winnipeg, Manitoba) and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Greenman (talk) 21:10, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Greenman nd thanks for your help

---so if I understand correctly the school needs to meet notable threashhold---well first fact I can mention is that

Elmwood High was the school of Olympic Gold medalist Clara Hughes ---her wiki article under "Career" mentions this fact that she graduated from there. Clara has spoken at the school after winning her medals. ---does that help? user:Jollygood 03:50, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Elmwood High School (Winnipeg, Manitoba) (June 20)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by RPSkokie was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
reliable
secondary
strictly independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Elmwood High School (Winnipeg, Manitoba) and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
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RPSkokie (talk) 08:44, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Elmwood High School (Winnipeg, Manitoba)

Hello, Jollygood. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Elmwood High School (Winnipeg, Manitoba), a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 09:05, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Elmwood High School (Winnipeg, Manitoba)

Hello, Jollygood. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Elmwood High School".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 08:44, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]