User talk:John Cummings/Archive 9
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This Month in GLAM: March 2019
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Women in Red focus on the United Nations
Hi John. In April, WiR is focusing on the UN. Do you happen to have any redlists or individual names we can merge into our crowd-sourced list? Perhaps you can also suggest useful biographical resources or directories about people involved in the United Nations or in its various agencies. Our focus may also provide you with an incentive to encourage the active involvement of those at Unesco. Please let me know if you have any other suggestions. Maybe you could also alert some of your Swedish contacts. They seem to have played an important part in extending UN coverage. Please let me know if you have any other suggestions.--Ipigott (talk) 10:31, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- Hi @Ipigott:, sorry to miss your message before. So the main opportunity I can see is to ask sectors and government delegations here for lists of women, the problem is then how to get them into Wikidata. Do you know anyone from WiR would be interested in doing the Wikdiata import? I've quite a few lists for some countries already available, just struggling to import them. John Cummings (talk) 14:48, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hi John. I thought you must have missed my message. I'm not sure whether Wikidata would be helpful at this stage. If you could simply provide some of the names with basic details or sources, we could expand our "crowd-sourced" list. They will be automatically added to Wikidata once we create biographies.--Ipigott (talk) 14:55, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hi @Ipigott: I suggest ingesting into Wikidata as many of the people they have so far suggested are not notable for English Wikipedia but may meet guidelines in other languages, also having them on Wikidata has value in its self. As an example we have now over 9000 Icelandic people (some of the lists we were given were both men and women), most of which I guess would be unsuitable for English Wikipedia but would be great for Icelandic Wikipedia. John Cummings (talk) 18:45, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
Women from UNESCO
Hi John. We're more than half way through the month and as yet I have see no contributions from you in connection with the Women in Red focus on UN organisations. I've noticed your special interest in Icelanders, including Sigríður Ásdís Snævarr. How about tackling Anna Katrin Vilhjalmsdottir or Palina Mattiasdottir - or indeed any of the other ladies listed under UNESCO delegations]? Maybe permanent delegates such as the Ivorian Denise Houphouët-Boigny or the Cuban Dulce Maria Buergo Rodriguez?--Ipigott (talk) 12:23, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
May you join this month's editathons from WiR!
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Facto Post – Issue 23 – 30 April 2019
Facto Post – Issue 23 – 30 April 2019
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 Talk of cloud computing draws a veil over hardware, but also, less obviously but more importantly, obscures such intellectual distinction as matters most in its use. Wikidata begins to allow tasks to be undertaken that were out of easy reach. The facility should not be taken as the real point. Coming in from another angle, the "executive decision" is more glamorous; but the "administrative decision" should be admired for its command of facts. Think of the attitudes ad fontes, so prevalent here on Wikipedia as "can you give me a source for that?", and being prepared to deal with complicated analyses into specified subcases. Impatience expressed as a disdain for such pedantry is quite understandable, but neither dirty data nor false dichotomies are at all good to have around. Issue 13 and Issue 21, respectively on WP:MEDRS and systematic reviews, talk about biomedical literature and computing tasks that would be of higher quality if they could be made more "administrative". For example, it is desirable that the decisions involved be consistent, explicable, and reproducible by non-experts from specified inputs. What gets clouded out is not impossibly hard to understand. You do need to put together the insights of functional programming, which is a doctrinaire and purist but clearcut approach, with the practicality of office software. Loopless computation can be conceived of as a seamless forward march of spreadsheet columns, each determined by the content of previous ones. Very well: to do a backward audit, when now we are talking about Wikidata, we rely on integrity of data and its scrupulous sourcing: and clearcut case analyses. The MEDRS example forces attention on purge attempts such as Beall's list.
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This Month in GLAM: April 2019
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Facto Post – Issue 24 – 17 May 2019
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Two dozen issues, and this may be the last, a valediction at least for a while. It's time for a two-year summation of ContentMine projects involving TDM (text and data mining). Wikidata and now Structured Data on Commons represent the overlap of Wikimedia with the Semantic Web. This common ground is helping to convert an engineering concept into a movement. TDM generally has little enough connection with the Semantic Web, being instead in the orbit of machine learning which is no respecter of the semantic. Don't break a taboo by asking bots "and what do you mean by that?" The ScienceSource project innovates in TDM, by storing its text mining results in a Wikibase site. It strives for compliance of its fact mining, on drug treatments of diseases, with an automated form of the relevant Wikipedia referencing guideline MEDRS. Where WikiFactMine set up an API for reuse of its results, ScienceSource has a SPARQL query service, with look-and-feel exactly that of Wikidata's at query.wikidata.org. It also now has a custom front end, and its content can be federated, in other words used in data mashups: it is one of over 50 sites that can federate with Wikidata. The human factor comes to bear through the front end, which combines a link to the HTML version of a paper, text mining results organised in drug and disease columns, and a SPARQL display of nearby drug and disease terms. Much software to develop and explain, so little time! Rather than telling the tale, Facto Post brings you ScienceSource links, starting from the how-to video, lower right.
The review tool requires a log in on sciencesource.wmflabs.org, and an OAuth permission (bottom of a review page) to operate. It can be used in simple and more advanced workflows. Examples of queries for the latter are at d:Wikidata_talk:ScienceSource project/Queries#SS_disease_list and d:Wikidata_talk:ScienceSource_project/Queries#NDF-RT issue. Please be aware that this is a research project in development, and may have outages for planned maintenance. That will apply for the next few days, at least. The ScienceSource wiki main page carries information on practical matters. Email is not enabled on the wiki: use site mail here to Charles Matthews in case of difficulty, or if you need support. Further explanatory videos will be put into commons:Category:ContentMine videos. If you wish to receive no further issues of Facto Post, please remove your name from our mailing list. Alternatively, to opt out of all massmessage mailings, you may add Category:Wikipedians who opt out of message delivery to your user talk page.
