User talk:JohnRobertsly

March 2007

1. Please stop. If you continue to vandalise Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing. --h2g2bob 07:20, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Defamation on the Michael Jackson Talk Page

If you continue to post defamation I will make strong recommendations for you to be blocked for a considerable period of time. Leave your opinions for someone who cares; wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a discussion forum. --Paaerduag 11:50, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

This is your last warning. If you continue to make personal attacks on other people, you will be blocked for disruption. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people.

also [[1]] "Signing your posts on talk pages and other Wikipedia discourse (but not on articles) is not only good etiquette; it also facilitates discussion by helping other users to identify the author of a particular comment, to navigate talk pages, and to address specific comments to the relevant user(s), among other things. Discussion is an important part of collaborative editing as it helps other users to understand the progress and evolution of a work."

--Xiahou 22:44, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Please consider making constructive contributions.

I'm posting this on your talk page to encourage you make constructive contributions. You have been posting disruptive and offensive comments. Those comments are generally not welcome and have no place here at Wikipedia. Also the manner in which you are stating your point of view is generally hostile. Hopefully after reading this page you will have a chance to reflect on your contributions to Wikipedia. Good luck on your future posts. --ProperManner 05:38, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Recommended reading for user JohnRobertsly, part 1.

Civility is a code for the conduct of editing and writing edit summaries, comments, and talk page discussions on all Wikipedias. Whereas incivility is roughly defined as personally targeted behavior that causes an atmosphere of greater conflict and stress, our code of civility states plainly that people must act with civility toward one another.

Our Wikipedia community has by experience developed an informal hierarchy of core principles — the most important being that articles be written with a neutral point of view. After that we request a reasonable degree of civility towards others. "Civility" is the only principle that we can apply to online conduct, and it's the only reasonable way to delimit acceptable conduct from the unacceptable. We cannot always expect people to love, honor, obey, or even respect one another. But we have every right to demand civility.

Problem
Visitors are invited to improve the text in Wikipedia. But often there are differences of opinion on whether a change in text is an "improvement". When editors weigh the pros and cons of whether a change is an improvement, it may be difficult to criticize text without being subjective about the situation. Editors, in trying to be clear, can be unnecessarily harsh on the giving end. Conversely, on the receiving end, editors can be oversensitive when they see what they wrote replaced by something that claims to be "better", despite it being the opposite of what they wrote.

Silent and faceless words on Talk pages and Edit summaries do not transmit the nuances of verbal conversation, leading to small, facetious comments being misinterpreted. One uncivil remark can easily escalate into a heated discussion which may not be focused objectively on the problem at hand. It is during these exchanges that community members may become uninterested in improving articles and instead focus on "triumphing" over the "enemy".

Examples
Petty examples that contribute to an uncivil environment:

• Rudeness
• Judgmental tone in edit summaries ("fixed sloppy spelling", "snipped rambling crap")
• Belittling contributors because of their language skills or word choice
• Ill-considered accusations of impropriety of one kind or another (cite as WP:CIV#ICA)
• Starting a comment with: "Not to make this personal, but..."
• Calling someone a liar, or accusing him/her of slander or libel. Even if true, such remarks tend to aggravate rather than resolve a dispute.

More serious examples include:

• Taunting
• Personal attacks
  • Racial, ethnic, sexual, and religious slurs
  • Profanity directed at another contributor
• Lies
• Defacing user pages
• Giving users derogatory names via Pagemove vandalism
• Calling for bans or blocks
• Indecent suggestions

Incivility happens, for example, when you are quietly creating a new page, and another user tells you, If you're going to write a pointless page, could you spell-check it?.
Escalation occurs when you reply, Mind your own business.

This style of interaction between Wikipedians drives away contributors, distracts others from more important matters, and weakens the entire community.

Recommended reading for user JohnRobertsly, part 2.

Removing uncivil comments.

• Strike offensive words or replace them with milder ones on talk pages (this is often seen as controversial, as is refactoring other people's words)
• Remove offensive comments on talk pages (since they remain in the page history, anyone can find them again or refer to them later on)
• Revert an edit with &bot=1, so that the edit made by the offender appears invisible in Recent Changes (do-able on ip contributions, requires technical help for logged-in user)
• Delete (entirely and permanently) an edit made by the offender (requires technical help)
• Permanently delete an offensive comment made on the mailing lists (requires technical help)
• Replace a comment made in an edit summary by another less offensive comment (requires technical help)

Caution the offender

This is a clear case of ongoing incivility. --ProperManner 05:38, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Blocked

You have been blocked as a sockpuppet of User:HarveyCarter; see Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/HarveyCarter. If you believe this block is unjustified you may contest this block by replying here on your talk page by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}}. You may also email the blocking administrator or any administrator from this list instead, or mail unblock-en-l@mail.wikimedia.org. --Akhilleus (talk) 20:08, 20 April 2007 (UTC)