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WPCleaner 2.0

Installer for WPCleaner

Hello Johnny Au.

I would like to inform you that a new version of WPCleaner is available replacing the old version (v1.43) dating back to almost a year. Unfortunately, going from version 1.43 to 2.0 automatically isn't possible and will require a new installation. It's necessary to install version 2.0 to take advantage of updates and bug fixes. Version 1.43 will have to be uninstalled manually, as there are no more updates for it.

The installation procedure is described at Wikipedia:WPCleaner/Installation.

Note: for usage in Bot mode, I strongly advise to check the modifications to be sure that the tasks run correctly

--NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 13:13, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

It doesn't work for me. I have posted the problem in the WPCleaner talk page. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:31, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
It now works. It's just slow. Very slow. Slower than molasses during a bitter winter night. It was faster before. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:24, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
Strange. You're the only one reporting that it's slow: is there any specific part that is slow, or is it everything ? Maybe something to do with Mac... --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 07:56, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
It takes a very long time to analyze data and to submit changes. It takes a few minutes even on an average-length article. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 12:40, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
Strange... Do you have a file WPCleaner.log created somewhere when using 2.0 ? If so, can you delete it, and change the configuration in the options to check everything in the Debug tab. Then try working a bit and send me the WPCleaner.log file ? --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 08:06, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
It loads very quickly when it comes to very short articles, but for longer articles, it takes a very long time to analyze data and an even longer time to submit changes.

By the way, here's the content of the log file in a collapsible table:

