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I note your edits to this article. At the time I had just returned from London, it was not a good time to be there. We were house-hunting. It was a good time to do that as there were plenty of vacant properties. After work we walked to an estate agent in Nassau St, he actually lent us some the keys of some houses which we could view by ourselves over the weekend. Then there was a bang, the agent suggested a car back-fire. Then we headed for Westland Row train station (now Pearse Dart). Had we been three minutes later or three minutes earlier ... .... The scene was horrific. there was glass everywhere with injured people lying about, alarms sounding. Then white-coated dental students came rushing with bandages. (the dental hospital - part of Trinity was nearby). There was nothing we could do and there seemed to be enough white coats about, I wanted to get to the railway station and get me and my new wife out of there - but then meant passing back past the scene. There was just one white-faced Garda there. He stopped us. I explained about the railway, he said - ok - but don't look up the lane. Passing the Chubb alarm shop, there were four people laid out there, with doctors (or dentists?) doing their best. The lane. I couldn't help looking, there were screams. An unfortunate man with only the top half of his body. Its hard to retell the event. I'll stop now ClemMcGann (talk) 12:41, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
I worked on Talbot Street in 1981; I always passed the area around Guiney's where the 2nd bomb car exploded. I always got shivers as I reflected on the collective agony people suffered that afternoon at that same spot. There are black burn stains that remain on the outside walls of Guiney's. I once met the sister of Anna Massey, one of the two women killed by the South Leinster Street bomb. We were at a party; my friend from Northern Ireland was doing Ian Paisley impersonations unaware that this woman's sister was killed in the bombing, and as soon as she heard his accent, she walked out. Throughout the years I lived in Dublin, I never went into the city centre without worrying that bombs might go off again. Never. That is what terrorism means. Thank you for sharing your experiences with me. It must be difficult to have such memories,and then relate them. Thank you.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:33, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
I thought it garnered a new heading. A whole week of -- erm, rain & constuction; the road my house is on, Rochestown, is being dug up. At least I'm off to Dublin on Wednesday! Any tips from a seasoned Dubliner, such as yourself, Jeanne? -- Jack1755 (talk) 16:36, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
Enjoy yourself! Ah, to be in Dublin strolling along the Quays.......Oh, there is an interesting old church on a Church Street off the Quays called St. Michan's Church. It has centuries-old mummies. Fascinating!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:44, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
Thank you, I'll be sure to see it! I'm also heading to the National Wax Museum; it's been closed since 2000; only re-opened this month. The Winter has descended upon us: a thick mist is obscuring Cork! -- Jack1755 (talk) 21:20, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
Hello Jeanne, I've created this article on Catherine of Alençon. She lived a strange life, amony some of the highlights was help to deliver the baby Henry VI of England. You created an article on her sister last year, Marie of Alencon. Is it an good and thank you for installing an info box on Matilde of Bavaria's article, I wish I could find an image of her, there is a big family tapastry with all the Meissen couples on it but I can't find the one of Matilde and her husband do you know anything about that? Cheers--David (talk) 15:29, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
I found it on Wiki Commons, the user that posted it has posted many images of interest to us, he's posted many images of those Bohemian queens who's pags I created an expanded, I'll have a look around at the stuff they've posted and send them a message, just I forgot the username and password for my Wiki Commons account--David (talk) 09:30, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
Bonjour Jeanne! If you do not mind, I am following in your footsteps with accents & cedillas in my pocket to fix up Angoulême, Alençon & poor Vigéè Lebrun who has become unlinkable! How are things in Sicily? Aurevoir!Frania W. (talk) 03:23, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
I noticed he is not on the list of deceased Wikipedians. Seeing as it looks as if you knew him perhaps you could consider adding him. (I’m not sure in regards to the criteria for adding people to the list, most of the editors on this list are very distinguished). Food for thought I think they say. --Sooo Kawaii!!! ^__^ (talk) 20:48, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
He's not? Surely this is an oversight. You could contact an administrator and ask why he's not there. His talk page has been protected, but I think you can still leave a message.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:41, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Joanna apparently locked herself away with her daughter Catherine when Philip died. Apparently Joanna could see her husband in the child, and she'd try and talk to him, what must've poor little Catherine being thinking? Another one who was very upset when she was widowed was Leonora of England, she was so upset she would go to her husbands funeral, eventually she made herself so sick she died. Now that shows how much she loved her husband--David (talk) 09:49, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
LOL -- I read somewhere that her reclusive behaviour was in part due to the co-regecny. -- Jack1755 (talk) 10:46, 26 October 2009 (UTC) 10:45, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Where I live (Sicily), they've made an entire culture out of mourning. Alas, their rather dreary mourning attire does not match their baroque histrionics.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:32, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
Hello Jeanne, I've translated an article from Polish Wikipedia on Euphemia of Kuyavia. I've sorted out everything apart from the section about her marriage which is in rather nasty english, it doesn't make sense to me. I was wondering if you would take a look at it. If you do, please leave the numbers in the brackets, I need them for the references. Thank You--David (talk) 10:07, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
Hello Jeanne, I've created an article on Christina Rokiczana, she was the wife of a merchant and then became the morganic wife of Casimir III of Poland. He committed bigomy with her as well as Hedwig of Zagan.--David (talk) 12:17, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
LOL. I thought I should share this with everyone: Peta.org -- Sea Kittens. Update: Still no hope over at Cosimo III, I'm thinking of resigning anything to do with it. Off to Dublin in seven hours; won't be online all day. Bye guys! -- Jack1755 (talk) 23:19, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
Oh it was wonderful, thank you, Jeanne! I didn't get the chance to go to St. Michan's, but I ventured to the newly re-opened Wax Museum, which was excellent, Bewleys, Café en Seine, Shelbourne; and maxed out my Mom's credit card. LOL. -- Jack1755 (talk) 20:07, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Oh, I adore Bewleys. Not only is the coffee excellent but the atmosphere is so tres chic. The cheesecake and chocolate donuts are also out-of-this-world. Jack, I really miss living in Dublin.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:48, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
But how does it look to you? I'd never heard of her either until the other day when I did an article on Anne Carr, her mother-in-law.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:23, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
I would like to wish everybody here a diabolically-frightening and most hauntingly-happy Hallowe'en!!!!! Sweet dreams tonight ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha (Freddie Garrity's witch's cackle)...............--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:03, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
I saw that you are currently working on several Wriothesley girls. I added (another!) cranky Shakespeare theory to Elizabeth Wriothesley, Countess of Southampton. To my surprise, and as far as I am aware, it has not been exploded so far, although it didn't revolutionized anything eihter. Thank you for your note on my talk the other day; I am recently a bit frustrated by the climate around the FAC talk page and similar forums...best to keep away from that crazyland and do the quiet work in the vineyard...like you do, and PKM, and myself (just examples). Buchraeumer (talk) 12:45, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
O. k. then, that's fine. The study I have read on it has never been translated into English, but I had a look at Amazon, and there are two further books on Shakespeare by the same author in which she includes this theory among other cranky things. The True Face of William Shakespeare and The Life and Times of William Shakespeare 1564-1616 or thereabouts. Well, happy suspense for this night! (Where I live, Halloween is only very recently coming en vogue) Buchraeumer (talk) 20:56, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
GoodDay, you are making me feel very cold. Will you please go into your kitchen and make me a nice cup of hot chocolate? Thanks. I feel warmer already just at the thought.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:08, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
LOL. My poor mother has just returned from ballet rehearsals -- it's her comeback! he he -- she's playing a minor role, and apparently, it's a lot less minor than the co-oridninator told her! When the time comes, I'm just gonna sit back...relax...and laugh. -- Jack1755 (talk) 18:51, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
A real nightmare for Jeanne Boleyn
I awaken to discover that:
Henry VIII and his six wives, including Anne Boleyn were just a myth; they never existed (Scream!)
It is early 1976, therefore:
Internet and Wikipedia have not been invented yet; my only sources of entertainment are crappy TV sit-coms (Scream!)
I switch on KMET (a little bit of heaven, 94.7) and the Peter Frampton song Show Me the Way is playing over and over (Scream|)
I open my wardrobe and all I've got to wear are flared, high-waisted jeans, wrinkly, knee-length skirts, dancer's leotards, horrible striped jumpers, rust-coloured t-shirts, and platform espadrilles (Scream!)
I look into the mirror to find my hair is its natural colour of dark brown and parted in the middle (Scream!)
I am still in high school, so I walk down to Venice Blvd, and catch the #75 Rapid Transit District (RTD) bus to Venice High School, where I am forced to fight off the amorous advances of surfer Chris Biggs (Scream!)
I'm fine, thank you for your concern, Jeanne. I've been busy with my studies -- returned to school on Monday from mid-term -- and it's the way some of my appointments have fallen this week: orthodontist, chiropractor, and math's tutor, etc. How is life in Sicily? Did you get mant callers at Hallowe'en? -- Jack1755 (talk) 17:36, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
That movie scared me 0_o. A LOT!!! I think the Amityville Horror (2006 remake) is probably the scariest movie I've seen. -- Jack1755 (talk) 17:59, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
Workin' on the farm, no doubt! I know it's a hoax, but it made one heck of a story! When I was last in New York, I had wanted to see the house, but, alas...! -- Jack1755 (talk) 18:05, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
Antony Leo Henry of Dublin's Fair City (Clontarf to be precise) "Monsieur" Pappalardo, an illiterate shepherd from one of Jeanne's Etneic estates (a shocking and extremely scandalous mésalliance) Francis, King of Malta Leopold II, Grand Duke of Tuscany
Anton Leo Henry Keith Richard Henry Richard Pappalardo, Prince de la Garde Tatiana Anne Pappalardo, Duchess of Syrcause Leopold III of Tuscany Marie Antonietta, Archduchess of Bavaria and the Upper Palatinate
The Most Holy and Divine Jeanne of Venice, (bestowed on her by a grateful Vatican following her notorious friendship with an ordained Roman Catholic priest, and her refusal to disclose the sordid details to the rapacious press)
Sir Francis Anthony de Griffin, of counties Clare, Mayo, and West Cork
Mother
Mary Mildred Gilmore, of the ancient Ulster clan Mac Giolla Mhuire
Religion
Roman Catholic (formerly Anglican) A forced religious conversion applied by the direct coercion of parish priest Father Carmelo (see photo above), a modern, heady mixture of Torquemada, Rasputin, and Cardinal Richelieu; Jeanne was once a member of The Church of the Poisoned Wine
Occupation
Sovereign; lady about town; summer resident of Giardini Naxos, who is normally to be found swimming in the open sea and rescued by handsome young lifeguards (see above photo); unpublished author of historical romances; full-time, life-long Rolling Stones fan
Apology accepted. The issues surrounding Northern Ireland go well beyond the designation of the place. One is also left with trying to decide what to call the people of Northern Ireland themselves. For Nationalists it's easy, as they're Irish; but for Unionists, one is stuck with the ambiguous term British as Irish would not apply to them, due to their obvious historic rejection of the identity, and Northern Irish is polemic, and not quite accurate from an historical perspective, whereas Ulsterman-or woman is too quaint and colloquial.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:38, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
I recall something David Ervine said once in interview: "If you can have an Irish-American, why can't you have a British-Irishman?" I found that a pretty compelling argument and a good maxim to move forward with.
