User talk:Johannes Schade/Archive 2

Archive 1

Archive 2

Rock of Ages

Well, I was born in Michigan in 1945 and the namesake of General Douglas MacArthur. My wife was born in Groningen in 1943. So we are older than you. We am retired living in Ludington, Michigan. I was an electronics technician most of my life.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:16, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

June GOCE newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors June 2022 Newsletter Hello and welcome to the June 2022 newsletter, a quarterly digest of Guild activities since April 2022. Don't forget you can unsubscribe at any time; see below. Blitz: of the 16 editors who signed up for our April Copy Editing Blitz, 12 completed at least one copy-edit, and between them removed 21 articles from the copy-editing backlog. Barnstars awarded are here. Drive: 27 editors signed up for our May Backlog Elimination Drive; of these, 20 copy-edited at least one article. 144 articles were copy-edited, and 88 articles from our target months August and September 2021 were removed from the backlog. Barnstars awarded are here. Blitz: our June Copy Editing Blitz, starting at 00:01, 19 June and closing at 00:59, 25 June (UTC), will focus on articles tagged for copy edit in September and October 2021, and requests from March, April and May 2022. Barnstars awarded will be posted here. Progress report: As of 07:12, 14 June 2022 (UTC), GOCE copyeditors have completed 209 requests since 1 January and the backlog stands at 1,404 articles. Election news: Nominations for our half-yearly Election of Coordinators continues until 23:50 on 15 June (UTC), after which, voting will commence until 23:59, 30 June (UTC). All Wikipedians in good standing (active and not blocked, banned, or under ArbCom or community sanctions) are eligible and self-nominations are welcomed. Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Reidgreg, Baffle gab1978, Dhtwiki, Miniapolis and Tenryuu To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

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Bet You Didn't Know

Thanks for leaving behind clues for improving Thomas Hall (mechanic). I am going to work on those guideline between my GANs. Eventually I will get them all done and then I will resubmit the article as a Good Article nomination.

It so happens that the terms of "upper-case" and "lower-case" come from the eighteenth century when Benjamin Franklin set up printing franchises. It is not a "modern" term (i.e. twentieth century). It is common today in the United States to say, "capital letters" and "small sizes" or "large letters" and "small letters"; however "upper-case" and "lower-case" are very old terms. I have tested this on schoolchildren and they know the term "capital letters" and "small sizes", however they do not know where "upper-case" and "lower-case" came from. This is a picture I took in Colonial Williamsburg when I visited it in 2013. The idea of "upper-case" and "lower-case" comes from the 1700s. I think in this case I will stay with what I wrote printed 72 letters in both capital letters and small sizes because the source says "printing seventy-two characters in large and small letters."

If you have other guidelines other than what you left behind as I am making the improvements you suggersted, feel free to drop me a note. I am going to try to get this article up to Good Article standards and then will resubmit GAN. Thanks. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:11, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

P.S. - The "upper-case" and "lower-case" picture I showed you above came from the reconstructed 18th century print shop of William Parks to show how he did printing. Here are more pictures of Parks' print shop. Notice how many pictures show the "upper-case" and "lower-case". William Parks (May 23, 1699 – April 1, 1750) was an 18th-century printer.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:47, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Dear Doug, nice to hear from you. I agree of course that the uppercase and lowercase has its roots in printing and long ago, but the words uppercase and lowercase are only used widely in British and American English since 1960 as Google Ngrams show. But if you want tomstay with capital and small letter that is surely also fine.

• Bet You Didn't Know I resubmitted Thomas Hall (mechanic) for GAN. I did the best I could to follow your guidelines for improvements. Thanks for the ideas. You can of course copy edit it or give me any further suggestions. Check this out on the pantograph principle on page 15 three-quarters down.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:58, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Dear Doug. Thanks for your note about the pantograph with the one-click link to the book open on the right page. How nice of you to take such care! I see Oden writes "embodied the pantograph principle, operated with one hand by means of a stylus." Unluckily Oden does not give any detail about how the pantograph principle was used in the machine, and I think his bit about the stylus is wrong or at least very misleading. Hall's instructions do not call it a "stylus" but a "handle" and it looks like one. I would ignore this part of Oden's paragraph about Hall or discuss it and say it is unconvincing or something like that. On the other hand it would be a pity not to cite Oden for something. We do not have that many sources. Also, if you do not cite Oden, some other editor might discover this source later and use it to demolish your article. As you have the URL for Oden, why do you not give it in the description of the source? The next reviewer would certainly be pleased to have the URLs of the sources at hand. Admittedly, it seems that many Wikipedians leave them out just like you did. I do not understand why. As a reviewer I waste considerable time to find them and often in vain. Besides, what is "Bet you didn't know?" I know about "Did you know" (DYK) but not this one. Thanks and best regards, Johannes Schade (talk) 07:57, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

Lyfing...

I'm sorry if you thought my silence was something against you... it was merely that we're having some ... weather issues... here and I've been busy with that. A lot of thunderstorms coming through which with our animals means that a lot of checking the fences and making sure they aren't in danger. And that, combined with other stuff, has just meant I've been busy off wiki! I'll get to your suggestions within the next day or two... since it looks like we're going to be dry for a day or two at least! Ealdgyth (talk) 14:23, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Dear Ealdgyth. Thank you for your kind message. I understand your weather issues at least a bit because we had a dog who went crazy at each thunderstorm. That was when we were living in South Africa. Here, in Ireland, thunderstorms are rare. I am a bit tired of Wikipedia in the moment. I have a problem with an editor who came along and is busy rewriting a biographical article to which I had contributed heavily. Hardly anything remains of what I had done. He re-arranged the overall structure, changed the way I cite, deleted whole sections. Of course, he quite often has a point, but somehow it hurts. It seems to be difficult to discuss his changes with him. Sometimes he simply ignores me. I would be keen to hear what you think about my suggestions for Lyfing. Keep well, Johannes Schade (talk) 07:28, 17 June 2022 (UTC)