User talk:Johnjonesjr

Top-heavy

I think we are a little top-heavy with the Seventh-Day Adventist books at Book of Daniel#Further reading. My suggestion is that the page should offer (3) of the latest, or most authoritative books, for each acedemic and religious subcategory. It's starting to deviate from WP:NPOV standards by WP suggesting all these books to the audience. Let me know what you think. Thanks, Jasonasosa (talk) 23:04, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As a group, the SDAs have more interest in Daniel and Revelation than any other group that I know of. As a result they have published more books on the topic than anybody else. There are probably about half again as many books that I didn't list. They represent the primary group that still are actual historicists following the original protestant historicism. I'll see which ones I can remove. Some are classic books. and a newer book does not necessarily mean the best. Johnjonesjr (talk) 00:25, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Despite SDAs zeolous interest in Daniel, WP should suggest a balanced amount of material. Jehovah's Witnesses have just as much interest in Daniel and Revelation as the SDAs, so would it be fair to blast all of the books and publications, on these two books, from the Corporations of Jehovah's Witnesses? Just because the SDAs have a lot of books on the subject, doesn't mean they are all knowing on Daniel. WP still has to maintain an WP:NPOV standard and it is up to us editors to uphold that, despite our own preferences or POV. Do you know how hard it was for me to go through all of the views of the mainstream critical analysts? I was upset to find that John J. Collins just sees Daniel as another pseudepigraph, with the plethora of knowledge that he has on this book. But despite my POV, it was good to see how rediculous their thinking is, which actually confirmed my faith in Daniel. Anyway, I agree with you that newer is not always better, that's why I mentioned an authoritative alternative. Thanks, Jasonasosa (talk) 01:47, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I cut the list down to probably the best ones. by-the-by, Ellen is no more POV than any of the rest. Johnjonesjr (talk) 03:30, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good now. Thanks, Jasonasosa (talk) 03:45, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't know ford was linked. I took the list from an earlier edition of the page. Johnjonesjr (talk) 03:53, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I just realized that afterward, sorry. Jasonasosa (talk) 04:28, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I was just wondering if the understanding of Daniel should be put in chronological order. I.e. first Jewish understandings, the early christian, then catholic, then protestant, then counter-reformation and then dispensational and then the enlightenment skeptical..... Johnjonesjr (talk) 17:08, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, that is the typical order. I'm surprised there wasn't much content on the Jewish view to begin with. Maybe someone, one day, will provide more content from that view.Jasonasosa (talk) 01:25, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Historicism

Hi User: Johnjonesjr,

Thank you for your help on the Historicism (Christianity) page. I really appreciate your additions there. That page was suffering and any well rounded help that it can get, I support. - Jasonasosa (talk) 12:21, 14 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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What they hey?

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I'm gone for the weekend and then find myself blocked with no reasons given but that I'm suspected of being a sock for somebody or another whom I don't know. Where's this supposed evidence? This is ridiculous. Johnjonesjr (talk) 19:23, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The evidence is here: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Allenroyboy/Archive. According to that, a checkuser confirmed that this is one of several accounts being used by the same person. ~Amatulić (talk) 19:38, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This is nuts! Confirmed? On what evidence? You guys are making this up.

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Nope. I just reverified. --jpgordon^{::==( o )} 21:34, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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obviously you are guilty unless proven innocent and there is no such thing as innocent. There is no appeal, because ipsofacto you are guilty. Evidence be damned. you are all liers....

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Note to reviewing admin: Yada yada. Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Allenroyboy/Archive. I verified the results. There's no ambiguity. --jpgordon^{::==( o )} 22:57, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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