Apologies again for my rudeness, the pressure of that discussion got the better of me. --rannṗáirtí anaiṫnid (coṁrá) 22:45, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Believe me I understand. I always believed that David Ervine was one of the more intelligent of the Loyalist paramilitaries. It's a pity he became involved in violence; for had he not been put in prison perhaps he could have had a more pacificing influence on the more belligerent members of the UVF. I read about him in Peter Taylor's Loyalists. Even Gerry Adams respected him. Oh, if you think it's bad on Troubles-related articles, head over to Talk:Lee Harvey Oswald. On that page there are more insults flying about than there were bullets in Elm Street on 22 November 1963!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:53, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the infobox
It's no problem! I knew I messed up your D.O.B, parents, and first husband, but, regardless, I elected to insert them! I'm glad you enjoyed it. -- Jack1755 (talk) 16:12, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Thank you! Let's the hope the finished product shall be too. I got my orthodontic braces revamped yesterday, I'm in a world of pain.... -- Jack1755 (talk) 18:24, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
I've got two 8 pound, nickel springs mercilessly tugging at my teeth! And the worst part, I can't eat anything! At all. -- Jack1755 (talk) 18:39, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Wow Jeanne, she was a player wasn't she. I find it strange that Anne and Richard never had children, it's strange because they loved eachother and Richard was always faithful to Anne. Did Anne have a miscarriage? I've been focusing alot more on Poland at the moment, on all those unheard of Queen consorts, one you may like is Agrippina of Slavonia, sister to Queen Kunigunda of Bohemia. Others I've created are Lucia of Rügen, Grzymislawa of Luck and I've expanded Helen of Znojmo, sister to Conrad II, Duke of Bohemia. Isn't it funny how they all lead back to Bohemia? Oh, and nice infobox. Cheers--David (talk) 16:42, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
I have read that Robert de Vere had an illegitimate daughter by an unnamed mistress. Do you know anything about it or is it just a rumour put about by wishful genealogists?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:44, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
The best Bonfire Night celebration I ever saw was in Lewes. Magnificent. It was 1980, and I recall they burnt Maggie Thatcher in effigy along with the Pope. The costumes were wonderful.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 05:39, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
Maggie Thatcher? Wouldn't that have been illegal back them, imagine if she'd have caught you. There's a big firework display not far from my house tonight, for all the families to go to, being Saturday--David (talk) 10:44, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
No, it wasn't illegal. I lived in Lewes at the time, and it was remowned for its Bonfire Night celebrations. They were truly memorable.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 10:50, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
Pussycat Dolls' most popular songs are probably Don't Cha, Stickwitu and When I Grow Up. I like Lady Gaga, people are annoyed with her in this country though because she was supposed to be the opening act for Take That but she couldn't be bothered going. Have you heard her new song, Bad Romance?--David (talk) 12:06, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Injury
I suffered a bad head injury this morning, so my editing will be much reduced over the next few days. I will try to get to Wikipedia as often as I can but I shall need to rest a bit. Don't worry I haven't gone away, but my head is killing me at the moment, and as I was hurt in the back of the head that can be quite dangerous, so I should take it easy. Thanks everybody for understanding that if I don't reply straight away to messages posted here, it's due to my sore head. LOL.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:43, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Jeanne in 1971 as a hippie!
I thought I'd make GoodDay laugh by uploading a photo taken when I was in my hippie phase in 1971-the year he was born! Note the beads? I used to frequent the Hari Krishna temple close to my house in the hope that I'd meet George Harrison who often visited the temple.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:02, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
I thought it sounded like something the thoroughly sinister Lenin would have said in one of his dark, bleak merciless speeches to the freed proletariat.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:08, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Tsar Nicholas's georgeous daughter, TatianaFile:Krupskaya.jpgAnd the stunner Lenin had to wake up next to each morning
Look at the two pictures and ask yourself this question, GoodDay: do you think sexual envy played a part in Lenin's hatred of the Tsar and his family? With a stunner like Krupskaya, Vladimir could never sire a beauty like Tatiana.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:39, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
The Geraldines
Hi, Jeanne. Sorry for not replying to your message sooner. I've been on WP very little in the last couple of months, as I'm very busy in RL. I hope to get back to the Geraldines project sometime in the new year. I read your articles and they are exactly the kind of thing I had in mind. I look forward to some fruitful collaboration. Scolaire (talk) 08:07, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
England, Scotland, Northern Ireland & Wales. IMHO, those articles should've kept the usage constituent country in the lead. Oh well, it's too late now. GoodDay (talk) 14:18, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
Vk's current Banning Case
I've chosen to revert my 'vote' at that case, due to past sock-puppeting by Vk (which I forgot about). I shall remain neutral on the current case, as (to my knowledge) Vk hasn't socked 'since' his last Banning Case. GoodDay (talk) 19:32, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
I gave my vote once which is sufficient. I wasn't aware of any sockpuppets, as I had assumed it was a matter of civilty.I'll let the others battle it out over at AN/I.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:34, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
The socking hasn't occured since Vk's last Banning Case (over a year ago). Thus my reason for not voting for his ban. GoodDay (talk) 19:55, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Jeanne! How are things? We haven't talked in a bit. Could I get your opinion on something? I'm finding conflicting details about the style of Anna Maria Luisa de' Medici everywhere! Some sources affirm the validity of the 1713 ruling by the Tuscan Senate creating her "Grand Princess of Tuscany" in the event of her brother's accession without male-heirs, while others simply subscribe to her Electoral style. Until I can prove otherwise, I've played it safe with "Her Most Serene Highness the Electress". However, as a Grand Princess of Tuscany, she may have enjoyed royal dignity -- I use may lightly, the only evidence I have to suggest this is Cosimo III's protocolary pleas to the court of Madrid to sanction the use of H.R.H. for his then heir-apparent, Ferdinando --, and when Charles VI, Holy Roman Emperor repudiated the senate's ruling, did that mean it really became invalid? Did Charles VI infact have feudal rights over Tuscany? Or were they curtailed by the Peace of Westphalia in 1648? And if the legislation is proven to be technically valid, was she titular Grand Duchess of Tuscany? So many questions! -- Jack1755 (talk) 00:34, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
I believe the best person to ask would be Surtsicna. He knows more about succession rights and titles than I do. Did Tuscany debar female succession? From what you say it sounds as if she was the titular Grand Duchess, but let Surtsicna give his reply. Cheers, Jack.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 05:59, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
Like all of contemporary Italy, Jeanne, salic-law was applied in Tuscany. Although, if the act of 1713's validity substantiated, salic-law was abolished by the Tuscan Seante. Thanks for yout help! -- Jack1755 (talk) 14:04, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi Jeanne, it was that author I told you about on wiki commons, their name is Acoma. I often have a look at their gallery and I find all sorts of stuff, I've no idea were they get them from. Have a look at the gallery, there's hundereds!--David (talk) 18:40, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
Hello Jeanne, have you seen the images posted onto Berengaria of Portugal's article? Should we leave them or do really want them? I'm surprised at the hair color, I thought it would be darker--David (talk) 18:24, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
The image of her skull is really thrillingly macabre. I don't know if we should remove it. Why not post the question on the article's talk page, and see what other editors think?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:38, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks!!
Oh my god, I'm so sorry for my late reply! I only just noticed your barnstar now -- I don't have my user page watchlisted. Thank you so much, Jeanne. -- Jack1755 (talk) 22:58, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
Just dropping by to say bonjour & tell Jack I am worried about him not being able to swim...
Jeanne, Louis XV never said Après moi, le déluge, and if anyone ever said it, it may have been Mme de Pompadour, although the authorship of the phrase is much debated. One should always be careful with phrases taken out of their context, and their possible attribution to the wrong person. Much like the famous S'ils n'ont pas de pain, qu'ils mangent de la brioche, which can be given several meanings, and which was not ever uttered by Marie Antoinette.
Oh, Bonjour, Frania. I did not realise Louis XV never used those words. Thank you for informing me. Most Anglo biographers still attribute the phrase to him.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:22, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Cork! She played Mme Stalbaum in the Nutcracker. Our school was the only one on the Northside that opened today. Grr! I found an interesting newspiece: [1]. What do you think, Mom Jeanne? -- Jack1755 (talk) 14:26, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Thank you. He commanded far less work than the Electress Palatine! Being a monarch, naturally, I guess he would get more references than his sister. His personal life seems to have been...erm... for lack of a better word, salacious. I consciously excluded a great deal of dubious information about it. Still no water for much of the city! Most schools re-opened today; however, Scoil Mhuire of Syndney Hill has been reduced to using a hotel lobby! Haha. Are you excited about X-Mas? -- Jack1755 (talk) 15:19, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Ah! But you should see me on Hogmany. Hic!. This paragraph from the article kind of sums it up. In Glasgow and the central areas of Scotland, the tradition is to hold Hogmanay parties involving singing, dancing, the eating of steak pie or stew, storytelling and consumption of copious amounts of alcohol, which usually extend into the daylight hours of January 1. No steak pie and stew for me though. Jack forbes (talk) 15:39, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
I'm a popcorn (& tea) addict. Acutally, on the matter, I spilled tea all OVER a book yesterday. T'wasn't pretty! What is your favourite book of all time, Jeanne? Thank you for sending me the articles. I'll be sure to check them out when I have more time. -- Jack1755 (talk) 20:31, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Tut, tut, tut, Dai. "Rides", "pimps", just what kind of girl do you take me for? A ride means going on a rollercoaster, whereas a pimp is an abbreviation of pimpernel.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:41, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
What kind of girl do I take you for Jeanne? The very nicest around. Even if your knowledge of street slang is becoming just a little dated. Cheers, Daicaregos (talk) 15:23, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Oh no!!!!!Which of my street slang is-oh, do I dare utter the foul blashemy-out of style? "Gear", "radical", "tubular", "faaaaaaar out", "space city", "hepcat", "boss", "mind-blowing", "right on", "outtasight", "groovy"? Come on, I can take it.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:31, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Hmmm, well let me see. Nah, of course your cool Jeanne. I used to wear the flares myself in the seventies, but, erm, I'm not so sure they would look so cool on me now. Some people just always keep their cool and others let it fade away into memory. Jack forbes (talk) 15:56, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Shame, I was going to let you and Dai duel first and then finish off the winner while they were exhausted and bleeding. My plans have gone array I fear. Jack forbes (talk) 16:17, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Haven't you seen a drunk man say I love you? I know, he'll say it to his friends, lampposts and stray dogs. A lovely moving sight. Jack forbes (talk) 16:42, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Its those striped bell-bottoms that have ensnared the lot of you. Whenever I used to wear them men of all ages fell swooning at my (bare) feet.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:29, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
No bell-bottom fetishes. Did you know Eric Clapton wrote Bell Bottom Blues for my very own striped bell-bottoms you see in the photo? Yeah, he added blues because he was sad he didn't have a pair like mine.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:50, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
e/cI'm sure Jeanne has lovely feet. But I'd advise people always to check other peoples feet out. Imagine, bunions, crusty toe nails, and sweat glands as big as your hand. Jack forbes (talk) 17:52, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Ahem! I'm sure I don't know what you mean! Anyway, I shall cede to GoodDay as horses with an armoured Knight atop, as well as it's own, can be cruel and I'm such an animal lover (not that kind) I couldn't bear to make it suffer. Jack forbes (talk) 19:24, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Ah, a medieval bedding ceremony blessed by the bishop. Do you know that in the case of the bridal couple being extremely young, a priest was required to insert his hand between the pair to make certain they were-ah, successfully engaged. Honestly, I read about it in a bio on Isabella d'Este. Ready to take Holy Orders, GoodDay?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:36, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Well Jeanne, my worst nightmare has come true! The Pussycat Dolls have split up, this is really sad news to me and it's all Nicole Scherzinger's fault--David (talk) 19:37, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
You and your pussycat....lips, (crotch thrust), whoa, whoa, whoa, you and your pussycat.... eyes, (crotch thrust), whoa, whoa, whoa....--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:13, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Hmmmmm, mixed reports coming in, their manager has denied reports of a split, I wish they would just say yes we're splitting or no we're not, I don't believe this!--David (talk) 16:38, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Agnes of Burgundy
Hello Jeanne, I've just finished an article on Agnes of Burgundy, Duchess of Aquitaine, she was the great great grandmother of Eleanor of Aquitaine, I think the pair have alot in common. And our friend on Wikicommons, Acoma supplied me with an image of Agnes. Cheers--David (talk) 16:33, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
Mary Boleyn
Before you revert again, please study the history of the article (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mary_Boleyn&action=history) to see that 96.37.69.87 removed several referenced parts of the article, substituting or adding uncited conjecture. 96.37.69.87 was reverted on all points except for the one that I caught at a later time and reverted. If you intend to re-add the bit 96.37.69.87 added, please add a proper citation as well. Thank you. --58.174.75.123 (talk) 22:07, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
The wreckers (deletionists) always win as nobody can resist the mighty glory of the wrecking ball as it swings into action, deleting every article in its path. Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the ball, it's deleted every article and made fools of us all...--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:12, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
Comments please:
Moved pages
Hi Jeanne, we don't need to include titles in the name of an article if the person is already distinct. Melisende of Arsuf and Alice de la Roche have already been moved back, but would you mind moving the other ones (I'm sure it will be easier for you than for others to figure out which ones you moved!). Adam Bishop (talk) 15:19, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
I have moved some back, but others are easier to figure out with their titles. You are right about Melisende and Alice though. Thanks for changing them.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:56, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
Your edit summary. No more mister nice guy.