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21:07:52.889 [Thread-1] INFO  API - GET  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?meta=tokens&continue=&format=json&action=query&type=login
21:07:53.678 [Thread-1] INFO  API - POST https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?format=xml&action=login&lgname=Johnny Au
21:07:55.452 [Thread-1] WARN  o.w.api.request.BasicApiResult - Warning reported: main - Subscribe to the mediawiki-api-announce mailing list at <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api-announce> for notice of API deprecations and breaking changes. Use [[Special:ApiFeatureUsage]] to see usage of deprecated features by your application.
21:07:55.452 [Thread-1] WARN  o.w.api.request.BasicApiResult - Warning reported: login - Main-account login via "action=login" is deprecated and may stop working without warning. To continue login with "action=login", see [[Special:BotPasswords]]. To safely continue using main-account login, see "action=clientlogin".
21:07:55.455 [Thread-1] INFO  API - GET  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?usprop=groups|rights&continue=&ususers=Johnny Au&format=xml&action=query&list=users
21:07:55.584 [Thread-1] INFO  API - GET  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?meta=tokens&continue=&format=json&action=query&type=csrf
21:07:55.708 [Thread-1] INFO  API - GET  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?siprop=general|namespaces|namespacealiases|languages|interwikimap|magicwords|specialpagealiases&meta=siteinfo&continue=&format=xml&action=query
21:07:55.978 [Thread-1] INFO  API - GET  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?continue=&prop=revisions|info&inprop=protection&format=xml&rvslots=main&action=query&titles=User:NicoV/WikiCleanerConfiguration|User:Johnny Au/WikiCleanerConfiguration&rvprop=content|ids|timestamp
21:07:56.126 [Thread-1] INFO  API - GET  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?continue=&prop=revisions|info&inprop=protection&format=xml&rvslots=main&action=query&titles=Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Typos&rvprop=content|ids|timestamp
21:07:56.507 [Thread-1] WARN  o.w.api.data.Suggestion - Incorrect pattern syntax for [\b([Aa])  ?([Aa](?!nd\b|AA?T?|s\b|ldo|lguien\b|pagar\b|probat\b|rtelor\b|tahualpa\b|ustriei\b|\b|ED|FN|LL|MD|NG|OA|RS|UD|WG|ZN)[A-Za-z0-9]{0,99}|[Ee](?!u|dil\b|ma\b|mpezar\b|ncore\b|nse[nñ]ar|ntenderse\b|sa\b|spa[nñ]|st(a\b|é|e\b)|vrop|w[abei]|\b|GP|RN|TB|URO?)[A-Za-z0-9]{0,99}|h(?:aut[besu]|eir|our|ones|onou?r|ors\sd)[A-Za-z0-9]{0,99}|[Ii](?![0-9]|[nst]\b|[IiVvXx]\b|[Ii]|greja|nglat|nstitucí|mmagini\b|ts\b|ure\b|\b|DR|LS|NR|QD|RR|SK)[A-Za-z0-9]{0,99}|[Oo](?!ax|bra|cho|d\b|f\b|ggi|kol[íi]e?\b|[Nn][Cc][Ee]|[Nn][Ee](\b|[A-Fa-fHhJ-Qj-qS-Zs-z0-9]|r[a-np-z])|rfu\b|opa|raşului|ra[sș]ului|ui|MR)[A-Za-z0-9]{0,99}|u(?!b[aio]|[ef]|ga[ln]|in|itz|k|lu|n(\s|:)|na(\b|n|r)|nes|ni([^m]|mo|\b)|[rst][aeiou]|rl\b|v[aeiru]|\b)[a-z]{0,99})(?<=\b[A-Za-z]{2,99}(?<!:|\btoda|\bpara|\b[Ii]nterpreta|\b[Vv]olta|\bva|\bund|\brecibe|\bde|[Vv]eche|\bque|\b[Rr]oi|\b[Ii]l|\scom|\bllevan|\btren|\b[Vv]olver|\be[nst]|\bnous)(?:\.\s?\s[Aa] |\,?\;?\sa ) ?\2)]: Look-behind group does not have an obvious maximum length near index 932
\b([Aa])  ?([Aa](?!nd\b|AA?T?|s\b|ldo|lguien\b|pagar\b|probat\b|rtelor\b|tahualpa\b|ustriei\b|\b|ED|FN|LL|MD|NG|OA|RS|UD|WG|ZN)[A-Za-z0-9]{0,99}|[Ee](?!u|dil\b|ma\b|mpezar\b|ncore\b|nse[nñ]ar|ntenderse\b|sa\b|spa[nñ]|st(a\b|é|e\b)|vrop|w[abei]|\b|GP|RN|TB|URO?)[A-Za-z0-9]{0,99}|h(?:aut[besu]|eir|our|ones|onou?r|ors\sd)[A-Za-z0-9]{0,99}|[Ii](?![0-9]|[nst]\b|[IiVvXx]\b|[Ii]|greja|nglat|nstitucí|mmagini\b|ts\b|ure\b|\b|DR|LS|NR|QD|RR|SK)[A-Za-z0-9]{0,99}|[Oo](?!ax|bra|cho|d\b|f\b|ggi|kol[íi]e?\b|[Nn][Cc][Ee]|[Nn][Ee](\b|[A-Fa-fHhJ-Qj-qS-Zs-z0-9]|r[a-np-z])|rfu\b|opa|raşului|ra[sș]ului|ui|MR)[A-Za-z0-9]{0,99}|u(?!b[aio]|[ef]|ga[ln]|in|itz|k|lu|n(\s|:)|na(\b|n|r)|nes|ni([^m]|mo|\b)|[rst][aeiou]|rl\b|v[aeiru]|\b)[a-z]{0,99})(?<=\b[A-Za-z]{2,99}(?<!:|\btoda|\bpara|\b[Ii]nterpreta|\b[Vv]olta|\bva|\bund|\brecibe|\bde|[Vv]eche|\bque|\b[Rr]oi|\b[Ii]l|\scom|\bllevan|\btren|\b[Vv]olver|\be[nst]|\bnous)(?:\.\s?\s[Aa] |\,?\;?\sa ) ?\2)
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21:07:56.572 [Thread-1] INFO  API - GET  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?continue=&prop=revisions|info&inprop=protection&format=xml&rvslots=main&action=query&titles=Wikipedia:WikiProject Check Wikipedia/Translation&rvprop=content|ids|timestamp
21:07:56.715 [Thread-1] INFO  API - GET  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?continue=&prop=links&pllimit=max&format=xml&action=query&titles=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_103_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_048_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_060_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_101_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_062_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_014_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_054_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_112_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_031_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_046_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_065_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_006_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_095_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_038_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_089_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_025_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_090_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_076_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_097_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_071_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_049_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_087_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_004_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_010_whitelist
21:07:57.049 [Thread-1] INFO  API - GET  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?continue=&prop=links&pllimit=max&format=xml&action=query&titles=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_019_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_085_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_040_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_015_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_098_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_034_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_028_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_002_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_061_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_047_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_032_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_039_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_058_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_070_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_100_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_026_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_043_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_024_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_105_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_037_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_069_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_005_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_091_whitelist|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_064_whitelist
21:07:57.296 [Thread-1] INFO  API - GET  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?ammessages=duplicate-args-category|linter-heading-high-priority|linter-category-deletable-table-tag|linter-category-html5-misnesting|linter-category-misc-tidy-replacement-issues|linter-category-multiline-html-table-in-list|linter-category-multiple-unclosed-formatting-tags|linter-category-pwrap-bug-workaround|linter-category-self-closed-tag|linter-category-tidy-font-bug|linter-category-tidy-whitespace-bug|linter-category-unclosed-quotes-in-heading|linter-heading-medium-priority|linter-category-bogus-image-options|linter-category-fostered|linter-category-misnested-tag|linter-category-multi-colon-escape|linter-heading-low-priority|linter-category-missing-end-tag|linter-category-obsolete-tag|linter-category-stripped-tag&meta=allmessages&continue=&format=xml&action=query
21:07:57.905 [Thread-3] INFO  API - GET  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?wrlimit=max&format=xml&action=query&list=watchlistraw
21:07:58.050 [MW-2] INFO  API - GET  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?redirects=&continue=&prop=pageprops&format=xml&action=query&titles=Toronto van attack|University of Toronto|York, Toronto|User:Johnny Au|Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias/open tasks&ppprop=disambiguation
