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JohnHeggelund (talk) 20:05, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

I work for Children at Risk. They would like to have a wikipedia page. They would also like the wikipedia page to correspond with their website so as not to create consistency issues. Do we have to write a completely new description of the journal just to have a wiki and a website?

In the future sign your messages with ~~~~ so I can talk back to you directly.

You can't copy and paste. That's a huge no-no. In general we do not accept things that only come from the official website because it leaves questions of neutrality and notability because if we let anybody post anything they wanted about themselves on Wikipedia I would be a multibillionaire that solved world hunger and it would be true because I have my own website which says exactly that. It's only a slight exaggeration we get those people here on a regular basis.

Not having third party sources talk about your subject in your article also raises the question of it's notability. If it's notable, then reputable newspapers, magazines, media outlets will be talking about it. You have to use what they say, not in verbatim though because again copyright violations, in an article. You can't say what your company is saying, you can use it to list facts, but very sparingly.

This guideline and this guideline will provide more detailed rules in better prose than I can create, and should also prove the points I make. The latter details the process needed to donate information. You may have already done it in a way but it needs to be ridiculously visible on every page in order for you to be able to use it, and it will still raise questions of neutrality, so normally it is just better to use official stuff as sparingly as possible. I know your group wants the Wiki page to correspond with their website, but that just raises too many red flags for us as a scholarly source that you're going to have to abandon that. I'm sorry.

If whoever asked you to do this is not happy with this response, have them come straight to... well... my talk page. I'll sort it out. hewhoamareismyself 20:30, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

I would like to apologize for my seeming frustration concerning the Journal of Applied Research on Children submission. I understand the necessity for valid sources and the meticulousness of the editors has improved my faith in Wikipedia's validity as a source itself. I will work to provide the type of article you attempt to foster here, and look forward to collecting the many 3rd party reviews of, and references to, Children at Risk in one space. Thank you to everyone that has lead to me to this better decision. -- JohnHeggelund (talk)

You're allowed to cite yourself sparingly by these guidelines I think both should work to fit your case, but please make the effort to find third party sources that say the same thing.

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