Are we going to see a new hard bitten and cynical Jeanne on wikipedia? Are you going to tear editors to ribbons over the slightest insult? :) It would be entertaining right enough, but just you stay the way you are Jeanne. There are already enough bad guys on wiki. Jack forbes (talk) 14:35, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
I used to be such a sweet, sweet thing 'til the deletionists got a hold of me They attacked my articles calling them cookie-cutters, sayin' they lacked notability I got no friends 'cause they obey the Roman general They can't be seen collaborating with me and I'm feeling real shot down and I'm getting mean Jeanne says: no more Mr. Nice Guy no more articles on medieval queens no more Mr. Nice Guy until Jimbo changes this scene Once a PhD called me an amateur Dunlavin said I was an uncultured Yank trolls vandalised my user page I've been made to feel like an illiterate crank I wrote an article incognito, without my user name but just when it was uploaded the general he recognised me and marched it off to AfD Jeanne says: no more Mr. Nice Guy no more articles on medieval queens no more Mr. Nice Guy Jimbo please change this sc-e-e-e-e-e-e-ene Drum roll (Courtesy of Neal Smith)--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:48, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
Jeanne Boleyn used to be such a sweet sweet thingNo more Mr. Nice Guy
I have a cousin named Alice Cooper. She's a really sweet lady, now in her 80s, living in Florida. A real sweetheart, just like you. Please don't change Jeanne. Daicaregos (talk) 14:35, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
Excellent! I was going send the Enfield Poltergeist -- try spending the next six months with an unkempt, dead, and just rude working class English-man -- to put you back in your senses, but now it's all good. -- Jack1755 (talk) 20:07, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi Jeanne, I just read the comment you made on Jack Forbes talk page. I know myself I'm getting worn by the that "discussion" and my temper is running out of tether (indeed I advertised it earlier than I had planned because I lost patience).
These are fraught issues and keeping it cool is important. I don't know if I have. I don't know if I haven't. So I would be grateful if you (and others if they are watching) would comment on/criticizse on my civility/conduct on that discussion.
Not sure he would want to be confused with me! I've found much of their advice worth following - particularly the {{Rescue}} tag which alerts them to AFDs. Personally I find your articles interesting and well worthy of retention. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:01, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm sorry I confused you with Dai, Ghmyrtle. I'm still half asleep and need another cup of expresso to become fully alive. Thank you for your words of praise. I appreciate all the support, advice and words of encouragement I am receiving. Thanks again. Cheers, Ghmyrtle.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:04, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
There aren't any playboy bunnies around here, GoodDay, but fellow Canadian Paula Abdul is on the prowl for a wiki-user! Her breasts might not be plastic, but her face sure is!Part of Jeanne's new bad-ass image. All she needs now is a Marines-style crewcut, a flak jacket, and a whip
Yeah a whip-great idea!!! Actually I bought the boots yesterday. They weren't expensive either unlike most Italian footwear. Also, again unlike most Italian footwear, they are comfortable.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:22, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I saw that. What's his game, anyway? First he portrays himself as a Belfast loyalist, then as a Glaswegian, now as an American black guy. I personally don't think he's Irish, Scottish or black. He's just someone who is in need of attention, and likes to provoke others in order to gain it.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 21:15, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Actually what I said was that I was born in Belfast and raised there and in Glasgow, and that I consider myself both Irish and Scottish. My mother's an Ulster lass, dad was an African-American. A case of "I am the biggest mix up that you have ever seen: my mother she was orange, my father he was...black?"Irvine22 (talk) 00:23, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
The reason I question your Belfast birth, and Scottish upbringing was your usage of the word color in your provocative message on Snowded's page. A person raised in Belfast and/or Glasgow would have automatically written colour. I rest my case.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:57, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Yes, it's true that would be my automatic inclination, but one I have learned to check after two decades living and working in the U.S.Irvine22 (talk) 14:59, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
I don't think he's ever been out of the USA. He probably googled a How to Speak Norn Iron site. The way he writes is just too OTT to be genuine.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 21:29, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Yeah man, I am like absolutely, like totally, like, hey man, like like squirming (no writhing) with jealousy that I'm not you. Oh God, how can you be like, so like totally cruel not to make me Irvine22?!!!! (or being a Californian, should replace cruel with mean, although you would of course realise that word has a different meaning on the other side of the Atlantic-I do mean the ocean not the square on the Monopoly game). As my wee boyfriend from Omagh used to say, Wise up or in Norn Iron: Ways uup. BTW, Californians don't have a twang, we have a laid-back breathless sort of drawl when using vowels, a very clear enunciation of the consanants, with a strong emphasis on the letter r; also we have a tendency to run our words together and use fillers such as "like", "man", "really", and "you know". Therefore, Irvine, I can now conclude that you have never been to California, either.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:49, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Your representation of California dialect has a nice 70s retro feel. Also quite white and coastal: my African-American and Latino employees don't talk like that at all. Neither does my PA, a white lass fae Bakersfield, whose speech carries distinct traces of her Scots-Irish Okie forebears! (Contemporary CA is much more diverse than you probably remember it - you should come back some time, I'll show you around the old neighbo(u)rhood!) Irvine22 (talk) 15:08, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Aye, you're right there. And the most frequent claim folk seem to make on here is that they are engaged in "building an encyclopedia", something I see precious little proof for.Irvine22 (talk) 00:33, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
A certain someone really flatters himself! As if a Unionist would ever get to be a sex slave... all he would ever say is no! *Hold for applause/ and or incensed ripostes* -- Jack1755 (talk) 00:24, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
I don't blame the meds. I blame those Christian Brothers for filling your head full of nonsense. You need to look out for yourself around those types of people, son. Irvine22 (talk) 01:00, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Ah, yes, the Daily Record. Do you get it sent over? I agree with Jeanne, you've never lived in Glasgow in your life. A wee visit to castle greyskull is the longest you've been there. Jack forbes (talk) 01:18, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Well Irvine, all I can say in rebuttal to your rather unpleasant little comment to Jack1755 in regards to his Christian Brothers school, is that if one compares his high-quality contributions to your trollish inanities, it becomes patently obvious that you definitely could have benefitted from a Christian Brothers education. Once again, I rest my case.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:07, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Jeanne Boleyn desperately seeking to drink away her Californian twang???!!!
In a slightly off topic comment (well, related to the picture). Am I the only one who always presumed Paula Abdul was black? But shes actually Jewish according to her article. :$ - Yorkshirian (talk) 08:26, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Many people had assumed she was black at the beginning of her career. I recall a friend of mine, who was black, telling me back in about 1990 that Paula was of Middle-Eastern ancestry.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:36, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
LOL, Yorkshirian. I'm having the same problem with Mariah Carey. What ethnicity is she? I think she's Hispanic; hitherto, I thought she was white. -- Jack1755 (talk) 17:37, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Just keep creating article Jeanne you are doing great work, I know I put 2 of your articles up for deletion The Max Lazer one and Sable Star one but they weren't notable per wiki guidelines, I have to admit I am of the deletionist mindset, I do a lot of new page patrolling and the amount of non notable articles created daily is unbelievable do we really need an article on a school in the middle of some tiny little town in the middle of nowhere or one on another Pokemon character, IMO no, but as I said at the start don't stop creating articles and if any are put up for deletion let me know about them and I will have a look at them also. BigDunc20:25, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Big Dunc. Can I ask, if we don't need an article on a school in the middle of some tiny little town in the middle of nowhere, do you think we need an article on the tiny little town? Jack forbes (talk) 21:44, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
Personally I don't think we need an article on this person here:L'Wren Scott, as her only claim to fame is in being the girlfriend (among how many others?!) of Mick Jagger. In point of fact, I put up the notability template.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:26, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
I suppose with a Town it has merit in a geographic sense. But the school in the town IMO would not be notable. BigDunc16:21, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi Jeanne, I outdented your vote at the AFD, I hope you don't mind. I think it's easier to follow if all actual votes (as opposed to comments) are fully outdented. Cheers. Stu’Bout ye!13:34, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Jeanne's crib 2009 versionMy crib 2009Can anybody spot Jack Forbes and GoodDay in this scene?Can anybody spot Jeanne with the Roman soldier?Any trolls who try to gate-crash WikiBlitz will be tossed out by my bouncers
Vitamin C
I read your recent contribution Jim "Dandy" Mangrum, and I thought I would relate a little story... I once had some members of a notable group over to my house after they had performed (because I am a horrible groupie, who likes to feed bands good home cooked meals). I asked one of them, "What has been your most memorable "Celebrity Encounter?" The female member of the group related that they had once been on the same bill as Black Oak Arkansas, and had been thrilled by the booking, because Jim Dandy had been a childhood crush of hers. She went on to say that upon meeting Mr. Mangrum in person, she couldn't help but notice that (and I quote), "It looked like he had a couple of grapefruits stuffed down his pants. No really, he had the biggest pair I have ever seen..." Much laughter ensued.
Considering that this band had opened for Guns'n'Roses as well as Red Hot Chili Peppers on their world tours, putting Jim Dandy up there with those acknowledged heavyweights is quite a compliment. Too bad people forget about all the great bands from the 70's that weren't Zep or the Stones. Or even the Dickies and the Fab Poo's. Peace! Hamster Sandwich (talk) 20:13, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
David Lee Roth shamelessly copied Jim Dandy's image and persona. He even had the same long blond hair and strut. I can remember always hearing the song Jim Dandy at the beach back in 1973.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 20:29, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
It's a great article, Jack. Well-written, well-sourced, and with lots of images. Good luck, but I think it'll pass as you have done a fantastic job on it. Congratulations.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:15, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Jack1755 never ceases to amaze me by the high quality of his articles and contributions. It's hard to believe he's only 15. IMO, he's one of Wikipedia's most skilled editors on historical articles. The amount of work he puts into his articles is staggering. We need more like Jack1755 here instead of gung-ho deletionists who go around putting up historical articles for AfD, and thus depriving readers of information.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:04, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
That's so sweet of you, Jeanne! And thank you, too, Jack. It took many hours of trvoing around google books to make it what it is now! Unfortunately, very little is written about her in English language books; there are at least 3 Italian and 2 German biographys availible. -- Jack1755 (talk) 17:18, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Whaddaya mean, GD? I ain't gone nowhere, man. I'm sitting here, freezing, in my living room, wearin' my sky blue PJs covered with cute little white dogs and polar bears, waiting for some action. Perhaps I should step into the time tunnel and seek out Jim Dandy.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:50, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
A cure for winter-time blues and boredom. Jim Dandy to the rescue, Go Jim Dandy, Go.....
Proposed WikiProject
I have made a proposal to establish a WikiProject for British-Irish Collaboration. A number of proposals are currently being made around initiates to improve collaboration between British and Irish editors on topics of mutual interest. A number of initiates have been adapted in the past, with varying degrees of success, but all positive in their intent to resolve these issues. A centralised WikiProject for British-Irish collaboration could act as a focus for initiatives to improve collaboration on these topics.