21:07:58.051 [MW-1] INFO  API - GET  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?redirects=&continue=&prop=pageprops&format=xml&action=query&titles=2015 Pan American Games|Architecture of Toronto|Art Gallery of Ontario|CN Tower|Canada's Wonderland|Chronological summary of the 2015 Pan American Games|Danforth shooting|Demographics of Toronto|Flexity Outlook (Toronto streetcar)|Geography of Toronto|Golden Horseshoe|Greater Toronto Area|Line 1 Yonge–University|Line 2 Bloor–Danforth|Line 3 Scarborough|Line 4 Sheppard|Line 5 Eglinton|Line 6 Finch West|List of Toronto Transit Commission bus routes|List of Toronto parks|List of diagonal roads in Toronto|List of east–west roads in Toronto|List of neighbourhoods in Toronto|List of north–south roads in Toronto|List of shopping malls in Toronto|List of tallest buildings in Toronto|Public transportation in Toronto|Relief Line (Toronto)|Rogers Centre|Royal Ontario Museum|Scotiabank Arena|Target Canada|Toronto|Toronto Blue Jays|Toronto Eaton Centre|Toronto FC|Toronto Maple Leafs|Toronto Pearson International Airport|Toronto Raptors|Toronto Rocket|Toronto Star|Toronto Transit Commission|Toronto Transit Commission bus system|Toronto Transit Commission fares|Toronto Transit Commission incidents|Toronto Zoo|Toronto streetcar system|Toronto streetcar system rolling stock|Toronto subway|Toronto subway rolling stock&ppprop=disambiguation
21:08:06.558 [Thread-4] INFO  API - GET  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?continue=&prop=pageprops|info&format=xml&action=query&generator=links&gpllimit=max&titles=List of diagonal roads in Toronto&ppprop=disambiguation&gplnamespace=0
21:08:06.558 [MW-3] INFO  API - GET  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?continue=&prop=revisions|info&inprop=protection&format=xml&rvslots=main&action=query&titles=List of diagonal roads in Toronto&rvprop=content|ids|timestamp
21:08:07.931 [Thread-4] INFO  API - GET  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?redirects=&continue=&prop=pageprops&format=xml&action=query&titles=Albion Road (Toronto)|Birchmount Road|Broadview Avenue|Browns Line|Chaplin Crescent|Coxwell Avenue|Cummer Avenue|Danforth Road|Dawes Road|Dixon Road|Don Mills Road|Dupont Street|Ellesmere Road|Islington Avenue|Jane Street (Toronto)|Kay Gardner Beltline Park|Kennedy Road (Toronto)|Leslie Street|Martin Grove Road|Mavis Road|McCowan Road|McNicoll Avenue|Midland Avenue|Peel Regional Road 5|Peel Regional Road 7|Queen Street East|Rexdale Boulevard|Richmond Street|Scarlett Road|Spadina Expressway|Trethewey Drive|Warden Avenue|Wilson Avenue&ppprop=disambiguation
21:08:09.022 [Thread-4] INFO  API - GET  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?continue=&prop=revisions&format=xml&rvslots=main&action=query&titles=Albion Road (Toronto)|Birchmount Road|Broadview Avenue|Browns Line|Chaplin Crescent|Coxwell Avenue|Cummer Avenue|Danforth Road|Dawes Road|Dixon Road|Don Mills Road|Dupont Street|Ellesmere Road|Islington Avenue|Jane Street (Toronto)|Kay Gardner Beltline Park|Kennedy Road (Toronto)|Leslie Street|Martin Grove Road|Mavis Road|McCowan Road|McNicoll Avenue|Midland Avenue|Peel Regional Road 5|Peel Regional Road 7|Queen Street East|Rexdale Boulevard|Richmond Street|Scarlett Road|Spadina Expressway|Trethewey Drive|Warden Avenue|Wilson Avenue&rvprop=content
21:10:17.548 [Thread-5] INFO  API - GET  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?continue=&prop=pageprops|info&format=xml&action=query&generator=links&gpllimit=max&titles=Toronto Raptors&ppprop=disambiguation&gplnamespace=0
21:10:17.548 [MW-4] INFO  API - GET  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?continue=&prop=revisions|info&inprop=protection&format=xml&rvslots=main&action=query&titles=Toronto Raptors&rvprop=content|ids|timestamp
21:10:18.897 [Thread-5] INFO  API - GET  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?continue=gplcontinue||&prop=pageprops|info&format=xml&action=query&generator=links&gpllimit=max&titles=Toronto Raptors&ppprop=disambiguation&gplnamespace=0&gplcontinue=72879|0|NBA_Africa_Game_2018
21:10:19.193 [Thread-5] INFO  API - GET  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?redirects=&continue=&prop=pageprops&format=xml&action=query&titles=1995 NBA Expansion Draft|2014 NBA playoffs|American Basketball Association–National Basketball Association merger|BMO Training Ground|Cambridge Winterhawks|Durham United FC|Forward (basketball)|Frontcourt|Guard (basketball)|Guelph Hurricanes|List of NBA mascots|Markham Ironheads|Molson|NBA collective bargaining agreement|North Toronto Nitros|Oakville Blue Devils|Orangeville Flyers|Pelham Pirates|Sigma FC|The Vancouver Sun|Toronto sports|University of Ontario Institute of Technology Ridgebacks|Villanova Knights|Western Ontario Mustangs|Windsor Stars|Woodbridge Strikers&ppprop=disambiguation
21:10:19.731 [Thread-5] INFO  API - GET  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?continue=&prop=revisions&format=xml&rvslots=main&action=query&titles=1995 NBA Expansion Draft|2014 NBA playoffs|American Basketball Association–National Basketball Association merger|BMO Training Ground|Cambridge Winterhawks|Durham United FC|Forward (basketball)|Frontcourt|Guard (basketball)|Guelph Hurricanes|List of NBA mascots|Markham Ironheads|Molson|NBA collective bargaining agreement|North Toronto Nitros|Oakville Blue Devils|Orangeville Flyers|Pelham Pirates|Sigma FC|The Vancouver Sun|Toronto sports|University of Ontario Institute of Technology Ridgebacks|Villanova Knights|Western Ontario Mustangs|Windsor Stars|Woodbridge Strikers&rvprop=content
21:14:52.836 [Thread-6] INFO  API - GET  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?continue=&prop=pageprops|info&format=xml&action=query&generator=links&gpllimit=max&titles=Chronological summary of the 2015 Pan American Games&ppprop=disambiguation&gplnamespace=0
21:14:52.836 [MW-5] INFO  API - GET  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?continue=&prop=revisions|info&inprop=protection&format=xml&rvslots=main&action=query&titles=Chronological summary of the 2015 Pan American Games&rvprop=content|ids|timestamp
21:14:53.347 [Thread-6] INFO  API - GET  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?continue=gplcontinue||&prop=pageprops|info&format=xml&action=query&generator=links&gpllimit=max&titles=Chronological summary of the 2015 Pan American Games&ppprop=disambiguation&gplnamespace=0&gplcontinue=45421272|0|Jarrin_Solomon
21:14:54.286 [Thread-6] INFO  API - GET  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?continue=gplcontinue||&prop=pageprops|info&format=xml&action=query&generator=links&gpllimit=max&titles=Chronological summary of the 2015 Pan American Games&ppprop=disambiguation&gplnamespace=0&gplcontinue=45421272|0|Uruguay_women's_national_field_hockey_team
21:14:54.442 [Thread-6] INFO  API - GET  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?redirects=&continue=&prop=pageprops&format=xml&action=query&titles=2015 Parapan Games medal table|Aquatic sports|Bids for the 2015 Pan American Games|Ecuador men's national water polo team|Kelsi Worrell|Pan American Sports Organization|Panama national under-23 football team|Peru national under-23 football team|Sailing at the 2015 Pan American Games – Men's Laser|Swimming at the 2015 Pan American Games – Men's 200 metre breastroke|Tennis at the 2015 Pan American Games – Women's doubles|Tennis at the 2015 Pan American Games – Women's singles|Trinidad and Tobago national under-23 football team|Uruguay national under-23 football team&ppprop=disambiguation
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21:18:05.052 [Thread-7] INFO  API - POST https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?summary=v2.0 - Changed tense&basetimestamp=2018-09-11T00:28:08Z&minor=&assert=user&bot=&format=xml&action=edit&text={{2015 Pan American Games}}...&title=Chronological summary of the 2015 Pan American Games&watchlist=nochange&token=48ddcf180b8eafcee45002de562108845ba1a16b+\&tags=WPCleaner
21:25:40.469 [Thread-8] INFO  API - GET  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?continue=&prop=pageprops|info&format=xml&action=query&generator=links&gpllimit=max&titles=Canada's Wonderland&ppprop=disambiguation&gplnamespace=0
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21:25:41.985 [Thread-8] INFO  API - GET  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?redirects=&continue=&prop=pageprops&format=xml&action=query&titles=Action Theatre|Canadian Soccer Hall of Fame|City (TV network)|Drop Tower: Scream Zone|Frontier Canada|Geographical coordinates|Gigacoaster|Heartline roll|Interactive dark ride|International Street (Canada's Wonderland)|Iwerks Entertainment|List of Fast Lane attractions|Medieval|Mediterranean culture|Molson Amphitheatre|MuchMusic|Multi-lane racer water slide|Nickelodeon Central|Ontario Place (theme park)|Promenade Shopping Centre|S&S Worldwide|Seasons|Sledgehammer (ride)|Theme park|Toronto Nationals (1970–80)|Tower swinger|Vaughan municipal election, 2010|White Water Canyon (Canada's Wonderland)|York Regional Road 55&ppprop=disambiguation
21:25:42.138 [Thread-8] INFO  API - GET  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?continue=&prop=revisions&format=xml&rvslots=main&action=query&titles=Action Theatre|Canadian Soccer Hall of Fame|City (TV network)|Drop Tower: Scream Zone|Frontier Canada|Geographical coordinates|Gigacoaster|Heartline roll|Interactive dark ride|International Street (Canada's Wonderland)|Iwerks Entertainment|List of Fast Lane attractions|Medieval|Mediterranean culture|Molson Amphitheatre|MuchMusic|Multi-lane racer water slide|Nickelodeon Central|Ontario Place (theme park)|Promenade Shopping Centre|S&S Worldwide|Seasons|Sledgehammer (ride)|Theme park|Toronto Nationals (1970–80)|Tower swinger|Vaughan municipal election, 2010|White Water Canyon (Canada's Wonderland)|York Regional Road 55&rvprop=content

