User talk:JohnBird4Freo

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The Wikipedia tutorial is a good place to start learning about Wikipedia. If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question to the village pump or ask me on my talk page. By the way, you can sign your name on Talk and discussion pages using four tildes, like this: ~~~~ (the software will replace them with your signature and the date). Again, welcome! AntiDionysius (talk) 09:11, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, JohnBird4Freo. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for article subjects for more information. We ask that you:

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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicizing, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. AntiDionysius (talk) 09:11, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks AntiDionysius - very kind of you to reply. The trouble is this Wikipedia entry for Australian Citizens Party was set up in Wikipedia's early days by an ex-staff member of Australian Citizens Party who went to work as a staffer for the National party. It is filled with vitriol and rudeness. It needs cleaning up and can't merely be added to. Best wishes John JohnBird4Freo (talk) 09:19, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nonetheless, your conflict of interest means you shouldn't edit it directly. If you think material should be changed or removed, you should request that on Talk:Australian Citizens Party. You'll need to explain why any removal is justified, especially when material is supported by sources. Your edits have not so far done that, which is why I reverted them. AntiDionysius (talk) 09:24, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks AntiDionysus (Anti-first bishop of Athens? What does it mean?) I really don't mind who does it. It's just that allegations of brainwashing, conspiracy and sexual impropriety are really unhelpful. It's certainly true that many ACP doctrines won't appear on CNN, but that just means "non-mainstream" and doesn't merit vitriol. Will Talk"Australian Citizens Party " do the job? Best wishes John JohnBird4Freo (talk) 09:34, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No problem (it's a perhaps overly-obscure reference to Dionysius I of Syracuse as featured in the story of The Sword of Damocles).

Yep, head on over to the talk page and explain what you'd like changed and why, and someone will pick it up. There's a guide to such requests here if you'd like some guidance, but it's pretty intuitive: here's who I am and what my relation to the subject is, here's what I think should be changed, here's why (with reference to sources if necessary). Best of luck! AntiDionysius (talk) 09:39, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much I'll give it a try. What happens when after I propose these changes and why? JohnBird4Freo (talk) 09:44, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello AntiDionysius I've written in Talk:Australian Citizens Party as you suggested. Could you check I've done it right (as you've probably discerned I'm a complete novice with Wikipedia, but I'm amazed this Wikipedia ACP entry got accepted and has come this far). What happens next?.. Best wishes JohnBird4Freo (talk) 04:46, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]