As an editor that has recently taken part in discussions around initiates like these, please comment on the proposal to establish a WikiProject for this purpose. Please also circulate this notice to other editors you feel may be interested. --rannṗáirtí anaiṫnid (coṁrá) 13:53, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
...with something as trivial as this, but what do you think of this portrait of the Electress Anna Maria Luisa? I'm having trouble deciding. There's just so many! I really like the faux, plumed Roman helmet. -- Jack1755 (talk) 23:38, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Could you select a portrait you think apporpriate? Anna Maria Luisa @ commons -- Thanks! I checked out Anne Hastings; it's a lovely article. I simply added two commas and specified whose wife Queen Catherine was. That provoked a thought for me, "wasn't [Henry and Catherine's] marriage annulled"? And then another, "if so, I wonder can she be called queen"? -- Jack1755 (talk) 17:39, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
The article is perfect, Jack. I didn't find any florid, overblown prose. I don't care for the helmuted-portrait as the infobox image. Personally, I prefer the image I've placed here.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:43, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
I agree. Feel free to insert the Boit portrait! Thanks. Would you mind copy and pasting your testimony here? My X-Mas exams started today! :O -- Jack1755 (talk) 16:06, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Praise for the singing, praise for the morning.... Good morning, Jack. How's the weather in Scotland? Here it's cold and threatening to rain.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:53, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
No hot chocolate I'm afraid. I suppose I could run up and down on the spot, but I don't have the energy. Where are you spending your Christmas Jeanne? I'm off to London for a few days of merriment. Jack forbes (talk) 07:38, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm sure you'll find something to cheer you up and you do have your kids there. You are also a very fortunate girl to have that beautiful view from your house. There are people out there that would give their eye teeth for that. Jack forbes (talk) 07:44, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
You're Tiger Woods's 15th mistress! Jenny's delectable titbits of medaeval history lured him into her arms; how much did he pay you to keep quiet, huh? -- Jack1755 (talk) 00:43, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Happy Birthday, Keith. To me you'll always be like you were in 1972!
Happy Birthday, Keith
(JB's comment above)
Here to celebrate with you, I know Mick Taylor did the lead on this but the band is Keith's – singalong now: "Well, when you're sitting there, in your silk upholstered chair/Talkin' to some rich folk that you know/Well I hope you won't see me, in my ragged company/Well, you know I could never be alone" HBKR, see you at Sarah's. Sswonk (talk) 15:05, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Take me down little Suzy, take me down/I know you think you're the queen of the underground..... Do you think Suzy was legendary groupie Suzy Creamcheese? Taylor was a very good guitarist, he just lacked charisma and had no stage presence. I saw the Stones live twice with Mick Taylor, and he was totally upstaged by Keith.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:13, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
I got no idea, but sometimes it's like everyone at that stage was Anita Pallenberg. I caught Some Girls in Hampton, VA during the first weeks of the tour before the songs became classics. There are some good videos from that tour out there. Sswonk (talk) 15:46, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
If there was such a thing as parallel time, I'd love to have been Anita Pallenberg in the 1960s and early 1970s. What a life! She defined cool.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:51, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
She was definitely a force, and aficionados know how much. Mick's lyrics and star power define the public view, but it is and always has been Keith's band and she as his wife played a major role for ten years. Your idea sounds like mine where I wake up one day and I'm in Boston in 1775. It's essential to have a strong imagination. Sswonk (talk) 16:15, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
I thought Keith Richards died years ago & the only reason he's still performing is 'cuz nobody's told him he's deceased (giggle giggle). Happy B-day, KR. GoodDay (talk) 19:24, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Hello, Jeanne boleyn. You have new messages at Jack1755's talk page. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Taking precautions
Howdy Jeanne. As ya know, there's been alot of UK related discussions at my talkpage lately. In appreciation that they could become 'heated' (due to my views), I've left a message to those who might become too emotional at those discussions. PS: You're not one of those emotionals. GoodDay (talk) 15:58, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
No! bouncers, please wait I am only making a suggestion. Jeanne, I must continue my lobbying efforts on behalf of Jefferson Airplane, certainly there must be an explanation for your omission of them here and on the front page. It is not a strong resemblance but I do think you favor Grace Slick (also here and here) a little bit. Also, in light of some of the disco-y-er musical selections I recommend Detroit techno band Inner City, listen here. Listen to Paris Grey sing more than a couple of times and you will be hooked. I guess I'll have to grant you blanket dispensation, however, for including both the Sex Pistols and Kate Bush in the same list, that indicates you share with me an open mind. Sswonk (talk) 14:51, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Merry Christmas to you by the way. I like all of those, and really like Loretta Lynn although many people draw the line at C&W. In your California days, did you ever hear a DJ named Charles Laquidara or listen to the station where he worked, KPPC? They were on the avant-garde of eclectic FM radio, pioneers of the free-form movement away from Top 40. I've read that playlists including a variety of artists such as you've listed were not out of the question there. Charles is a Mass native, ended up leaving Pasadena, coming back to Boston in the seventies and ruling rock radio here for 25 years. He became rich enough to retire to Maui, where he is today. Sswonk (talk) 17:39, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Never heard of him. I was a big fan of Jim Ladd on KMET (a little bit of heaven, 94.7), then I started listening to KROQ as they played a lot of punk and ska music.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:42, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
You were probably just a year or two too young for KPPC. Reading the KMET article points out that the histories of both stations were intertwined, with KPPC being the first, then flaming out to be replaced by KMET on the spectrum. The soul and spirit of the musical presentations were very similar. There is an excellent history of the period called Riding on the Ether Express, this summary mentions many of the personalities you may have also heard on KMET. Sswonk (talk) 18:39, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
I was shocked to discover today 2 days ago, that Jack had considered me a 'troll' (due to my views at my talkpage). I've sent a 'Happy Holidays' message, as a good will gesture. GoodDay (talk) 18:38, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
OK, I'll be more honest about it. I did discover it 2-days ago & was quite angry about it. But now, I'm willing to let it go. GoodDay (talk) 22:43, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Honesty is a good policy in these things. However, the cause of Jack's actions remains. What could possible lead you to believe he want's to let it go? It may even look as if you were stirring things up, given that #1 Jack is (as you know) away, and #2 the post I referred to earlier. Apologies to Jeanne - this should not be here. Daicaregos (talk) 22:53, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Hmmm, my 'Holiday message' (at Jack's) & 'new message' at my talkpage, have been deleted. Dai's correct, they might be seen as baiting. Best to wait until Jack returns. GoodDay (talk) 23:08, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Noël chez les rois de France... et de Navarre
Jeanne, Joyeux Noël to you & to your family! Left you a note on my talk page, but you will have to excuse me if I do not respond, as I must leave my computer for a few hours. Amicalement, FW=Frania W. (talk) 18:10, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Hello Jeanne and GoodDay, merry christmas! How are you both, any new projects? I've been focusing more on Polish royalty, especially the Masovian branch of the House of Piast. They really did like their power, they were going to war with eachother every week because of some disputed claim on a small town. Rage Against the Machine's Killing in the Name got Christmas #1 over here because people were sick of X Factor getting the top spot at Christmas every year, the noughties has gone out on a high! Thank You--David (talk) 20:16, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
Merry Christmas to you. I've been creating a lot of articles on Tudor women as I love the 16th century, and there's a lot of info on the noblewomen of the period.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:44, 23 December 2009 (UTC).
That sounds great Jeanne, I see you've worked alot on Anne Boleyn's family. I'm in the middle of creating an article on Mary of Guise's grandmother and Mary, Queen of Scots' great-grandmother, Philippa of Guelders I wondered if you knew anything more about her? The Masovian family have a few daughters and wives that may make interesting articles but I can't find enough information about them. Cheers--David (talk) 10:09, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!!!!!!!! Are you serious? How could scion be construed as florid? It features in all historical books as well as encyclopedias and newspaper articles, the scion of an important family, etc. Wow, this really is over the top. And sad.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:42, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Merry Christmas
Hi Jeanne:
Hope you and your family have a very Merry Christmas and a great 2010!
Can't believe it is almost 2010.
Some day soon, I'll look for my photo album and send some old pixs to you.
Help someone has nominated Linda Jackson (designer) for deletion, just after I started work on it. If you look at my work, including The Pheasantry which I created from scratch, including photos, and in Granny Takes a Trip and other articles such as Jenny Kee, you see I am creating a lot of material on designers and the counterculture of the 1960s. I still have work to do on the Jackson article - she was a business partner of Jenny Kee who is undoubtedly notable (there is a film (Hippie Hippie Shake) appearing about her next year) and she has featured in exhibitions at the V&A. Obviously I need to do some further research on Linda and I don't appreciate having to store it on my own computer in case it is deleted. Is there anything you can do to help? This place (Wikipedia) seems dominated by teenage males who create thousands of articles about porn stars and video games, I don't see why anyone should object to my restoring the balance a bit :o) West one girl (talk) 16:08, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Me in a Granny Takes a Trip top and gold lamé jacketThis is me wearing a Granny Takes a Trip dressAh, here'a photo with my ruby slippers. My dress is a vintage 1930s frock that was once owned by the wife of a famous rock star. Can anyone guess who I'm talking about?
Granny Takes a Trip was my favourite clothing shop. The California branch was located in West Hollywood. All the clothes were English-imported and in the glam rock-style. It was wild. Too bad you cannot see my shoes in the photo; I got them from Granny's, and they were ruby red satin wedged platforms with a diamante clasp.....ah, too gear for words.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:25, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
Dai, stab again! The singer in question has wilder stage antics than Elvis could ever have dreamed up. Another clue: His dark-haired (ex) wife was a fashion icon of the 1970s.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:08, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Dai, if only you could just make my feet 15 years old, I would gladly hobble around in those platforms, just as I did in 1973 and 1974 (granny takes a trip-ha ha). "Angie" is certainly warmer than Priscilla, but it wasn't her dress. Another clue: The singer is English; however, he does exellent American southern accent impersonations, but his Irish accent is ludicrous.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 10:00, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
OK. Based on clues so far - my third and final stab is Bianca Jagger. As no one else is playing, please put me out of my misery and tell me if I'm right (or whisper the answer in my ear). Daicaregos (talk) 11:23, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
There was a fantastic shop on Sunset Strip called Strip Thrills. Well the owner was the wife of a musician who was close friends with the Jaggers. Bianca and Mick stayed at their house and Bianca apparantly left her dress behind; when she was informed, she told the owner to go ahead and sell it as it was too long for her (Bianca is about 5'4 whereas I'm 5'8). As soon as I saw it, I fell in love with it, and as you can see in the photo-it was a prefect fit. I recall it cost 150 dollars. I had already bought it when I was informed of its history which made me even more exited to own it! This took place back in late 1973 when I was 15 and a half.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:55, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
I was reading through the thread, and I was thinking Angie Bowie, and then Pamela Des Barres, but Bianca kind of tops them both (IMO)! Here's a strange story... I was watching a documentary film recently, called FlicKeR. It had all kinds of rocknroll peoples in it; Iggy; Marianne Faithful, along with whom I thought was Anita Pallenberg. I was thinking, "Holy Jeebuz, Anita is really looking rough these days..." It turns out that it wasn't Anita at all... when the credits rolled, I was absolutely astonished to find out it was Genesis P. Orridge! I haven't been keeping up with the Throbbing Gristle/Psychic T.V. for a while now, and the whole thing was kind of surprising to me. Judge+Book+Cover=Wrong. Let me wish you all the best for the holidays, and the coming year. Hamster Sandwich (talk) 22:50, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Happy Holidays to you as well, Hamster. Speaking of Iggy Pop, I recall seeing him at a David Bowie concert in 1974, and he was wearing see-through trousers!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:52, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
Lapsang Souchong tea