21:28:59.065 [Thread-9] INFO  API - POST https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?summary=v2.0 - [[WP:WCW]] project (Spelling and typography)&basetimestamp=2018-09-11T14:11:36Z&minor=&assert=user&bot=&format=xml&action=edit&text={{Use Canadian English|date=September 2011}}...&title=Canada's Wonderland&watchlist=nochange&token=48ddcf180b8eafcee45002de562108845ba1a16b+\&tags=WPCleaner

Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:06, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

@NicoV: I have calculated how long it loads for a medium-length article (approximately 30kB to 40kB): approximately two minutes for analyzing and approximately two minutes for submitting. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 03:14, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
@Johnny Au: I've made some performance improvements on AWB regular expressions, and also added a possibility to have more detailed logs for performance analysis, see Wikipedia talk:WPCleaner#Very slow on some pages. Do you see an improvement? Otherwise, can you try activating the detailed logs and post them so I can try to find out where it takes too much time. For medium-length articles, the problem can also be related to syntax highlighting: in the options, you can reduce the maximum size where WPCleaner will highlight the syntax (by default, it should be at 40kB, but a page between 30kB and 40kB can take a long time for syntax highlighting...). --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 08:52, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
@NicoV: I will take a look once I have time. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 13:55, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
@NicoV: It's much faster and smoother now. Thank you so much for making the improvements and have a great day. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:08, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Plausible redirects

You reverted an edit I made, with the edit summary "Undid revision 865857276 by Geo Swan (talk) removed redlinks"

I just checked, to confirm Wikipedia:Red_link#Dealing_with_existing_red_links still says: "In general, a red link should be allowed to remain in an article if it links to a term that could plausibly sustain an article, but for which there is no existing candidate article, or article section, under any name."

Do you believe either Cole or Dale could not "plausibly sustain an article"? Geo Swan (talk) 05:04, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

They could plausibly have articles, but now isn't the time. Many journalists aren't linked yet for this very reason. When they have articles can they be linked. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:37, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

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You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has wrapped up most of their work on the 2017 wikitext editor and the visual diff tool. The team has begun investigating the needs of editors who use mobile devices. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are fixing bugs and improving mobile editing.

Recent changes

Let's work together

  • The Editing Team wants to improve visual editing on the mobile website. Please read their ideas and tell the team what you think would help editors who use the mobile site.
  • The Community Wishlist Survey begins next week.
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Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17:12, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Toronto

The article Toronto you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:Toronto for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Catrìona (talk) 16:49, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

I also have others review and edit the article, given its notability as the most populous city in a G7 country and one of the world's most important cities, important and significant enough to justify indefinite semi-protection, which has been proven during the two-week temporary unprotection in late November 2016 and was given indefinite semi-protection again in early December 2016. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 03:20, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Rapid transit in Canada

FYI: For a third time (as per older discussions), Mattximus wishes to include LRT in the article Rapid transit in Canada, thus redefining "rapid transit" to include LRT and perhaps BRT. Mattximus justifies putting Line 5 Eglinton into the article because Line 5 is partly underground and because it has been described as "rapid transit" on its official website. The discussion is at Talk:Rapid transit in Canada#Line 5 of the Toronto Subway is considered rapid transit. There are four supporting this change and three opposed. You had commented on one of the earlier discussions on the topic. TheTrolleyPole (talk) 12:39, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

I replied there and even added portal links in the main article. That article is very short (but not short enough to be a stub), despite there being some upcoming rapid transit systems in various major Canadian municipalities. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 12:57, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

To anyone reading my user talk page, please feel free to ask a question to me and I will answer it as promptly as possible. Thank you. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 14:13, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

The meetup was over and it was such a great experience. I even fixed a table in the Timeline of Toronto history article by merging two tables that should be a single table. At least I get to help others. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:53, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
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  • fêter:

Hi Johnny! Long time no see! You've heard [ˈfeɪ̯te] or [ˈfaɪ̯te]? 138.229.19.202 (talk) 14:23, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Welcome back. I heard it as the former. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:04, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
Thank you. 138.229.19.202 (talk) 00:15, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
No problem. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:57, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

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Music

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At 3:19 until 3:23, it's in E major, C♯ minor, or both together? 138.229.19.202 (talk) 00:19, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Both together. Even Audacity and Logic Pro X are confused about the key (I now have the latter software as well, which I included with my new mid-2019 27" BTO Intel-based iMac, which is not exactly inexpensive). I ended up using my own ear (and they are still better than even the most expensive software). The software just help me with the task and bring me closer to the correct key. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:02, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

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Editing News #1—July 2019

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Did you know?

Did you know that you can use the visual editor on a mobile device?

Every article has a pencil icon at the top. Tap on the pencil icon to start editing.

Edit Cards

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This is what the new Edit Cards for editing links in the mobile visual editor look like. You can try the prototype here: 📲 Try Edit Cards.

Welcome back to the Editing newsletter.

Since the last newsletter, the team has released two new features for the mobile visual editor and has started developing three more. All of this work is part of the team's goal to make editing on mobile web simpler.

Before talking about the team's recent releases, we have a question for you:

Are you willing to try a new way to add and change links?

If you are interested, we would value your input! You can try this new link tool in the mobile visual editor on a separate wiki.

Follow these instructions and share your experience:

📲 Try Edit Cards.

Recent releases

The mobile visual editor is a simpler editing tool for smartphones, tablets and some smartwatches using the mobile site. The Editing team has recently launched two new features to improve the mobile visual editor:

  1. Section editing
    • The purpose is to help contributors focus on their edits.
    • The team studied this with an A/B test. This test showed that contributors who could use section editing were one percent more likely to publish the edits they started than people with only full-page editing.
  2. Loading overlay
    • The purpose is to smooth the transition between reading and editing.

Section editing and the new loading overlay are now available to everyone using the mobile visual editor.

New and active projects

This is a list of our most active projects. Watch these pages to learn about project updates and to share your input on new designs, prototypes and research findings.

  • Edit cards: This is a clearer way to add and edit links, citations, images, templates, etc. in articles. You can try this feature now. Go here to see how: 📲Try Edit Cards.
  • Mobile toolbar refresh: This project will learn if contributors are more successful when the editing tools are easier to recognize.
  • Mobile visual editor availability: This A/B test asks: Are newer contributors more successful if they use the mobile visual editor? We are collaborating with 20 Wikipedias to answer this question.
  • Usability improvements: This project will make the mobile visual editor easier to use. The goal is to let contributors stay focused on editing and to feel more confident in the editing tools.

Looking ahead

  • Wikimania: Several members of the Editing Team will be attending Wikimania in August 2019. They will lead a session about mobile editing in the Community Growth space. Talk to them about how editing can be improved.
  • Talk Pages: In the coming months, the Editing Team will begin improving talk pages and communication on the wikis.

