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Tack! (Och Ceve Linde)

Tjenare! Måste bara tacka för ett utomordentligt jobb med alla artiklar som berör IFK Göteborg, både nu och genom åren! Bara att lyfta på hatten. Har på senare år försökt bidra lite med säsongsartiklar, hålla trupper och spelarartiklar någorlunda uppdaterade osv. Men på grund av studier har jag tyvärr inte tid att bidra med så mycket ren text. Har bara en liten fundering om din fina artikel om Ceve. Vore det egentligen inte vettigt att flytta den till a) "Carl Linde (football administrator)" eller b) "Ceve Linde" (enligt WP:COMMONNAME)? Har var ju inte direkt en "manager", åtminstone inte med dagens mått mätt. // Mattias321 (talk) 12:04, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Tack och tack själv @Mattias321! Jag har lite samma problem fast gör tvärt om, har inte speciellt mycket tid så undviker att försöka lägga den på att göra alla småuppdateringar utan försöker istället samla ihop den tid jag har till något större (och det jag mest gillar att göra, skriva mycket ny text). Så jag är väldigt glad att någon annan gör det andra grovjobbet och håller spelarlistor och liknande uppdaterade! :) Jag håller kanske med om att "football administrator" passar bättre, jag funderade en del över det när jag skapade artikeln. Samtidigt var han inte riktigt en organisatör på det sättet utan höll sig gärna närmare sporten än styrelserummet, så sett. Vad gäller "Ceve" så kollade jag runt en del och majoriteten av encyklopedier, referensverk och andra listningar har honom listad som "Carl Linde", ibland "Carl Linde (Ceve)", "Carl 'Ceve' Linde" o.s.v., det är mest i löptext eller informella sammanhang "Ceve Linde" används, så jag gick på det helt enkelt. Har lite nytt material om Ceve så om jag får tid att lägga på det så kanske jag orkar ta tag i att fundera igenom och kanske flytta artikeln till "Carl Linde (football administrator)". Men lägger mest den tid jag har haft det senaste halvåret på att göra ett nästan totalt omtag på huvudartikeln om IFK, finns i min sandbox User:Johan Elisson/sandbox4 om du är nyfiken. – Elisson • T • C • 18:22, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Ah, förståeligt! Otroligt bra jobb med huvudartikeln! Flera avsnitt har helt klart varit i behov av förbättring. En sak jag har funderat lite på är att flera spelare i dagens trupp (även historiskt, såklart) skulle förtjäna en mer uppdaterad bild. Tänker inte minst på Sebastian Eriksson, Robin Söder, Tobias Sana och Mattias Bjärsmyr. Trots flera år på Wikipedia är uppladdning av bilder en ganska blind fläck för mig. Har du några tips på var man kan hitta bra bilder som inte bryter mot diverse copyright-regler? // Mattias321 (talk) 10:46, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Tack! Bilder är generellt inte något jag har orkat ge mig in på i och med att det är lite svårare att få fram fritt användbara, så lite samma som du. Eftersom jag mest håller mig till historiska saker är det också lite enklare då det finns större chans att bilder blivit fritt tillgängliga. "Enklaste" alternativet är att själv plåta lite på en träning eller liknande. – Elisson • T • C • 19:56, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Apologies

I never meant to indicate your behavior was toxic. I have clarified my remarks. --dashiellx (talk) 11:12, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

No worries, I sort of understood it wasn't directed at me specifically. – Elisson • T • C • 19:29, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

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I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hello, Johan Elisson

Thank you for creating Centralföreningen för Gymnastik- och Idrottssällskapen i Göteborg.

User:Kudpung, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

Your article has passed our review. Please see the changes I made: 'References' and 'Bibliography'. This will avoid the article being tagged as having no sources.

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Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 22:58, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Kudpung! Thank you for the review, though I do not fully agree with the change of headings. It rather seems that ORES needs to be improved as MOS:NOTES allows for the variant I used in the article. I've also used it previously without problem, e.g. for featured articles and various DYK articles, see example usage at Carl Linde (football manager) (with "Footnotes" as an additional heading for explanatory notes). "Bibliography" doesn't really make sense, when one of the books listed there is some 270 pages of which about half a page concerns the article subject. – Elisson • T • C • 23:13, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

As you wish, but there are more common ways of configuring article formats (see Heading names). Reviewing new pages is a thankless task and ORES flags in the NewPagesFeed naturally make more work for reviewers - that's what they are for. You are most welcome to suggest improvements to ORES, you can list it at Page Curation/Suggested improvements, or as it doesn't need a debate, even open a ticket directly at Phab although I'm not sure if the huge development project of ORES is still ongoing. As an admin, you are equally welcome to help out at the massive NPP backlog. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:33, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

PS: Dicdef: Bibliography: a list of the books referred to in a scholarly work, typically printed as an appendix. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:49, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

@Kudpung: I'm sorry you felt offended by my reply. Yes, there are more common formats, but your variant isn't one of the more common formats either. Changing it solely because an automated tool cannot recognise citations even though they clearly are there seems like a thankless job (and is not in line with MOS:VAR). I'm not the one directly affected by it, and with my limited knowledge of WP:PAGCUR and WP:ORES, it would seem more logical for you to report it as you know your way around it and is likely to be more disturbed by it. Quickly checking the new pages feed, it seems quite common for articles to be marked "No citations" when the article uses short citations.

I am grateful that you and others are devoting time to new pages patrol, more so because you need to deal with people like me (or worse ...) from time to time. I would love to help but with my very limited time available for Wikipedia, I have made the conscious decision to put as much of the time I have available into creating content rather than using my mop (time was not a problem when I originally got it).

Again, thank you for reviewing, I do appreciate your work! I'll revert back, and let's hope ORES improves. :) – Elisson • T • C • 11:04, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

I didn't feel offended at all - nowadays at NPP we discover that the vast majority of new articles are are submitted by very new users and and non native speakers with very low levels of English. For many years I was dedicated to the tools and scripts that deal with improvement and deletion. I wouldn't argue however with someone who knows their way round MoS better than I do. I co-designed the NPP system we use these days but it was mainly to address its use by less experienced patrollers, to encourage new users to format their pages correctly and to provide sources, and most importantly to enhance the detection and prevention of totally inappropriate pages from entering Wikipedia. Sadly I'm now in my twilight years and don't generally have the time to dedicate to Wikipedia as I did during the many years I had a mop. Take care. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:35, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

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Uppdatering om IFK Göteborg

Hej @Johan! Hoppas det är fint med dig. Såg att artikeln om IFK Göteborg tyvärr har blivit av med sin stämpel som featured. Vet att du har arbetat med ett stort omtag på artikeln. Även om du själv skulle känna att vissa delar fortfarande saknas tycker jag definitivt att det är läge att sjösätta din nya version, och åter försöka göra artikeln till featured. // Mattias321 (talk) 22:48, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Hej @Mattias! Det är bra med mig, men har tyvärr haft noll tid över för Wikipedia den senaste tiden och har inte kikat in här i år tidigare. :( Men i och med detta kanske jag kan få lite eld i röven att försöka färdigställa de saknade delarna! – Elisson • T • C • 17:25, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

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