They had it in the little Seoul restaurant I went into today, they served some Chinese food. I didn’t have it, but the plum tea was very nice. So was the fish soup noodles, along with the Kimchi and various other mostly spicy side dishes. Drinks for some reason are fairly expensive here, but not food. My plum tea was 4000KRW ! (About £2) and the noodles were 6000KRW ! Not much of a difference, and there were a lot of noodles. Regards, --Misortie (talk) 16:49, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Spicy seafood noodles sounds delicious, plum tea not really. Ah, to be sipping Lapsang Souchong on a hotel balcony with that intoxicating cityscape spread out below me....You're lucky, Misortie. Asian cities are so high-tech and futuristic looking, aren't they? I once had a dream that I was in a plane flying over Shanghai.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:10, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
I saw you were editing Alice Spencer & did not want to disrupt, but could you put:
==References==
{{reflist}}
at the bottom of your article so that the references issue cleans up. Thanks --MWOAP (talk) 15:06, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Speedy, speedy
Hi, Jeanne. I created a little article and before I had even copied the text from my sandbox it had been put up for speedy deletion. Swear to god, it must have been done within twenty seconds. Some people just don't have the sense they were born with. Anyway, I quickly removed the tag which will probably upset the poor little bureaucrat. Hehe. Jack forbes (talk) 22:54, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
That's why I'm so pissed off with the deletion policy here. I once came upon an article that had been created two months previously about a non-existant historical person, yet that article wasn't even nominated for deletion!!!! How that managed to pass the new page patrollers, I don't know. I put it up for deletion myself, pointing out that there weren't many 15th-century women named Amanda who went to an private American school! I tell you.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:19, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, your right, for two minutes. Less if I hadn't been interrupted. The tag was actually put in place in less than a minute. It was far too quick off the mark. Can't people be given five minutes? Jack forbes (talk) 21:53, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Yeah they should wait especially when they see it is an established editor that is creating the article and not just a new account. But if you come over and start doing a bit of new page patrol you will see the amount of rubbish that is created. I always check the contributions of the editor crating it usually gives a good indication of their intentions. BigDunc22:09, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm sure there is a lot of rubbish created that has to be speedy deleted but a tiny amount of patience wouldn't go amiss. Something I'm sure you have Dunc. Jack forbes (talk) 22:24, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Not sure about that ;) But why did you save the page with just "q" on it and wait 3 minutes to add some content in the taggers defense it is a reasonable conclusion that it was a test page and that was the criteria they stated as a reason to delete. BigDunc22:30, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
That light in my face sure is bright! First off, I wouldn't have waited three minutes if that big tag hadn't appeared. Secondly, I hadn't created an article for some time so before I cut and pasted my text from my sandpage I was checking it out. Do you have to be trained in interrogation before you join the new patrol team? ;) Jack forbes (talk) 22:38, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Hello Jeanne, hope you had a great christmas. I've expanded the article of Philippa's sister Alice. I hope you don't mind that I used your family paragraph from Philippa. I'm surprised Alice only had a stub, she seems to be a respectable medieval women and could have ruled Champagne, Cyprus and Jerusalem without a husband. Is it any good? I was also hoping to upgrade the class she's in like what Jack did with Anna Maria Luisa de' Medici, but I don't know how. Cheers--David (talk) 21:38, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
He brought me a new black dress (I never have enough black dresses) and perfume. Also the usual bottles of spumante, cakes, chocolates, biscuits which are placed and wrapped in large baskets; these are popular Christmas presents in Italy. My daughter, Tatiana received her own PC. What about you, Jack?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:20, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Books, clothes and some random surprises. You must show us your dress; upload a few pics! The books I got -- since I adore older books -- are somewhat moldy, and apparently if you sniff them for long periods of time you can get high :p. Anyway, I hope Tatiana likes her pc! I re-opened the case for Anna Maria Luisa becasue the previous case closed just as I had all the issues corrected! I'd hate to canvass, but would you wind renewing your yes vote? Thanks! -- Jack1755 (talk) 02:15, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Will do. As for the pics, I'll upoad them when I get the opportunity to wear it. It's too nice to wear for everyday, so I'm saving it for dining out. I've some old out-of-print books myself. One is a bio on Barbara Palmer called The Great Villiers. The binding is fern-green with gold lettering.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:15, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
It seems a certain someone deleted my nomination. I have been disconent with some of wikipedia's policies for a long time now, but seeing her blatant lack of insight in a message on my talk page has finally pushed me into retirement. -- Jack1755 (talk) 15:55, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Don't be rash, Jack. We need good, hard-working, creative editors like you. Please do not cut off your nose to spite your face; you obviously like editing and writing articles, so don't let the deletionists provoke you into retiring from the project. Jack, please, please reconsider. You can always try again for the nomination.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:29, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, Dunc and the same to you. Happy New Year sounds much better in Irish than English. Here in Italy we say Buon Anno or just simply Auguri!!! All the best.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:30, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Just looking around the Wiki to discover which nations celebrate New Year on 1 January and came across this: Dai people. Don't think we're related though. When do they celebrate New Year in Korea, Frank? Daicaregos (talk) 19:35, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
About 5 hours ago [5]. ..They do celebrate the Chinese new year too. When is that 0.0. On Seoul’s English language radio station the were out talking to ex-pats and foreign English speaking workers and none of em new what Chinese new year it was (Tiger) 0.0 And about the "Dai" thing, theres an Anime called Azumanga Daioh that I like ^_^.--Misortie (talk) 19:46, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
HAPPY 2010
Happy New Year, Jeanne. Yep, things to look forward to - 1) UK general election, 2) US mid-term campaigns & gubernatorial campaigns, 3) Will the Harper government survive & 4) for monarchist, will Prince William propose to Kate. GoodDay (talk) 18:26, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
No Jeanne, all those stuck in your time zone are doomed. And when you wake up tomorrow…The ENTIRE year will repeat itself!!! Like Groundhog day but, over a year. (In case you didn’t make that association)
My time stamp does not display CET time. Believe me it was after midnight when I made my edit as the mountainside was bursting with fireworks like exploding Christmas trees. My son was also setting off firecrackers and fountains outside our house. Happy New Year to you too--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:55, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
Everyone like to feel appreciated! And while were on the topic, may I say what a fine lass you are Jeanne? (*I* unlike some appreciate the beauty of many older women :D)--Misortie (talk) 08:22, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Thank you. Who are these some who don't appreciate the mature charms of an experienced older woman? Like Jagger says, What a drag it is getting old.... Of course he and Keith wrote this back in 1966 before the advent of 50 plus sexpots such as Madonna and Sharon Stone--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:26, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Josephine Airey
Read your recently created article on Airey - you'd linked it to the Helena, MT article. FYI - There's some extensive work on Airey in the Montana Magazine of Western History. Here's the dump from the Index just in case you want to do some more on the article:
[1951-1990] Airey, Josephine. See Hensley, Josephine Welsh Hankins Chicago Joe
[1991-2000] Black Hawk (Jim Hensley), 43(3)67, 67n, 68
[1951-1990] Chicago Joe. See Hensley, Josephine Welsh Hankins Chicago Joe
[1951-1990] Hensley, James T., 31(2)35; Chicago Joe and, 27(2)27, 29, 33
[1991-2000] Hensley, Jim (Black Hawk), 43(3)67, 67n, 68
[1991-2000] Hensley, Josephine Chicago Joe, 43(3)65n, 68; photo of, 43(3)67
Thank you Mike for all the info. She was quite a character! I'll try and locate the Montana Magazine on Google. Thanks again. Cheers.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:50, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
That's been on the statute book since summer 2009, GoodDay! Now shut-up and get back to praying, or else the government will stick you with a E25,000 fine!!!!!! -- Jack1755 (talk) 18:51, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Stupendously reactionary, isn't it? Not quite mandatory public flogging, for anybody who dares to insult the name of Our Lady. But enough to send the hearts of theocrats across the world fluttering. Happy New Year to all by the way, unfortunate to see that Jack has re-retired already; he was one of the good guys. - Yorkshirian (talk) 06:36, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
He retired the first time due to anger that one of his articles wasn't classed as FA, plus other little bits and pieces he wasn't happy with. I posted this to one of those who refused his FA, hoping he could persuade him to come out of retirement. Unfortunately, it went down hill from there. Jack forbes (talk) 20:45, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
I hope Jack1755 will return. He's just gotta except that once one creates an article, it instantly become a public article. I'm confident he'll return. GoodDay (talk) 20:54, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
I hope he does too. Getting an article up to FA is not easy. I had been told that a while back when I had wanted to nominate someone's article for FA, and the creator of the article told me it wasn't ready yet for FAC. I have seen how articles nominated for FAC-and indeed for GA are sharply scrutinised down to the last detail. Jack did wonderful work here and he'll be missed. He was erudite, creative, a fantastic writer and very pleasant. It's a pity he has decided to leave the project. I'll miss him as will a lot of other people.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:14, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Hmmmmm....did he give a reason for leaving the second time? I don't know what we can do, maybe is best to just leave him now. I'm off school today due to the snow lol!--David (talk) 10:55, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm off again today and tommorrow due to snow and ice. Any word from Jack yet? And Jeanne I've finished an article on Helvis of Ibelin, half-sister of Isabella I of Jerusalem. Cheers--David (talk) 16:37, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I saw where England was snowed in, however, it's quite warm here. Your latest article is good. No, I haven't yet heard from Jack, as he hasn't posted on his talk page. His User page has been deleted at his request. He is always welcome to E-mail me. I've my E-mail address on my User page.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:27, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Does that address work Jeanne? Please check your inbox for 21 December. An acknowledgment would be appreciated. Cheers, Daicaregos (talk) 12:44, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Hello Jeanne, I need some new articles to create but I have nobody. I would've liked to create one on Judith of Austria, daughter of Albert I of Germany seeing I've created articles on all his other daughters but I can't find any information about her. Do you know of any possible articles? I'm even open to some english ones. I'd also like to ask, how hard do you have to work to get a barnstar or a reward? Because most editors here have rewards and I'm yet to get one, does one of the main guys at wikipedia redward them? Cheers--David (talk) 13:50, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Oh Jeanne! Thank You so much, I didn't know you could send me one. Thank You, Thank You, Thank You! Your the best!--David (talk) 19:29, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
I've placed those 2 related articles on my watchlist again (at least for now). I'm confident that I can participate in those discussions, without being disruptive, now. GoodDay (talk) 17:06, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Hello Jeanne, I've been back creating articles for the Masovian branch of the House of Piast and I've stumbled on a puzzle. I've been looking at the final members of the family before Masovia became part of Poland. There was four children born to Konrad III Rudy and Anna Radziwiłł: Anna of Masovia, Janusz III of Masovia, Stanislaus I of Masovia and Sophia.
Look at this image [7] Sophia is not on it for some reason and she did live well into adulthood. The image is of Anna and her brothers, but Sophia is not on it and their referred to the last Masovians. Sophia was not even the first of the four to die plus she married and had children, look at these [8][9]. Jeanne, do you know anything about Sophia or somewhere where I could find some answers because it's bugging me. I know after Sophia and the brothers died Anna tried to claim Masovia but wasn't allowed it because she was a woman and her only child was female. Though Sophia's children could have claimed it but for some reason they didn't. Did Sophia fall out with her family? Cheers--David (talk) 15:25, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
I've just found out that Sophia and Anna where the final siblings living so Sophia could've claimed Masovia for herself and her children but she didn't and this is more reason for her to be in the painting. I need answers--David (talk) 15:28, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Jeanne, I had to message you this image of Anne Boleyn, because it seemed so unusual. Henry looks like a mix between Robin Hood and the Jolly Green Giant haha. Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen a woman hunt before. I wonder where this nifty little pic could be put to use on Wikipedia. - Yorkshirian (talk) 06:14, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Anne & Jolly Green Giant?