Learning more

The VisualEditor on mobile is a good place to learn more about the projects on which we are working. The team wants to talk with you about anything related to editing. If you want a discussion or an inquiry, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.

PPelberg (WMF) (talk) and Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:25, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Editing News #2 – Mobile editing and talk pages – October 2019

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Inside this newsletter, the Editing team talks about their work on the mobile visual editor, on the new talk pages project, and at Wikimania 2019.

Help

What talk page interactions do you remember? Is it a story about how someone helped you to learn something new? Is it a story about how someone helped you get involved in a group? Is it a story about how you convinced a vandal to be constructive? Something else? Whatever your story is, we want to hear it!

Please tell us a story about how you used a talk page. Please share a link to a memorable discussion or describe it on the talk page for this project. The team would value your examples. These examples will help everyone develop a shared understanding of what this project should support and encourage.

Talk Pages

The Talk Pages Consultation was a global consultation to define better tools for wiki communication. From February through June 2019, more than 500 volunteers on 20 wikis, across 15 languages and multiple projects, came together with members of the Foundation to create a product direction for a set of discussion tools. The Phase 2 Report of the Talk Page Consultation was published in August. It summarizes the product direction the team has started to work on, which you can read more about here: Talk Page Project project page.

The team needs and wants your help at this early stage. They are starting to develop the first idea. Please add your name to the "Getting involved" section of the project page, if you would like to hear about opportunities to participate.

Mobile visual editor

The Editing team is trying to make it simpler to edit on mobile devices. The team is changing the visual editor on mobile. If you have something to say about editing on a mobile device, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.

What happens when you click on a link. The new Edit Card is larger and has more options for editing links.
The editing toolbar is changing in the mobile visual editor. The old system had two different toolbars. Now, all the buttons are together. Tell the team what you think about the new toolbar.
  • In September, the Editing team updated the mobile visual editor's editing toolbar. Anyone could see these changes in the mobile visual editor.
    • One toolbar: All of the editing tools are located in one toolbar. Previously, the toolbar changed when you clicked on different things.
    • New navigation: The buttons for moving forward and backwards in the edit flow have changed.
    • Seamless switching: an improved workflow for switching between the visual and wikitext modes.
  • Feedback: You can try the refreshed toolbar by opening the mobile VisualEditor on a smartphone or tablet computer, regardless of the operating system. Please post your feedback on the Toolbar feedback talk page.

Wikimania

The Editing Team attended Wikimania 2019 in Sweden. They led a session on the mobile visual editor and a session on the new talk pages project. They tested two new features in the mobile visual editor with contributors. You can read more about what the team did and learned in the team's report on Wikimania 2019.

Looking ahead

  • Talk Pages Project: The team is thinking about the first set of proposed changes. The team will be working with a few communities to pilot those changes. The best way to stay informed is by adding your username to the list on the project page: Getting involved.
  • Testing the mobile visual editor as the default: The Editing team plans to post results before the end of the calendar year. The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: VisualEditor as mobile default project page.
  • Measuring the impact of Edit Cards: The Editing team hopes to share results in November. This study asks whether the project helped editors add links and citations. The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: Edit Cards project page.

PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 16:51, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Where did you get the number you added here from? ©Geni (talk) 03:51, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

I have been calculating it from my spreadsheet. It is available upon request. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:16, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
Why is it so different from the number calculated here? ©Geni (talk) 20:54, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
@Geni: Here is the spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/16p-QqEOHm8M8GGNJBoeO4eSJ3FIog35h/view?usp=sharing (up to October 2019) See for yourself. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:47, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
Hmm thing is we can now directly pull the number of words from Special:Statistics so there is no need for these kind of calculations which appear to be significantly out of line with direct measurements. ©Geni (talk) 13:47, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
That is completely new. I based my calculations from data dumps (taken from https://dumps.wikimedia.org/enwiki) a few years before the number of words statistics were included in Special:Statistics in December 2017. Thank you so much for letting me know. From now on, per WP:OR, my analysis stays with me, not on Wikipedia. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 14:45, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
I have ceased updating the Excel spreadsheet as it served its purpose as a stopgap and is now redundant and inaccurate. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:50, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

between both

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Hi Johnny, happy New Year! You told me that Western songs have never microtone, but it's not true. The first song starts at 0:20, it's between E major and F major, and the second song is between A♭ major and A major, right? 138.229.19.202 (talk) 13:42, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

Some of those are due to distortion, as they were originally recorded on vinyl records. The first is officially in E major (see http://www.musicnotes.com/sheetmusic/mtdFPE.asp?ppn=MN0037336) (though it sounds like F major to me) and the second is officially in G major (see https://www.notediscover.com/song/the-police-every-breath-you-take) (though it sounds like A♭ major to me). Another reason is that if they were to be uploaded on YouTube at the original key and speed, they would be flagged as copyright violations (thus, the uploaders became creative by uploading the songs in a slightly different pitch and tempo to avoid being flagged by YouTube's automated copyright detection algorithms for obvious reasons). Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 17:33, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
No, I think that the second one is officially in A major (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdS-jpFgRo4). 138.229.19.202 (talk) 11:52, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

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Quebec accent in Ontario !

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Hi Johnny! Long time no see! I have two interesting questions. Is there a French second language class once by week in English schools in Ontario ? Are there some teachers who speaks with a Quebec accent there ? 138.229.19.202 (talk) 11:49, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Yes for both questions. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 13:42, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

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Assessment of TYSSE stations

The articles on the TYSSE stations (VMC, Hwy 407, Pioneer Village, YorkU, Finch W, Downsview Park) appear to be better than articles about other TTC stations. Would you consider any of these articles C-class or better at this point? I'm unsure about the difference between start-class and C-class. Username6892 23:08, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

@Username6892: I'll call them C-class. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 23:45, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
Should I update the talk pages then? Username6892 23:46, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
@Username6892: Go ahead. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 23:47, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
Would you recommend some guidelines for me to follow to distinguish start-class and C-class articles? Username6892 23:50, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
@Username6892: Me, if it looks very poorly written without any references or have only few poorly formatted citations, it's Start-class. If it looks decently written with some properly formatted references, it's C-class. Here's a guide: Wikipedia:WikiProject Canada/Assessment#Quality scale Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:01, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Canadian English

