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Regarding: How can I define search terms for a page?

Hello,

Thank you kindly for responding to my question about assigning search terms to the Kyoto University of Advanced Science's wiki page.

I found it peculiar when you mentioned that this search had been functioning correctly for over a decade because the Kyoto University of Advanced Science wasn't named such until just last year. However, when I searched for the acronym "KUAS" myself, I see another university in China that has the same acronym.

I do not get any search results for the Kyoto University of Advanced Science when searching for "KUAS".

How can I proceed?

--Decius Varro (talk) 05:40, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Decius Varro, I'm afraid that the solution would be to recreate the KUAS page as a disambiguation page. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:48, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Further, I should apologize for failing to notice that the target of the KUAS redirect was not the same institution that you were originally asking about. Another alternative is to add a WP:hatnote to the Chinese university page that points to Kyoto University of Advanced Science. But I should warn you that this is a relatively minor concern compared to the fact that your translated page is in serious danger of being tagged for deletion because you have not provided notability references. Work on that first. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:02, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

I did some googling on the topic of "notability references", and I understand that need to provide secondary sources on the page, such as articles referencing research at the university, etc.

These notability references ought to be integrated into the text on the page as citations, correct? if so, I will need to expand the article before I can add such references.

I should note that, until I began updating the page in June, the name of the university was incorrect and the article was a stub. It was allowed to languish in this state for many years.

--Decius Varro (talk) 06:58, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

@Decius Varro: makes it sound unloved. Well, once you find some appropriate references, you may find yourself rewriting the page entirely, based on what the references say, rather than in any sense 'expanding' it. Ideally we replace anything the institution had to say about itself with whatever these independent references say about it. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

I agree. I think that can be contributed to the academic mission of the university before 2019, which did not focus on internationalization. Since then, the school's new chairman has rebuilt and renamed the university. This included the hiring of bilingual staff capable of amateur attempts at editing a wiki page. :^)

Another general question about citations: It is an English-language page. Should I attempt to use English-language citations wherever possible?

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Decius Varro (talk) 07:45, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Decius Varro, Yes, on en-wiki, English language references should be used in preference to non-English, assuming that they are comparable in the sense of independence, reliable, etc. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:06, 25 June 2020 (UTC)