It's a lovely pic. Anne Boleyn was a keen huntress. In point of fact, she often accompanied Henry on hunting expeditions. I shall upload this to Anne Boleyn article ASAP. Thank you ever so much, Yorkshirian.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:23, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm a book worm. Also, I've found the Vice Presidency more interesting, then the Presidency. PS: Another fun-fact - since the 25th amendement was passed (1967), every incumbent President (since then) who sought re-election, kept his Vice President on the ticket. Note: Ford & Rockefeller (weren't elected). GoodDay (talk) 19:29, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Starting with the FDR Aministration, the VPs were gradually giving more responisbilities. I liked Daniel Webster's views on the Vice Presidency (19th century), when offered the Whig party Veep nomination (forget which year), he said he didn't want to buried until he was dead. GoodDay (talk) 20:10, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Easily. Just copy down the exact name of the file. When you edit the article where you wish to add the article type this sequence: File:Name of file.jpgadd your caption. That's it. Try it and let me know if you have any more problems. Big Dunc taught me how to do it!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:31, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Reminds me, my own cat was staring intently at my two baby Budgerigars…Must be careful. They aren’t chickens.--大輔 泉 (talk) 16:56, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
No, what happened was that my cat knocked her cage over this morning; as it was broken, she fell out and Tony clawed her. I found her intact so he didn't try to eat her. He was probably playing with her. Poor wee bird, I'll give her a proper burial tomorrow in the orchard. I'm sad because I've had her all these years.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:00, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
ORCHARD? Were do you live, a manor??? (I'm sick of manor houses, my village is full of them and I don't live in any of them!)--大輔 泉 (talk) 17:11, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
What manor house?! I live in a Sicilian village with a dramatic view of Mount Etna, and we have an orchard full of lemon and orange trees that stretches all the way to the woods, which go on all the way up to Etna.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:21, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Sorry to hear about your canary, Jeanne! I bet pasta is on the menu tonight @ chez Jeanne. Just an educated guess. hehe. -- Jack1755 (talk) 17:38, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
If she does blow, I'll have a ringside view from my bedroom, and I'll be forever preserved in ash like those mummies at Pompei. Anyroad, I already experienced a volcanic eruption at my front door, and Etna hath no fury like a woman wrongfully labelled a slut by a teenager.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:46, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Sounds as if you were still in your "No More Mr Nice Guy" phase. Not a pretty sight, I'm sure. Anyway, my condolences Jeanne. Always sad when you lose a pet. But please, no more captive birds. They are wild creatures and should be free. Daicaregos (talk) 17:51, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
I shall go down to the Catholic church in my Village and light a prayer candle for her. Even though I'm not Catholic...--大輔 泉 (talk) 17:54, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Dai. No, I've explained on GoodDay's talk page what happened. My 14 yr old daughter called her 27 yr old cousin a slut and all hell broke loose. She and her mum arrived at my door the cousin (27 mind) threatening to break my daughter's face, which is a common Italian threat which would not have been wise to carry out on the daughter of a woman descended from both Norman and Celtic warriors. Actually I was in my sweet, sweet thing mood.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:04, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
I swaer. Not only that but her mum asked me, "Jenny, if someone called you a slut, wouldn't you react like my daughter?" I replied: "No I'd laugh and then ask if she wanted lessons".--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:11, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Howdy Jeanne. I believe your archive box, hasn't been updated for close to a year. You're currently on archive #5. GoodDay (talk) 23:56, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
RIP Bianca
Well, Bianca has just been buried in the orchard beside the orange trees. Six years is a long time to spend with a pet, and I shall miss it terribly. Bye bye, Bianca. --Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:34, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Its always hard losing a pet. I never had any pets growing up and when I got my own house, I got a dog that we had for about a year. She LOVE to run outside and since we live out in the country, it wasn't a big deal. She started to come home less and less, till she was home maybe once a week (we think she was sleeping at a neibors house down the road, then she didn't come back. I just hope shes safe and warm somewhere :) Allyson Stephenson (talk) 20:17, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Jeanne, I know how you feel. My pet Pekin bantam called Pandora (Or mini hen no.1 as I nicknamed her) died in the summer of 2006, shortly after raising four healthy chicks. She was a feisty little hen with a lot of attitude (Unlike her sister, who is as passive and timid as ever) and when she died of a mysterious illness I was heartbroken. Some people may see small birds as something not worth getting upset about, but if only they knew. (PS, and in some shameless self-promotion, please add me on Facebook if anyone here has it XD!)--大輔 泉 (talk) 20:23, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
I've had my cat Tony for 3 and a half years and to me he's one of the family. Animals have personalities of their own and one grows attached to them.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:52, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Hey guys! Here you are talking about your... beloved cats when, in the present case, the cat having "mauled" the bird to death is the villain!!! Jeanne, I hope that you used your Tony's talents at time of burial & had him help you dig the grave and sing Requiem in pace... Bianca mia! --Frania W. (talk) 16:15, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
I had a quick question for you Jeanne, and I wasn't really sure who to ask. When people edit pages and what not, sometimes there is a number next to the name (+250) or whatnot. What does this mean? Why does it change? Sorry I know its a silly question, but I really wasn't sure who else to ask! Allyson Stephenson (talk) 13:06, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Ok so it depends on the last post the user does and changes after the next one? So if people are taking out a lot of text, then they would have a large number? Allyson Stephenson (talk) 15:46, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
It refers to the number of bytes on the page. Check the history on this page: Frank's (Misortie) edit timed at 13:19 today left 15,311 bytes on this page. Following the bot achiving at 14:47 the page consisted of only 13,510. Therefore, the bot's edit removed 1,801 bytes. Daicaregos (talk) 18:08, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
I presume, though I'm probably incorrect, that you are referring to the +/- feature from the watchlist, Allyson, yes? -- Jack1755 (talk) 18:26, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
No you were correct before. I was speaking of the number before. As a example, when I go to my watch list at the articles (I'm sorry, I am a very bad speller, just to forwarn) I would see this User talk:Jeanne boleyn; 14:18 . . (+249) . . Jack forbes (talk | contribs) (→Question: These numbers?). That (+249) is the number I was wondering about.Allyson Stephenson (talk) 19:21, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Right, got you. When you see the number (+249) next to Jeanne boleyn it means she has added 249 bytes (or characters) in her edit. If she deleted that edit it would show -249. Just to let you know, I'm a different Jack from before. :) Jack forbes (talk) 19:30, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
No thats a good thing to know also. Being new to the editing part of Wiki, I have no idea what all the numbers and whatnot are. Even when you go thru with the editing and all the ( and [ and everything else is a bit confusing. I mostly do this at work so I don't have a lot of time to go thru and read about editing. I'll get to it at some point. I just have to make sure to type things out in Word or something with a spell check first! (And to make sure I put my text were I want it!) Allyson Stephenson (talk) 16:23, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Who is this mysterious they? And why would they be interested in Archive 4? I cannot recall what was there. Hmmmmm... X Files material.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:15, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
You've got a good point there, I wouldn't object if the Commonwealth was deleted. But, I'm guessing that would be opposed by the majority. GoodDay (talk) 16:01, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
I was on foot!!!! The shepherd told me not to worry, they wouldn't attack me. LOL. I was more apprehensive about the dogs than the sheep!!!!!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:21, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Excellent, Jack. The lead is perfect. I made a couple of corrections. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't she-as well as Marie Antoinette for that matter-an archduchess rather than princess? I have never heard of Marie Antoinette being referred to as a princess.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:32, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Yup. You're 100% correct. I was afraid of using the word "archduchess" because I felt it might present an obstacle to the simple-minded GA reviewers. -- Jack1755 (talk) 17:34, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Maria Carolina technically derived a higher status as a princess of Hungary, however. After all, that's what gave her the style Royal Highness. -- Jack1755 (talk) 17:42, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Queen Victoria was also Empress of India, and although an empress officially has more power and prestige, nobody ever referred to her as an empress. Titles are funny-and complicated. Think of all the English monarchs who assumed the title King of France; then there were some kings of Naples who were also titular Kings of Jerusalem.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:48, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, Allyson! I only have down to the start of "Queen of Naples and Sicily" done. The rest is part of the article as it is. I hope to salvage some, at least. Nobody may have called her Empress, but she sure loved to sign herself "Victoria R.I.", much to Gladstone's indignation! LOL. -- Jack1755 (talk) 17:52, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Ahhh that makes much more sense. The two halfs deff don't match up. I just got some of my books back from my step sister, so I am looking forward to the day my 8 month old starts to sleep thru the night so I can start back up on some research. I would really like to help on some of the pages you guys work on! Allyson Stephenson (talk) 18:03, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
That's an interesting portrait of Cosimo. That would be about the time the European nobility started to dabble in science much to the consternation of the Vatican!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:05, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
(edit conflict)*shudders* Don't get me started on the nutty Popes! Urban VIII steals the cake for banning the smoking of tobacco, with the punishment of excommunication, for being too "orgasmic". -- Jack1755 (talk) 18:10, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
What about the Pope who issued the papal bull in 1154 giving England the right to invade Ireland. Then there was Cowardly Clement who saved his hide by seeking refuge in the Castel Sant'Angelo while the citizens of Rome were being slaughtered by the Imperial forces in 1527?!! Nice blokes.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:16, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Still nothing with Sophia of Masovia, maybe her family did forget about her though I doubt it. Hows Wikipedia treating you Jeanne?--David (talk) 20:39, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Ummm a little help?
There is this idot that keeps messing with Charles I of England's page... is there any way to protect it for a day or two till this guy finds someone else to mess with? Allyson Stephenson (talk) 18:20, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
Someone just changed a few things on Mary Queen of Scots also. Her birthday and something else... normaly I just undo changes when they put something silly, but I wasn't sure on these Allyson Stephenson (talk) 18:38, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for alerting me. I just reverted the vandalism. The Mary, Queen of Scots article gets vandalised quite frequently, along with many other historical biographies.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:54, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
Actually most of the historical bios get vandalised on a regular basis; in fact, I've got quite a few on my watchlist. If Mary gets vandalised again, I'll request protection for it. Thanks for your help, Dunc. Cheers.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:02, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
I wonder some days if people just wake up and say "Hey, i want to re-write a bio today!". if i ever contribute to a actual article, you better belive i would have facts and sources at my fingertips! Henry IIIV's page has been changed a lot... Allyson Stephenson (talk) 14:01, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Boot troll.