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Hi Johnny. As far as I know, the majority of Canadian people pronounce the word "sure" as [ʃɚ], but are there some Canadian people pronounce [ʃɔɹ]? 138.229.19.202 (talk) 17:25, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Yes, but there aren't that many. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:26, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
Non-rhotic is not a real Canadian accent. 138.229.19.202 (talk) 14:55, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
No wonder why there aren't many. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 15:39, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
I have an interesting question, Canadian people understand the non-rhotic accent? When you said the word fork as [fɔːk], they understand anyway? 138.229.19.202 (talk) 16:06, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
Yes. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:10, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
So, many Canadian people understand British accent. Otherwise, French people don't understand Quebec accent, because it's the first time for them. 138.229.19.202 (talk) 01:09, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
That is true. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 15:50, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi Johnny. I understand why, because British accent is a famous accent, for example, Harry Potter. French people don't understand Quebec accent, because there is no Quebec movies in France. 138.229.19.202 (talk) 18:32, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
That too is very much true. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 21:53, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi Johnny. If someone knows that he must say thank you, but he refuses anyway, can we say "he knows that he must say thank you, but no action"? The grammar is correct? 138.229.19.202 (talk) 13:14, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

I prefer "He knows that he must say 'Thank you', but he takes no action." Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 13:49, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

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Hello in Cantonese

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User talk:Johnny Au/Archive7#language, I was asking you whether have you already known to say "hello" in Cantonese, you said no, but I think that you meant that you know to say it, but you refuse. 138.229.19.202 (talk) 14:19, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Well then. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:24, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

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Southern French accent

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  • Normal French accent:
  • Southern French accent :

"Cinquante-cinq", do you feel that the Southern accent sounds like the Quebec accent? 138.229.19.202 (talk) 03:35, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Well almost. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 13:43, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
Quebec French nasal vowels are the same as Southern French accent, so French Southerners understand the Quebec accent. 138.229.19.202 (talk) 14:06, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
True. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:16, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
I already checked, Quebec French nasal vowels are the same as in Southern French, but there is no long vowels in Southern French: pâte is pronounced [pɑːt] in Quebec French, but [pat] in Southern French. If one day, French Southerners will get used to pronounce long vowels, it will sound like a Quebec accent ! 138.229.19.202 (talk) 14:20, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Who knows? Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:13, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
I meant that French southerners imitate Quebec accent easily. 138.229.19.202 (talk) 01:26, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

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F♯ major

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Hi Johnny. I'm not sure that this song is in D♯ minor or F♯ major. The main chord progression is "D♯m B F♯ C♯". 138.229.19.202 (talk) 00:25, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

It's difficult to determine. The song just ends abruptly without an outro or an actual final chord (which is where I usually determine a song's key if I cannot identify the key at the intro or at the beginning of the main section). Not just that, but the song keeps modulating. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:39, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi Johnny. Many songs have the same thing, also "A New Day Has Come". 138.229.19.202 (talk) 13:29, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
True. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:16, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

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Clocks

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Hi Johnny, can we say that this song is in B♭ minor? 138.229.19.202 (talk) 14:50, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

It's officially A♭ major: Clocks (song). However, the YouTube link has it in E♭ major for some reason. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 15:33, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
In fact, there are some chords in B♭ minor. 138.229.19.202 (talk) 15:37, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
Ah. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:49, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi Johnny. 2:57, it's in C♯ major? 138.229.19.202 (talk) 14:17, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
Sounds more like a seventh chord based on C♯ major to me. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 15:54, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

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microtone

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This song is exactly in D minor or between D minor and D♯ minor? 138.229.19.202 (talk) 21:15, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Exactly in D minor. Hint: listen to the piano and strings playing; the electric guitars have a distorted sound effect. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:44, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

1:53 until 2:10, it's between F major and F♯ major? 138.229.19.202 (talk) 01:05, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

It's closer to F♯ major. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:32, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

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Editing news 2020 #1 – Discussion tools

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Screenshot showing what the Reply tool looks like
This early version of the Reply tool automatically signs and indents comments.

The Editing team has been working on the talk pages project. The goal of the talk pages project is to help contributors communicate on wiki more easily. This project is the result of the Talk pages consultation 2019.

Reply tool improved with edit tool buttons
In a future update, the team plans to test a tool for easily linking to another user's name, a rich-text editing option, and other tools.

The team is building a new tool for replying to comments now. This early version can sign and indent comments automatically. Please test the new Reply tool.

  • On 31 March 2020, the new reply tool was offered as a Beta Feature editors at four Wikipedias: Arabic, Dutch, French, and Hungarian. If your community also wants early access to the new tool, contact User:Whatamidoing (WMF).
  • The team is planning some upcoming changes. Please review the proposed design and share your thoughts on the talk page. The team will test features such as:
    • an easy way to mention another editor ("pinging"),
    • a rich-text visual editing option, and
    • other features identified through user testing or recommended by editors.

To hear more about Editing Team updates, please add your name to the "Get involved" section of the project page. You can also watch these pages: the main project page, Updates, Replying, and User testing.

PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 15:45, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

My covers

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Hi Johnny. I was singing in the same key as Rihanna, it's OK? 138.229.19.202 (talk) 00:42, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

If it's you that's singing, that's probably acceptable. It would be best to speak with a lawyer over this. I cannot provide legal advice. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:26, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
Men who sing in the same key as women, it's rare. 138.229.19.202 (talk) 01:54, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
No doubt about that. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:55, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
My falsetto is OK? 138.229.19.202 (talk) 13:56, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
There are many worse than you on YouTube, so you should probably be fine. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:00, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

My normal voice is OK? 138.229.19.202 (talk) 17:17, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

For the purposes of singing covers, yes. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:21, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi Johnny. I feel that this key is between G♯ major and A major, but it's closer to which one? 138.229.19.202 (talk) 00:36, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

The former. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 13:47, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

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Quebec accent

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Hi Johnny. Do you pronounce the word "pâte" as [paːt] with a long vowel? 138.229.19.202 (talk) 14:05, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Yes. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:22, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

I already told you that there are 2 pronunciations of the word « tête » in Quebec French: [teɪ̯t] and [taɪ̯t], but [teɪ̯t] is less exaggerated. 138.229.19.202 (talk) 01:05, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Ah. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:31, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

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key

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Hi Johnny. It's exactly in F♯ major or not? 138.229.19.202 (talk) 15:46, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

It's exactly in F♯ major. I have confirmed it using Audacity. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:38, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Johnny. In fact, the original key is F major, but in our cassette, it changed to F♯ major, but I don't know why. 138.229.19.202 (talk) 13:32, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

The audio cassette contains distortions. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 13:49, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
I think that it's because of the recording. 138.229.19.202 (talk) 14:18, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
Oh. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:08, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Audacity don't always detect accurately. In this song, you heard F major, F♯ major or between both? 138.229.19.202 (talk) 01:19, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

It is in between due to distortion. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:38, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Johnny. I'm sure that the first song is exactly in D minor, but have you heard a nuance in the second song? 138.229.19.202 (talk) 00:10, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

It's slightly nuanced, but it's still D minor (there's piano accompaniment, which made it much easier to determine the key by ear for me). Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:34, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Johnny, is there a nuance? 138.229.19.202 (talk) 14:26, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