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June events with WIR
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--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:42, 22 May 2019 (UTC) via MassMessaging
Drafts
It is not a good idea to move drafts to mainspace outside the AfCH method; though it is possible to do it technically, this does not clear up the previous versions the way the AfCH macro does. It leaves the original draft still in draftspace, where it will get reviewed as if it had not been moved, and confuse the reviewers--I tried to accept it, but could not because of the matching names, and reviewer declined to accept it, because it appeared a duplicate.
Worse: when you moved Stefan Kaiser (German sculptor), you apparently did so in a copy-past move, that also destroyed the attribution necessary when moving things in WP. The article after you moved it appeared in the page history as your work, but it was not entirely or even principally your own work, but that of another editor, AlmaMaK. This is a copyvio violation, and to correct it, it is now necessary to merge the page histories, which is a surprisingly complicated business, that I may need to get help with if I can not find some simple workaround.
It is very true, that the previous review by a new reviewer was not a correct review (and I shall try to explain it to that editor) .. But the proper remedy is to resubmit it, when it will normally get another review which is likely to be more perceptive, or to ask for help with it. I am
I am not particularly patient with some of the WP over-technical procedures myself, any more than I am prepared to tolerate low quality reviewing that keeps out good articles, and will sometimes use a shortcut. But when I do, I know to clean up after myself and how to keep the edit history.
And, btw, according tot WP:MOS, the name for this article should be Stefan Kaiser (sculptor). -- and it is also necessary to disambiguate the two people with the appropriate hatnote. .
I'll take responsibility for cleaning this all up. DGG ( talk ) 00:07, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
- Hi @DGG:, I'm sorry this has caused issues, I was not aware that it would make problems. It would be extremely helpful if these issues were documented somewhere visible so that people who are trying help don't make things difficult for others. Where do you think this could be done and what do you think it should say? Thanks again
- John Cummings (talk) 17:33, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
- this summer there is likely to be for some substantial rewriting of the afch macro and associated procedures. But I will summarize this now on the AfC talk p. And perhaps ask me a question about this on my own talk. Many of the active afc people will see it . DGG ( talk ) 18:52, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
- Sounds sensible, thanks a lot. John Cummings (talk) 20:02, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
- this summer there is likely to be for some substantial rewriting of the afch macro and associated procedures. But I will summarize this now on the AfC talk p. And perhaps ask me a question about this on my own talk. Many of the active afc people will see it . DGG ( talk ) 18:52, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
This Month in GLAM: May 2019
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July events from Women in Red!
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This Month in GLAM: June 2019
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August 2019 at Women in Red
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The article Jeremy Ganger has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
Not notable before attack, WP:ONEEVENT
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This Month in GLAM: July 2019
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WikiProject Climate change
Hi John. I know you have a deep sense of urgency about climate change. I thought you might be interested in this:
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September 2019 at Women in Red
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This Month in GLAM: August 2019
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October Events from Women in Red
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--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:35, 23 September 2019 (UTC) via MassMessaging
FYI
File:National Library manuscripts being washed in Florence after the 1966 flood of the Arno - UNESCO - PHOTO 0000001407 0001 - Restoration.jpg just passed WP:FPC, see Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/1966 flood of the Arno. Scheduling for the main page hasn't been decided, but 3rd November would be a likely date. MER-C 17:39, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
- @MER-C:, amazing, thanks, do you think there are any other images in that collection that would be good for FPC? John Cummings (talk) 10:25, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
- File:UNESCO History, Roger Caillois - UNESCO - PHOTO0000002654 0001 (cropped).tiff, File:Literacy - UNESCO - PHOTO0000000077 0001.tiff. Like File:National Library manuscripts being washed in Florence after the 1966 flood of the Arno - UNESCO - PHOTO 0000001407 0001 - Restoration.jpg, they will need a touchup to repair the scratches and a crop to remove the border to meet FP standards. I'm sure there are a few more that are potential FPs once they find a use in articles. MER-C 10:55, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
- Great, thanks @MER-C:, is there a list somewhere that shows the order of upcoming images for featured picture? John Cummings (talk) 15:13, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Picture of the day/Archive (which despite its name also shows forthcoming POTDs). MER-C 15:15, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks @MER-C:, looks like it doesn't have a date yet. John Cummings (talk) 15:57, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Picture of the day/Archive (which despite its name also shows forthcoming POTDs). MER-C 15:15, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
- Great, thanks @MER-C:, is there a list somewhere that shows the order of upcoming images for featured picture? John Cummings (talk) 15:13, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
- File:UNESCO History, Roger Caillois - UNESCO - PHOTO0000002654 0001 (cropped).tiff, File:Literacy - UNESCO - PHOTO0000000077 0001.tiff. Like File:National Library manuscripts being washed in Florence after the 1966 flood of the Arno - UNESCO - PHOTO 0000001407 0001 - Restoration.jpg, they will need a touchup to repair the scratches and a crop to remove the border to meet FP standards. I'm sure there are a few more that are potential FPs once they find a use in articles. MER-C 10:55, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
This Month in GLAM: September 2019
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New Wikimedian in Residence table
A new wikimedian in residence table should soon be implemented based on data from outreach:Wikimedian_in_residence (draft table). If there are any WiRs you know that are missing, please add them. In the meantime, see the map! T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)talk 08:48, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
November 2019 at Women in Red
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This Month in GLAM: October 2019
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