Do you think he could come from Norway? They (The Jeanne Troll [=) do have a similar appearance and they even look like they could be made out of the same material. Could they be brothers, or even sisters? (Do Female trolls even exist?) --大輔 泉 (talk) 00:32, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
LOL!!! In point of fact a friend brought it back from Norway and gave it to me as a gift. Unfortunately, I have never visited Norway. Have you?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:43, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
The Tudors series could take some accuracy lessons from the Edward VII series, for how to get the characters to look like the people they're portraying. GoodDay (talk) 19:40, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
It's an embarrassment and an accurate reflection on the collective ignorance of the people who work in the entertainment industry (Sorry Jim, you're the exception to the rule!). Surely at least one of the casting directors was aware that the real Henry VIII had red hair and a rather corpulent physique, and the real Anne Boleyn did not have blue eyes?! As for historical accuracy, well even a swift glance through the pages of a Jean Plaidy novel could have told the writers of the series that Henry had two sisters and neither of them was ever married to the King of Portugal!!!! FFS!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:08, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
I'm sorry but when the Americans get hold of these they kill it. Look at Elizabeth and Elizabeth: The Golden Age, was Sir Walter Rally such a hero? Sir Francis Drake was a hero and he wasn't mentioned at all. They only gave Henry one sister in the tv programme so they wouldn't create confusion with his sister Mary and his daughter Mary. They're a bit too romantic for me--David (talk) 16:35, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
The Tudors tv series, is now covering the late 1530's, early 1540's. Like ya said, Henry VIII should be quite chubby & bearded at this point. GoodDay (talk) 16:49, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
Yes quite. He grew very obese in his later years just as his maternal grandfather Edward IV of England did. The two men strongly resembled one another in looks and character. There was little of Henry VII visible in his son.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:02, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
I agree with both of you that I wish they used a bit more historical fact when doing the series, but on a side note, Their Henry looks much better without a shirt! Allyson Stephenson (talk) 17:40, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
I think Glenda Jackson is a great Elizabeth, but at the same time so is Cate Blanchett. I heard they may do a follow on from The Tudors that focuses on the three children. No doubt they'll be very romantic, they'll probably give little Edward VI a love interest!--David (talk) 11:09, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
I thought Blanchett made a terrible Elizabeth, no spirit, no charisma, no iron will. Blanchett couldn't intimidate a budgie. Who could possibly be Edward's love interest unless it's Lady Jane Grey?! Oh dear......Hollywood.... (Shakes head)--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:49, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
Do you want to know what’s worse than the Tudors for historical accuracy? The now deceased show Robin Hood on BBC that was axed. Honestly, the costumes were all wrong!大輔 泉 (talk) 14:43, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
OMG yes! I was talking about this by the way, forgot to mention. Horrible acting (I wanted to kill Jonas Armstrong after the very first episode), bad stunts, ridicules costumes that were not of the time period and unrealistic sets. Bah, is this what the licence fee goes too?大輔 泉 (talk) 15:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Nobody can ask me who I am seeing as I've put eveything about myself on my user page apart from my bra size. I just added my ancestors for those who wish to know (or fear) that they are related to me.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:05, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
I can tell you my ancestors the Burdons owned a shop around 100 years ago and in the Edwardian period I had relatives in British India serving with the navy, I can also tell you my Great-Grandfather was Irish and died 60 years ago. Now you know me! (My advance editing tools are not displaying correctly, Damn!)大輔 泉 (talk) 15:12, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Are you sure you aren't taking the story of Alessandro de Medici's background too seriously LOL? In some bios she was a Moorish/Berber slave, in others she was a mule driver's wife by the name of Simonetta which doesn't sound Arabic or Berber to me. LOL.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:57, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Hey Jeanne, I've started my family tree on my user page but I hardly know anything about my family, I know it's stupid but my Dad doesn't know the name of his own grandmother, we think she was called Alice but she died long before my dad was born. I forgot my maternal grandmother's maiden name, I'll have to ask her. It's a shame you have to pay on ancestry.co.uk--David (talk) 16:31, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
I don't know the name of my great-grandfather's parents for the simple reason that my mother forgot to ask her grandmother when getting info about the latter's ancestors. All I know is that they were cousins and he was robbed and murdered by a couple of renegade Indians in Indian Territory (Oklahoma) in about 1889. They were hanged for the crime; it was gruesome, apparently his head was blown off by a shotgun and his body was brought back to my great-grandmother draped across a horse.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:48, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Your family history is really interesting, my father's family were hugenots so the St Bartholomew's day massacre is very personal for me and my family, we hate Catherine de' Medici though she was a great woman. I recently discovered my best friend is of hugenot ancestry, imagine if our families knew eachother years ago or we're related! LOL--David (talk) 20:21, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
The name was Bullen, it's a shame really I'd of liked to have made that connection, either that or the letters have changed like my family's name was orginally spelt Crosse but they dropped the e after a while--David (talk) 15:56, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
But have you traced your family to see if you are related to the Bullens of Salle, Norfolk. Bullen is not a common name in England. You could very well be descended from a collateral branch of Anne's family. It's not certain whether or not George Boleyn had any children.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:25, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
In England it can be very hard to trace your family so far back, unless your one of those historians like David Starkey, not many people can view royal papers. It is a line of the family that is very unknown to my dad, I wish gran was still alive because she would've known about it. To check most documents in the country you have to pay which I think isn't right if you're looking for your family. Anyway I have more names to add to my family tree--David (talk) 20:13, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
What about Somerset House in London? Do you have to pay to look for your ancestors there? Besides, many parish churches keep records going back centuries.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:08, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
We did some searches last night on the web and found some interesting things out, the Bullens stayed in Lancashire for at least 200 years. I also found out my grandfather applied for american citizenship and was accepted but the rest of the family didn't want to leave. My family have lived around Liverpool for a few 100 years. I'd also love to know more about my Hugenot roots and I have more names for my family tree--David (talk) 16:24, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Hello, I'm trying to translate Anna of Masovia but the english has come back very bad, can you help me please? I've also found a wikipedia link to Sophia's first husband and it appears they had a daughter named Clara who was engaged but died before her marriage could take place, I don't know whether Sophia had other children though I'm still puzzled why there is only three last Masovian Piasts when their sister was still alive. Thanks Jeanne--David (talk) 10:15, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
I'll see what I can do on Monday as my kids monopolise both computers during the weekend. Oh, by the way, I saw your newly added ancestors_You've got Viking blood!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:01, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
I just had a look at Anna of Masovia as I had promised. It needs a bit of clarification in some places; also some of the sentences are too long and cumbersome. I would suggest breaking them up.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:25, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
Thank You, I've sorted the rest of it out but I have had to remove alot of information because it just doesn't make any sense, it happens with all Polish articles, the translation is always messy and full of mistakes--David (talk) 10:13, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
I've been coming and going all day, and I'm totally wiped out! Twice to my daughter's school, shopping for bargains, the shoe repairman to get my favourite pointed-toed boots fixed, and finally the dentist. Whew!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:11, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
It was my poor daughter who had to see the dentist, and thanks to his mistake, she must return again today! What fun sitting around a dentist's waiting room reading gossip magazines and overhearing people's long-winded and naturally boring mobile phone conversations. Now if people could manage to discuss the particulars of the JFK assassination, the perfection of Keith Richards' guitar licks, or the possible existance in the 21st century of the Knights Templar, then I wouldn't mind being compelled to have mobile phone conversations invade my auricular cavities.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:58, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Congratulations, Valerio Scanu. You're a true winner!
Savoia
Hey Jeanne, I didn't hear about that, was he good? I prefer Emnanuele Filiberto to his father, who is pretty much a disasterous example for the monarchist cause (especially the firearms and prostitution stuff, more than the P2). The Savoia house seems to make a habbit of shooting itself in the foot though, I have to say, southern-bias, I prefer Bourbon-Two Sicilies. Prince Carlo, Duke of Castro would make a great constitutional monarch of Italy IMO, but sadly there are far too many communists for this to become a reality (similar sitution to France and also Ireland, with the lovely "reds in green"). Crass and mediocre politics doesn't seem to be ending any time soon. - Yorkshirian (talk) 10:47, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
He was pretty good; he wrote the song himself, although he was accompanied by two other singers, so he was actually part of a trio. I like the man personally. Have you seen him? He has a truly Hapsburg face, thankfully unmarred by the Hapsburg lip. His father favours the Bourbons in appearance. The Prince is a collateral descendant of Marie Antoinette through her sister Marie Caroline. Strange how history repeats itself. Antoinette was hated for being herself and the Prince was catcalled for being the grandson of the King of Italy.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 10:53, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
I can see what you mean. His father reminds me of Juan Carlos, King of Spain... his face anyway. Then again King Louis XX of France looks quite different to most of the Bourbons, maybe its because of Franco being his great-grandfather. - Yorkshirian (talk) 08:34, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
There was remours circulating at the Royalty News webpage, that the Queen-regnant of Denmark 'might' abdicate on her 70th birthday (in April 2010). The Danish Palace has denied the rumours. GoodDay (talk) 18:27, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
She had too much personal info on her page for someone who is a minor so her userpage was suppressed. She has since created a new page, but without any personal information which could reveal her identity and location. --Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:27, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
I'd still recommend a new password for her, even though she wasn't a victim of phishing. Afterall, you've already revealed it to me & we don't need either of us being prime-suspects of phishing, if her new registered account gets compromised. GoodDay (talk) 16:36, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
But if an oversighter feels a minor is revealing too much personal data he has the right to suppress the page. Rockpocket explained that an account could even be blocked were the minor to keep putting personal info up. The oversighter explained that it's done in the interests of the minors themselves.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:44, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
It wasn't his fault. I asked him to check into it and he went to a lot of trouble locating the person who did the oversighting. He wasn't the oversighter; (that was another editor who was also very polite). I appreciate his efforts on Tatiana's behalf because we couldn't figure out what had happened.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:54, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi Jeanne, I've looked at your article on Judith and even though it's short you never fail to impress me. Like the conflicts between her husband and her family, it is very interesting that they had no other kids, though it could have just been like all those other medieval marriages, loveless. I'm going to make an attempt at expanding Bona Sforza's article. For such a great woman she has a rather small english article. The reason Bona stopped having children in her early thirties was because she fell off a horse when she was pregnant with her younger son, she went into premature labour, he died and doctors told her she was unable to have other children. Looking at portraits of her daughters, they seemed rather unattractive. It's a shame seeing there grandmother, Isabella of Naples and her mother Ippolita Maria Sforza were great beauties, seems the family juice didn't quite get through and they inherited the more unattractive Polish looks. Was Bona considered beautiful? Cheers--David (talk) 20:50, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for your praise, David. I was overjoyed to discover an image of Judith on Commons which I have uploaded to the article. It's a contemporary one as well. I don't know whether Bona Sforza was considered attractive or not. Her mother and grandmother certainly were regarded as beauties. Does Bona have any descendants? I know her legitimate line eventually became extinct, but I was wondering if perhaps there was an illegitimate line somewhere.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:13, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Bona's son had many mistesses and I've found that he had a daughter who did marry, but I don't know whether they had children. The Kings of Sweden descended from her daughter Catherine and a few of them had illegitimate children and I think the son of Isabella may have had natural children. Did Sophia, the daughter without an article have any children? The line dying out is there own fault, that's the problem you have when you make certain children live religious lives, they could have provided they needed descendents--David (talk) 16:08, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Well, usually a mother promised to give a younger daughter or son to the Church; often it was because the girls were physically or mentally abnormal in some way, and not likely to secure a husband. Remember the parents had to give the girl's dowry to the religious house upon her entry.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:21, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Yes, in Poland you were a King even if you were a woman, look at Jadwiga. I know it's strange but they always thought as a Queen being the consort. If you had inherited Poland you were know as King regardless of your gender--David (talk) 20:10, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Well, we also have Buffalo Bill instead of William Cody. That's because he's better known by that name; same with Mary, Queen of Scots. Sory, but when I came across Mary I of Scotland, I was taken aback. I recall my World Book Encyclopedia listed her as Mary, Queen of Scots. As for Richard The Lion-Heart and Robert the Bruce, I draw the line.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:04, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
I struck out the Merge first sentence part of it. Thus leaving your comments intact & not disrupting the flow of the discussion there. GoodDay (talk) 17:43, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. I had assumed that they had started another vote, otherwise I wouldn't have voted a second time. Oh weell, it's the last time I vote or comment on any discussion. When my input and opinions are treated with scorn, it's time I just shut the f.ck up!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:49, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
Don't let another editor's ABF discourage ya. I've had editors (over the years) snarl at me aswell, at such discussion. Aint nobody gonna push me out. GoodDay (talk) 17:53, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
Prince Charles declares war... on the Enlightenment
Did you see this earlier in the month? Can't believe I missed it. The media here hiss at Charles all the time for being a traddie. As a monarchist its slightly irritating that they're allowed to get away with such unpatriotic behaviour against their future King, but nonetheless. He makes up for it through sheer anti-PC iconoclast comments; "I was accused once of being the enemy of the Enlightenment. I felt proud of that." .... "We cannot go on like this, just imagining that the principles of the Enlightenment still apply now. I don’t believe they do. But if you challenge people who hold the Enlightenment as the ultimate answer to everything, you do really upset them". God Save the King, Liz is dull. - Yorkshirian (talk) 19:29, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
I'm part of the Appreciation Group of Prince Charles on Facebook. In point of fact, he's always been my favourite royal. I admired his comportment and discretion following the death of Princess Diana. Camilla was also discreet; none can fault her behaviour.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:22, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
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We as editors need to stick with published facts. We are not here to revise history based on personal opinions which typically result from intense nationalistic fervour.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:53, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Is this the 1969 song from Oliver? Jeanne, Jeanne (pronouced the English way) roses are red, and all of the hills have turned green.....Come into my arms bonny Jeanne--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:21, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
I wrote the song just for. [=. But if you don't like my musical talent, I shall take it else where! To the west end! Yes, and when I am rich, then whose laughing Jeanne! Hahahah!--Frank Fontaine (talk) 18:53, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
Nice one, Jeanne. I do like a story where the woman gets away with it :) The article is an interesting contribution to WP:Cornwall. BTW, as a hip editor, where do I apply to join the WikiBlitz Club? If I'm not blackballed, I promise not to send a telegram saying "Please accept my resignation. I don’t care to belong to any club that will have me as a member" [[12]] Andy F (talk) 20:35, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Hello Jeanne! I came across your handle in the Urraca of Leon page, which I am attempting to work through during my free time. Your bio is absolutely intriguing! It is one of the most entertaining bios I have yet read! I need to update my own.
One particular aspect intrigued me somewhat. And that is how do you reconcile your belief in the monarchy system with your American upbringing, and if I may say, a rebellious and anti “establishment-ism” inherit with rock-in-roll? I ask this out of genuine interest in the subject of monarchism. If you would like, you may contact me at dc_llewellyn@yahoo.com.