The first is in B major. The percussion in the background muddles things up, but the piano accompaniment makes it clear it's in B major. At the 39-second mark of the second, it's a little more nuanced, but I believe that it's an E minor seventh chord. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:28, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Johnny. I know that the verse is in B major, but the chorus is in F♯ major, but do you think that the second video is between B major and C major? 138.229.19.202 (talk) 13:13, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

I have tested transposing to various keys and found out that the second video is practically halfway between B major and C major. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:55, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
When you're only listen to a song, you're sure that it's between two keys, but when you compare to another song, you're sure, right? 138.229.19.202 (talk) 12:47, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
I compare them as thoroughly as possible, but I am busy these days. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:41, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Johnny. The first one is the original version, I feel that it's close to D minor, but the second one is a cassette, I feel that the key is a bit different, you feel that it's closed to D minor or E♭ minor? 138.229.19.202 (talk) 12:45, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

That's correct. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:25, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
But the second one is closer to which key? 138.229.19.202 (talk) 01:23, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
E♭ minor. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:31, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

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I plan on eventually proposing a merge of these 2 articles because I think the 514 is effectively part of the 504's history. The history section of the 504 King article even mentions the opening of the 514. The routes of each line are very similar so most of the prose for the route section of 514 Cherry is already at 504 King. Due to these, as well as a combined prose size of 12,621 (The King Street Transit Priority Corridor is at 12,611), I think the 2 articles should be merged. I would like your opinion on this before I propose this merge.[n 1]
--Username6892 23:11, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

  1. ^ There may be other factors I forgot to consider
@Username6892: Given how similar 514 Cherry is to 504 King, I support the merger. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:37, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
The merger however did not go through. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 14:49, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

COVID-19 Pandemic in Toronto

I've begun a very basic draft of COVID-19 pandemic in Toronto on my Sandbox if you'd like to start contributing to a draft. CaffeinAddict (talk) 15:47, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

@CaffeinAddict: It would be great to have more opinions on this, such as from Vaselineeeeeeee, Sikander, and Zanimum. From my observations, there are plenty to expand on with information already widely available. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:06, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Nice! I'll be happy to help and can focus on the statistics and graphs for the city. // sikander { talk } 🦖 03:05, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Awesome, considering a map of the city with cases has been released this week (City of Toronto COVID-19 cases)! CaffeinAddict (talk) 04:42, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
How opportune. We have everything we need to create such an article and survive AFD. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:16, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Should I submit the article draft for review or just straight up publish it? CaffeinAddict (talk) 16:16, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

@CaffeinAddict: That's completely your decision. My assumption is that AfC would likely quickly accept it (though you should probably move it to Draft:COVID-19 pandemic in Toronto if you do plan on submitting for review). Username6892 16:54, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
Done, created. CaffeinAddict (talk) 17:35, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
The newly created article is looking great. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:27, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
I have added it to my watchlist on a permanent basis and will consistently make frquent edits to it. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:13, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Editing news 2020 #2 – Quick updates

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The new features include a toolbar. What do you think should be in the toolbar?

This edition of the Editing newsletter includes information the Wikipedia:Talk pages project, an effort to help contributors communicate on wiki more easily. The central project page is on MediaWiki.org.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:11, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Editing news 2020 #3

On 16 March 2020, the 50 millionth edit was made using the visual editor on the desktop site.

Seven years ago this week, the Editing team made the visual editor available by default to all logged-in editors using the desktop site at the English Wikipedia. Here's what happened since its introduction:

  • The 50 millionth edit using the visual editor on desktop was made this year. More than 10 million edits have been made here at the English Wikipedia.
  • More than 2 million new articles have been created in the visual editor. More than 600,000 of these new articles were created during 2019.
  • Almost 5 million edits on the mobile site have been made with the visual editor. Most of these edits have been made since the Editing team started improving the mobile visual editor in 2018.
  • The proportion of all edits made using the visual editor has been increasing every year.
  • Editors have made more than 7 million edits in the 2017 wikitext editor, including starting 600,000 new articles in it. The 2017 wikitext editor is VisualEditor's built-in wikitext mode. You can enable it in your preferences.
  • On 17 November 2019, the first Wikipedia edit from outer space was made in the mobile visual editor.
  • In 2019, 35 percent of the edits by newcomers, and half of their first edits, were made using the visual editor. This percentage has been increasing every year since the tool first became available.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 02:06, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

My radio

Collapsed discussion from perpetually blocked user for sockpuppeting per WP:DENY

Hi Johnny, the first one is the normal version, it's in F major, but the second one, it's my radio, the key is a bit different, I'm right? 138.229.19.202 (talk) 00:57, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

I want to understand why the key is change on my radio, but when I'm listening this song in another radio, it's the original key. 138.229.19.202 (talk) 14:42, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Often, music on the radio gets distorted. This depends on the signal and the radio itself. Cheaper radios have more distortion than the more expensive radios because of build quality. Thank you for being honest with me. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:30, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
@Nardog: Please keep tabs on my talk page as well next time Fête shows up here for any reason (the IP address is being blocked for three months for block evasion). Fête knows about the sockpuppet investigation against him even without me notifying him. He probably has that page on his watchlist. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:30, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
Fête's unregistered static IP sockpuppet now blocked for a very long time for abusing multiple accounts (both registered and unregistered) over many years and being blocked for doing so many times. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:45, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Not updating COVID-19 numbers in Ontario anymore?

Just a heads-up. Dr. Universe (talk) 22:54, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Just to let you know, CaffeinAddict mainly does the updating, not me. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:36, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

I pretty much update the infobox every day unless someone gets to it first. Unless you mean the statistics? CaffeinAddict (talk) 02:02, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@Dr. Universe: Can you clarify? Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 13:53, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

The timeline graph only goes up to August 18th and the statistics histogram only goes up to August 23rd. It used to be updated every day! Dr. Universe (talk) 15:03, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@CaffeinAddict: @Johnny Au: Do you see what I'm saying? Dr. Universe (talk) 03:07, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Somebody will do it or not. People are pretty sick of this COVID-19 s**t I doubt people are thrilled to be updating these pages. CaffeinAddict (talk) 05:35, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
I hope so, especially with the second wave occurring very hard, breaking previous provincial records. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 14:03, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
It's being updated once more, albeit very slowly and intermittently, as well as unscheduled, as there are no deadlines to worry about, and the pandemic is far from over (this pandemic is not trivial though and must be heeded seriously). Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:57, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Editing news 2020 #4

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Reply tool

The number of comments posted with the Reply Tool from March through June 2020 in the Arabic Wikipedia. Wikipedians from all editions used the Reply Tool to post over 7,400 comments with this tool.

The Reply tool has been available as a Beta Feature at the Arabic, Dutch, French and Hungarian Wikipedias since 31 March 2020. The first analysis showed positive results.

