User talk:Jerzy/Jerzy & Superm401

(This approach to Wiki-talk (using two templates) is an experiment; i've so far imposed upon a number of colleagues with it, who have responded thru it (even without this 'graph) well enough that i can describe it as "working" (though an otherwise angry one nevertheless described it as "ridiculous"). My hope is that it will slow the growth of my talk page, make my archiving simpler and more timely, and thus make leaving talk for me less burdensome (especially for slow-pipe colleagues) than it has been for too many months. I cordially invite discussion of it (or one-shot comments, from those who prefer).)

If you add to this discussion, most other participant(s) won't be nearly as quickly aware of that as they would, if you had also edited their respective talk page(s). (A link to the corresponding section of each is at their corresponding "*" below, and your updating the edit count and editing-time-stamp range there also gives that participant further information. But no one other than i has done so yet.) For my own notification, i've started a list that i can check via "Related changes" more often than i am willing to check my Watchlist or "My contributions", tho of course that is still less often than "You have new messages."

• 6 msgs, 17:37, 12 thru 04:49, 14 July 2005
  1. 17:37, 13 July 2005 J
  2. 17:44, 13 July 2005 S
  3. 22:06, 13 July 2005 J
  4. 22:25, 13 July 2005 S
  5. 01:14, 14 July 2005 J
  6. 04:49, 14 July 2005 J
• 2 participants: Jerzy·t·c·*; Superm401·t·c·*.
• general topic(s): Wikipedia techniques
• previous history of contributions moved here is at Talk:List of people by name

• I recognized yr user-name, and thus noticed i had done a "rm non-bio lks & micro-bios" tuning of an LoPbN page that you'd edited, and struck a few of yr words. (In fact, the occasion for noticing the whole page needed it was my opinion that your welcome contribution did.) Thus you may (quite appropriately) have an agenda that i failed to address adequately, when i never explicitly stated the three most important functions of LoPbN entries: navigation, navigation, and navigation. This is the subject of the extensive discussion several of us have in progress on a subpage [please ignore this second route which no longer offers any efficiency] (the one referenced[[#What Belongs in an Entry besides the Link?|above on this page]] ). Your input is of course welcome there.

--Jerzy·t 17:37 & 22:06, 13, & 04:49, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

• You are astute in noticing that I did indeed edit a LoPbN page. I split Jonathan Blanchard into two articles. Following that, I checked "What links here" and realized that the names page did. Therefore, I split the listing and piped the links appropriately. You are also correct that that is how I found the pages(though I may have seen them before). However, I don't really care what happens to those entries now, and I wouldn't say it's a related issue. Your corrections are certainly fine, and I understand the purpose.
  Superm401 | Talk 17:44, July 13, 2005 (UTC)

• _ _ Bravo back at you, for acquiring those skills by now; i'm not sure i was that quick a study. You're considerably more of a valuable colleague than i already realized.

_ _ As to "astute", actually i mis-stated the event for some unknown reason. Once the possibility occurred to me, i noted your name, and my next step gave me a results of the kind that, with the quantity of shots in the dark that low and unimaginative effort makes feasible, can help one pass for wise. (Ask me if you're at all curious about that user sub-page, e.g. why it already existed.)

_ _ As to "what happens to those entries now", bravo for understanding that no one owns any article, and another bravo if you happen to be interested in my LoPbN-entry "style book" (for now, the defacto one), but if you're not, it's none of my business. (E.g. bcz we depend on getting things right eventually via lots of eyes, not on everyone knowing how to do them all right.)
--Jerzy·t 22:06, 2005 July 13 (UTC)

• First of all, could you explain what "Dabs" are? I know "Rdrs" stands for redirects, ,but must confess to ignorance regarding the prior term. Now, on to my main comments. [Per Page history, this is an unsigned contrib 22:25, 2005 July 13 by User:Superm401; this portion of it moved here from Talk:List of people by name#Purpose of name lists by Jerzy·t 01:00, 2005 July 14 (UTC)

• Wikipedia:Disambiguation --Jerzy·t 01:14, 2005 July 14 (UTC)
• More (recent style guidance) at Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages)
  Jerzy·t 04:49, 2005 July 14 (UTC)

• By the way, I have placed this page in my watchlist and therefore noticed your edit summmaries. What is an ed-conf resolution as in "Purpose of name lists - Why not the WP space (et al.) -- via careful ed-conf resolution that moves a contrib from end per topic - + sub-hdg" [Per Page history, this is an unsigned contrib 22:25, 2005 July 13 by User:Superm401; this portion of it moved here from Talk:List of people by name#Purpose of name lists by Jerzy·t 01:00, 2005 July 14 (UTC)

• Wikipedia:Edit conflict --Jerzy·t 01:14, 2005 July 14 (UTC)
• In each of these cases, i started an edit & did a lot of thinking & revising before saving. You started & finished an edit after me, each time, before i got done; we were competing for the end of the same section, so voila, ed-conf. "Careful" means i looked pretty hard at the diffs on the EdConf page, made sure both our changes got in in a sensible way, kept my head carefully about which edit window was which (In each case, my edit was much larger, so i copied yours, from either the diffs or the top window, into an appropriate place in the lower, editted out the + signs if i was copying from the diffs, and pasted the whole thing over the whole of yours in the upper window.), and finally previewed the result, with special attention to the ToC. (My guess is the occasional "doubling" of the contents of pages was an ed-conf-related bug, now fixed, rather than involving user error, but it is so troublesome when it happens that i'm supercautious.)
  --Jerzy·t 04:49, 2005 July 14 (UTC)