If anti-establishment rock stars such as Sir Mick Jagger and Sir Bob Geldof can cheerfully accept knighthoods, then surely I can sing along to Street Fighting Man, whilst editing Anne Boleyn. LOL. Anyroad, once a group signs a record contract, like it or not they are part of the Capitalist society. Just ask Billy Bragg who preaches (complete with artificial cockney accent, no less) the joys of working in the factory and down in the mines while living in a Dorset manor with his chic interior designer girlfriend!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:43, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Nah, I know Billy and I can tell you he really does have a Lun'un accent – and it's genuine. Honest! He's from Barking, a few miles east of the city, so his accent is not actually Cockney (which is more geographically specific). Here's a rather poor photo I took on 23 January 2010 when Billy supported a demonstration against police misuse of anti-terrorism laws. Andy F (talk) 08:29, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
OK, I believe you. As he's from Barking, would his accent then be a London or Essex one? Oh, and I do play Billy's music at WikiBlitz. LOL.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:45, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Ah, now you're asking Jeanne ! Yes, Barking was in Essex (it is now in the London Borough of Barking and Dagenham). And, yes, southeast Essex does have a distinct version of the accent usually referred to as "Estuary English". On the other hand, Barking is now – to all intents and purposes – part of London and the accent is more London than Essex. So Billy definitely doesn't have a Cockney accent in the pure sense.
But it's a fine distinction. Many people from the traditional East End moved out into the suburbs and subsequently their London accent became diluted while the suburban accent became more London from their influence. Accent and locale can be hard to define because socio-linguistic boundaries are subtle and constantly changing. And you know how obsessed with social accents we English can be! :-) Anyway, I've replied to your note about Sting on my talk page. Best, Andy F (talk) 10:10, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Door-to-door beggars
Some woman just rang my bell asking if I wanted to give money for the feast of some local saint!!!!! LOL. Maybe I should go around door-to-door on 30 May asking if people want to give money for the Feast of Saint Jeanne Boleyn!!!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:31, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Yes! She seemed to know all of the royals, you could just imagine her as the' person who would get invited to many parties and celebrations and if she ever threw one all the royals from the near by countries would come. You could imagine her stood in the great hall as the grand hostess with various dukes fighting over wine. Yet you could picture her leaving for a moment and going off to pray. There is a daughter of Urraca of León and Castile called Sancha, who I'd like to create an article on but I need to find some things out first. Could you help? Cheers--David (talk) 16:13, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
Jeanne, you've changed the date of when Judith ceased to be Duchess of Bavaria, her husband was Duke twice and Judith had been dead for a couple of years when he became Duke the second time, also on his article it says the also had a daughter. I think her title can been disputed, why Countess of Northumbria, why not Duchess of Bavaria? Thank You--David (talk) 16:52, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
I have just reverted it back to your version. Why not open a discussion on her talk page as to which title her article should use? Let's get a few opinions. I'm open to change, if there's consensus to do so. No problem. Thank you for putting in the 1077 date! Academics are just eager to pounce on errors like that by which they can then use as a stick to beat us with!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:01, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
Don't worry ;) I've added my piece to the talk page, just to see if someone like Surtsicna get's involved. Have you heard from Jack recently. Only two Pussycat Dolls left now, the lead one Nicole Scherzinger is just a complete joke now, she's happy the other three Dolls left!--David (talk) 20:23, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
I replied on my page, David. Jeanne, would you mind checking out Mary of Modena thus far? By checking out, I mean singling out redundancies, inaccuracies, ambiguities, etc. Thanks, Jeanne! It's so easy to unintentionally add information regarding political developments unrelated to Mary...I'm desperately afraid I'll be ridiculed for including too much politics, so I've tried to minimise its prominence. -- Jack1755 (talk) 23:47, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
I made a few corrections in the lead; the Early Years section looks good. I'll go over the rest later on. You're doing a great job on it, Jack!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:42, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Hi Jeanne, I've finished my latest article on Margaret of Masovia, she was a woman who cared about her family, she even adopted an illegitimate son of Casimir III of Poland--David (talk) 20:27, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Her line is still going through her son (I think) I know she had four grandchildren. It was a shame her daughter was never able to make her marriage--David (talk) 21:20, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Yes, from Wikipedia I've been able to track her descendents to the 17th centuary, from then onwards there isn't many articles for the children and nobody seems to be very notable, Margaret's descendents lost out during the reign of the Habsburgs during the 1600's. I've also finished an article on Anna of Denmark (1532–1585)--David (talk) 21:27, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
It's fairly simple, Jeanne – you can do it! Open 'Edit this page' for this page (or edit this section of it). Highlight the code that forms the Barnstar (that's everything in the template from { | style ... to ... 6 March 2010 (UTC) | }. With that template on the clipboard, navigate to your User Page, open 'Edit this page' and paste that code under the other two Barnstars. Andy F (talk) 13:40, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
The page is going through a bit of a major re-write. Many of the images were overloading the page that contained little information, no references and lacked coverage. In order to make the article more edit friendly and adhere to MOS the images were removed untill the article size can sustain them.--Amadscientist (talk) 23:02, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Really! Why not? (Also, I was just being chatted up by a very nice French girl 0_0 I feel great about that for some reason!)--Frank Fontaine (talk) 19:22, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
No way Jose. I'm perfectly happy editing, uploading images and creating articles on medieval noblewomen. Who needs the aggro that Admins have to put up with? If I were one, the first thing I'd do is crack down on all the incivilty and rudeness here.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:32, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, we should crack down on those who curse and swear on wiki. Ah, the demon drink! Where would we be without it? Sober probably. Jack forbes (talk) 20:10, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
The cursing is not such a big deal as the insults and belittling of others' contributions here. You have never been rude, Jack.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:19, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Do you fancy a chat, Jeanne?
Hi, Jeanne. I've asked Irvine on his talk page if he would like to talk honestly with me concerning some of his provocative comments/edit summaries. I may be daft but, I still think he could be an asset to wikipedia if he screwed the`head. If he does agree to talk honestly of it would you be willing to take part in the discussion? I think you would be of immense help. Thanks. Jack forbes (talk) 17:16, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Yes, of course I would be willing to participate in the discussion, providing he's sincere. Personally, Jack, I think our Irvine is a rather clever, very bored, and highly imaginative American youth acting out a big fantasy pretending to be a black Northern Irish Glaswegian. The onus is on him to convince me otherwise, but my antennae tell me he's not the genuine article.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:21, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
The more he talks the more I believe he is Scots. I could be wrong of course, it wouldn't be the first time. I think we should know from his first post whether or not he is willing to be honest. As I said, I may be daft. Jack forbes (talk) 17:24, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
You're not being daft, Jack. You are assuming good faith,which is a core Wikipedia principle. I'm just being cynical. Let's hear what he has to say.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:27, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
I am pleased to announce that our revered WikiBlitz Club hostess <drum roll> the loveley Jeanne has Cornish blood flowing through her veins! Ahhhh, Cornwall – bright Atlantic land of legend, mythology, and surfer dudes. Where the copper the clay the arsnic and tin / Run in your blood and get under your skin / I'll leave the county behind, I'm not coming back / So follow me down cousin Jack (Lyric to the song Cousin Jack by Show of Hands). Jeanne, you should hear that song - there's even a reference to the Joseph of Arimathea legend. Here is the song on YouTube [13] (and you might like to Google the full lyrics too) Andy F (talk) 18:06, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
<<Outdent>> --> ::::: That light? I think <<insert favourite deity here>> provides the light – as a mere mortal, I just point the Nikon and press the shutter. Andy F (talk) 18:47, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Oh no! This is going to cause a raging nationality debate! Is Jeanne American or should she be known as CORNISH-AMERICAN? But no she has English-French-Irish blood in her!!! What to do??? Should it say in the Infobox or the lead??? Nooo! --Frank Fontaine (talk) 18:33, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Well both Ireland and Cornwall are Celtic nations so our hostess is a Celtic-Franco-American Princess (and if the French connection is Brittany then you can drop the 'Franco' bit because the Bretagnes are Celts too) Andy F (talk) 18:46, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Well, Misortie, you have flung down the gauntlet, so let the edit war begin! Tally Ho!, St. Denis!, Cry God for Jeanne, Cornwall, and St. Misortie!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:40, 8 March 2010 (UTC)--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:40, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
I know there's some Breton, but my French ancestors came to the New World mainly from Paris, Picardy, Normandy, Maine and Poitou.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:51, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Merci, quand meme Frania. SVP ecrire a mon page de discussion mais en Anglais – parce que je ne parle pas Francais. Cordialement, Andy
The reason my ancestors were from various parts of France was on account of my great-grandmother having been French but born in Louisiana. Her ancestors had come to Louisiana and Quebec from different parts of France, including quite a few from Paris.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:15, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
No, my great-grandmother was not a Cajun as none of her ancestors camefrom Nova Scotia which was called Acadie or Acadia. They did live on a bayou though, but were just simply known as French not Cajun! I worked with a girl who was a Cajun as was her husband. They were both from Lafayette, Louisiana which is deepin the heart of Cajun country.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:52, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
I can't imagine you needing any gris-gris, Jeanne. Not that I spend all my time imagining these things you understand. :) Jack forbes (talk) 09:14, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
Jehanne ! What a seafaring family, back & forth across the Atlantic, and now here you are in the Mediterranean Sea! Is your cat Sicilian? --Frania W. (talk) 15:49, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
For the writer's sake, I hope he meant drivel, not dribble! PMSL. Get out of your pool of dribble, Jeanne, and pen a rebuttal!! XD -- Jack1755 (talk) 23:44, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
No, one must not be cruel to the afflicted, Jack. The poor wee thing needs soft words of encouragement, not a harsh tongue-lashing. There , there my dear.....yes, you are absolutely right, England isn't a country; now come on and take your medicine, there's a good boy.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:16, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Oh, I do like the Yardbirds version, but I have seen Aerosmith three times in concert and they perform that song so well live. Joe Perry's guitar playing is amazing.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
I agree Jeanne, Tchaikovsky is magnificent and Mozart is sublime. I'd add Bach and Beethoven to the list. But Wagner??? As he said of himself "(I) write music with an exclamation mark!" His romanticism of the hero/superman/leader has made him the choice of national fanaticism (most notably the Nazis - Hitler was a friend of Wagner's daughter Eva and Wagner's music both fuelled and symbolised Nazism). Wagner's anti-semitism and his belligerent nationalism are well documented. Personally, I would find it hard to warm to the music that blared over the Tannoys as the prisoners were led to the gas chambers of Treblinka and Auschwitz even if it sounded wonderful rather than despotic, overblown and histrionic.
Because, politics aside, the music is sprawling and bombastic – all those sweeping shrills from the string sections and soaring horn-laded sonorities are so corny. Listen to the overture from Tanhauser for a perfect example of two (admittedly attractive) melodies degraded into a kitsch cacophony of over-orchestration. A huge sound signifying nothing IMO.
Anyway, here are a few quotes to amuse WikiBlitzers:
(Wagner) contaminates everything he touches -- he has made music sick. Nietzsche
Wagner has lovely moments but awful quarters of an hour. Rossini
One can't judge (Lohengrin) after a first hearing and I certainly don't intend to hear it a second time. Rossini
I have been told that Wagner's music is better than it sounds. Mark Twain
(This) ardent and despotic music feels at times as though one discovered again ...the dizzy imaginations induced by opium. Baudelaire
Andy, according to Albert Goldman, John Lennon was also anti-Semitic as was Voltaire not to mention countless of people, whom are held in high regard by history and mankind such as Richard the Lion Heart, Martin Luther, etc. Remember the Church actively encouraged anti-Semitism for centuries. I'm not for one minute condoning it, but it was fueled by the authorities and churchmen alike. One cannot dislike Wagner just because a homicidal madman idealised his music. People still drive Ford automobiles, despite Henry Ford having been a notorious anti-Semite.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:32, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
You're right in that one should not necessarily judge art by the politics of its creator; you're also right in saying that if one used anti-semitism as the sole yardstick, one would miss out on some great music. However, politics is not my main criterion for disliking Wagner's music (see above). Andy F (talk) 15:07, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
I once told my mother that A Day in the Life had Wagernian overtones, but that just upset her more. As part of my attempt to convert the Pathetics piano player (a hard-core classicist) to R&R I suggested that Tchaikovsky's Violin concerto had a lot in common with the Allman BrothersWhipping Post (live version), but after a few listens she still does not exactly agree with me. I have also been informed by someone who actually cares about me that I am not so much subtle as obscure. Life. What a place to live. Carptrash (talk) 15:38, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Well I am definitely pro-choice and believe that there are a wide variety of choices to be made, but that mostly we make them . . . ........ elsewhere. Carptrash (talk) 15:46, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
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