  • More than 300 editors used the Reply tool at these four Wikipedias. They posted more than 7,400 replies during the study period.
  • Of the people who posted a comment with the Reply tool, about 70 percent of them used the tool multiple times. About 60 percent of them used it on multiple days.
  • Comments from Wikipedia editors are generally positive. One said in Arabic, أعتقد أن الأداة تقدم فائدة ملحوظة؛ فهي تختصر الوقت لتقديم رد بدلًا من التنقل بالفأرة إلى وصلة تعديل القسم أو الصفحة، التي تكون بعيدة عن التعليق الأخير في الغالب، ويصل المساهم لصندوق التعديل بسرعة باستخدام الأداة. ('aetaqid 'ana al'adat taqadam fayidat malhuzat; fahi takhtasir alwaqt litaqdim radi bdlana min altanaqul bialfarat 'iilaa waslat taedil alqism 'aw alsifhati, alty takun baeidatan ean altaeliq al'akhir fi alghalibi, wayasilu almusahim lisunduq altaedil bsret biastikhdam al'adati.) ("I think the tool has a significant impact; it saves time to reply while the classic way is to move with a mouse to the Edit link to edit the section or the page which is generally far away from the comment, and the user reaches to the edit box so quickly to use the Reply tool.")Source

The Editing team released the Reply tool as a Beta Feature at eight other Wikipedias in early August 2020. Those Wikipedias are in the Chinese (Mandarin), Czech, Georgian, Serbian, Sorani Kurdish, Swedish, Catalan, and Korean languages. If you would like to use the Reply tool at your preferred wiki, please contact Whatamidoing (WMF) here.

The Reply tool is still in active development. Per request from the Dutch Wikipedia and other editors, you will be able to customize the edit summary. (The default edit summary is "Reply".) A "ping" feature is available in the Reply tool's visual editing mode. This feature searches for usernames. Per request from the Arabic Wikipedia, each wiki will be able to set its own preferred symbol for pinging editors. Per request from editors at the Japanese and Hungarian Wikipedias, each wiki can define a preferred signature prefix in the page MediaWiki:Discussiontools-signature-prefix. For example, some languages omit spaces before signatures. Other communities want to add a dash or a non-breaking space.

New requirements for user signatures

Next: New discussion tool

Next, the team will be working on a tool for quickly and easily starting a new discussion section to a talk page. To follow the development of this new tool, please put the New Discussion Tool project page on your watchlist.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:48, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Editing news 2021 #1

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Reply tool

Graph of Reply tool and full-page wikitext edit completion rates
Completion rates for comments made with the Reply tool and full-page wikitext editing by junior editors. Details and limitations are in this report.

The Reply tool is available at most other Wikipedias.

Research notes:

  • As of January 2021, more than 3,500 editors have used the Reply tool to post about 70,000 comments.
  • There is preliminary data from the Arabic, Czech, and Hungarian Wikipedia on the Reply tool. Junior Contributors who use the Reply tool are more likely to publish the comments that they start writing than those who use full-page wikitext editing.[2]
  • The Editing and Parsing teams have significantly reduced the number of edits that affect other parts of the page. About 0.3 percent of edits did this during the last month.[3] Some of the remaining changes are automatic corrections for Special:LintErrors.
  • A large A/B test will start soon.[4] This is part of the process to offer the Reply tool to everyone. During this test, half of all editors at 24 Wikipedias (excluding the English Wikipedia) will have the Reply tool automatically enabled, and half will not. Editors at those Wikipedias can still turn it on or off for their own accounts in Special:Preferences.

New discussion tool

Screenshot of version 1.0 of the New Discussion Tool prototype.

The new tool for starting new discussions (new sections) will join the Discussion tools in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures at the end of January. You can try the tool for yourself.[5] You can leave feedback in this thread or on the talk page.

Next: Notifications

During Talk pages consultation 2019, editors said that it should be easier to know about new activity in conversations they are interested in. The Notifications project is just beginning. What would help you become aware of new comments? What's working with the current system? Which pages at your wiki should the team look at? Please post your advice at mw:Talk:Talk pages project/Notifications.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 01:02, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

COVID-19 pandemic in Ottawa

Hi Johnny, it looks like I need some help regarding the new article that is created. The new article is titled COVID-19 pandemic in Ottawa. The article is about the ongoing pandemic that is focused on Canada's capital city of Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. I know you did edit the article COVID-19 pandemic in Toronto. If you have time for some help go to the article titled COVID-19 pandemic in Ottawa and made some edits and the style of the article will be the same for Ottawa's sister article COVID-19 pandemic in Toronto. I hope you will make edits, I am currently making some edits on the Ottawa-related article. I hope you will too. Thanks, Johnny, talk to you soon. Steam5 (talk) 08:45, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

You can also contact CaffeinAddict if he can help with the COVID-19 pandemic in Ottawa page. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 17:19, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
It definitely needs filling out. I never really thought it was necessary because cases have been relatively low, but it is our nation's capital after all. I was trying to do some research on notability when it comes to these things. Of course, there's no real precedent. CaffeinAddict (talk) 18:20, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks and no doubt about that. Ottawa is also Ontario's second-most populous city and metropolitan region, though it has fewer people than Peel Region, which has its own pandemic article as well. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:26, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
It's looking great now. Thanks for the effort. We could create the COVID-19 pandemic in York Region article next. York Region is becoming another hotspot (and is among the most populous census divisions in Ontario, given that like Peel Region, York Region is a suburban regional municipality in the Greater Toronto Area) and I would like to see that article created. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:15, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
The COVID-19 in York Region article has been created, I made some edits to it, and I have the article linked in various navigation templates. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:07, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

FAR for Toronto Raptors

I have nominated Toronto Raptors for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farm Talk 05:21, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

I will take a good look at that. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:45, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
I have pinged more of the regular contributors to the Toronto Raptors article for input as I am obviously not the only person working on the article nor am I the one who made the article featured in the first place. Wikipedia is the work of many contributors, not just one individual contributor. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:14, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
The article is being cleaned up by the regulars whom I pinged, mainly Leventio. Kudos to Leventio who has done an amazing job cleaning up and expanding the article. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:52, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
At least the article is being improved, albeit rather slowly, but well within schedule, which is a slight exception to WP:DEADLINE, as there's actually a deadline for FAR, being several months since being nominated for FAR. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:48, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
The article is now delisted, which makes it a former featured article and has been demoted to B-class given numerous major updates (to the team itself and, subsequently, the article) and lack of maintenance that have caused the article to lose its status, including the Raptors winning their first NBA championship in 2019, which attracted many edits, despite it being semi-protected indefinitely due to frequent vandalism from both Raptors fans and fans of teams that play against the Raptors, especially the latter fandom for obvious reasons. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:40, 26 September 2021 (UTC)