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Statistical evaluation of the SES predictions issued in Greece: alarm and success rates - Tectonophysics - 1993
Political decisions impact on short term earthquake prediction - Academy of Japan - 2013 ("the government will never make short-term predictions")

--IP202-46.198.213.62 (talk) 10:54, 1 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Per the Christ myth theory, I would like to convert the WP:Lead argument list into a general list of arguments asserted, rather then just those of Bruno Bauer.
What arguments, if any, would you add? —Thanks

that the New Testament has no historical value.[2][3]
that there are no non-Christian references to Jesus Christ dating back to the first century.[2][4]
that Christianity had pagan or mythical roots.[2][1]

1. Carrier, Richard (2014). On the Historicity of Jesus
2. Voorst, Robert Van (2000). Jesus Outside the New Testament
3. Lataster, Raphael (2015). "Questioning the Plausibility of Jesus Ahistoricity Theories
4. Lataster, Raphael (November 12, 2015). "Afterword by Richard Carrier". Jesus Did Not Exist
96.29.176.92 (talk) 02:45, 28 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi IP96, the old article contents said that Price had an alternative version of this three-fold argument, putting an emphasis on 'dying god' myths. I'm not sure if maybe that wasn't undue weight, as it seems like almost the same thing as 'pagan or mythical roots'.

Carrier's argument is very subtle. I just took a quick look at his summary section, and I'm reluctant to say too much without doing more careful review. But it looks to me like the hinge-pins of his thesis are: (1) the existence of two completely different extrabiblical traditions about the era of Jesus' life (thus making it more likely both are fictional) and (2) a detailed study of the text of Luke-Acts, focusing on statements which he believes would be highly unlikely if Jesus had been a living human.

It might be best to work on an improved Carrier section, then bring any conclusions back to the lede after getting consensus on the section. JerryRussell (talk) 03:44, 28 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]