This is an archive of my talk page, the current version of which is located here.

Note that I am likely to reformat, delete, or otherwise alter what appears here...

Other matters

WP:OVER

Nice edits, we weren't trying too hard yet because it's still a very beta page. It's very Google-beta though, as since we're not considering it "Ready for Prime Time yet," it's still referenced often. Thanks for helping with the cleanup. :) ~Kylu (u|t) 19:43, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, well, every little helps. ;-)

James F. (talk) 21:24, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Research Approval by Wikimedia?

Hi James, Your "to do" list seems very long! A heads up: I sent an email to your jdforrester.org email account asking if Wikimedia has a process for approving academic research projects. I included some description of my project. My project will be under review soon by my university's Institutional Review Board. For my IRB application, I need to either provide a letter from WM or be able to state that such a letter is not necessary as it is not a general practice of WM. My project will follow various practices to protect the privacy and confidentiality of information of study participants. Does or does not WM review projects and send out letters of approval and permission for academic research projects? Thanks very much, Reswik 16:44, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dealt with by e-mail/in person at Wikimania.

James F. (talk) 23:00, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome!

Welcome!

File:World map.gif

Hi, and welcome to the Countries WikiProject! As you may have guessed, we're a group of editors working to improve Wikipedia's coverage of counties.

There are a variety of interesting things to do within the project; you're free to participate however much—or little—you like:

Starting some new articles? See some model pages such as Cambodia!
Want to know how good our articles are? The assessment department is working on rating the quality of every country article in Wikipedia.

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask another fellow member, and we'll be happy to help you. Again, welcome! We look forward to seeing you around! Shy1520 10:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Umm... OK.

James F. (talk) 12:07, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Prime Minister of Spain

Hi James,

I notice in May you made the move President of the Government (Spain) to Prime Minister of Spain.

Since there is also an article List of Presidents of the Government (Spain), please could you also move that for consistency? The correct title should be List of Prime Ministers of Spain, similar to List of Prime Ministers of Belgium, List of Prime Ministers of France, List of Prime Ministers of Canada, List of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom etc.

Thanks — SteveRwanda 16:53, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done.

James F. (talk) 09:56, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am not totally convinced that the new title is appropriate. The rationale behind the former title could be found on the Spanish language denomination (Presidente del Gobierno, instead Primer Ministro). While I fully understand that the former is not a common name in English, that did not make it unintelligible either. I personally believe that it would be better to restore the previous article title (or better rename it as President of the Government of Spain) and create redirects for the Prime Minister's. The terminology "President of the Government of Spain" is favoured by the UN and the White House.[1] [2] Your thoughts? --Asterion^talk 20:33, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm.

I think, in this instance, the "most common name" - in English, mind - trumps the "proper" name. AFAIAA, whenever there is a news report in the UK, even very formal ones, the POTG is referred to as the "Prime Minister", and I imagine that this is the same elsewhere in the Anglosphere.

Note that the two examples you cited, the UN and the US Government, are rather special cases, as diplomatic nomenclature is dictated by the source government (except in the case of major rows, such as "Burma" vs. "Myanmar"), and is not particularly indicative of what people would expect.

James F. (talk) 19:22, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

DLR templates

I don't really, as an editor, get the purpose of these templates.

Simply south 18:35, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. You know, I really can't remember why I created those two years ago. :-) Maybe they were used more frequently?

James F. (talk) 10:08, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Arbitration case

An arbitration case has been submitted to review the actions surround the recent Giano case on AN. I've listed you as an involved party, and you may wish to view the case here. --InkSplotch 18:06, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Events have overtaken this, somewhat obviously.

James F. (talk) 19:22, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Giano

Hello,

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Giano. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Giano/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Giano/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, MacGyverMagic - Mgm|^(talk) 22:07, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Events have overtaken this, somewhat obviously.

James F. (talk) 19:22, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

I have filed a checkuser for User:Afrika paprika and User:Zrinski, however got no responce at WP:RFCU. I was told to ask you if you can do anything 'bout it. Thanks in advance. --HolyRomanEmperor 16:21, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Giano

Seeing as you are named as a party in this case, it might be wise to recuse. ;) - Mgm|^(talk) 07:25, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Events have overtaken this, somewhat obviously.

James F. (talk) 19:22, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Request from Bosna

Dear Mr. Forrester,

I believe User:Ew is using sockpuppet User:Naconkantari to make morer than three reverts to Kosovo article. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kosovo&action=history

You can see that he switch from Ew to Naconkantari and make same revert. Reason I believe that he use sockpuppet is also because both Ew and Naconkantari contribs have strange habit to make all edit m minor edit. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=Evv http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=Naconkantari

At very least, could you please inform user:Ew that is it not proper to make edits that change whole meaning of articles and call it minor edit.

Thank you Bosna 04:24, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is this still a live issue, 10 weeks (!) later? It doesn't appear so to be...

James F. (talk) 19:22, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

E-mail

E-mail for you, James, in case the spam filter gets it again. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 06:38, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Got it, yes. Rather a long time ago. :-(

James F. (talk) 19:22, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Armenia

Please visit the Talk: Armenia and Talk: Armenians pages http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Armenia&action=edit&section=3 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Armenians&action=edit&section=36 please voice your view on the current discussion, there is a small minority that are promoting and point of view that Armenia is geographically in Europe and Armenians are a European people. It is best to serve the factual truth and your support is desperately needed.

--Caligvla 17:46, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This seems to have died down again.

James F. (talk) 19:22, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bot Userpage

I noticed that your bot's user page does not contain all the information required by Wikipedia:Bots#Policy. Please update your bot's user page accordingly. Thank you. —Mets501 (talk) 20:37, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What, exactly, is it missing, sorry?

I apologise for policy overtaking me without my noticing, of course.

James F. (talk) 19:22, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Come back soon

James, I do so hope you will be restored to us all now all the nastiness is about to be over. Giano 21:12, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I hope you will soon resume editing and arbitrating. I hadn't realized until someone else pointed it out that you had taken this long a Wikibreak. Newyorkbrad 22:30, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Back now. Sorry for the delay.

James F. (talk) 19:22, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use images in lists

Hello, I see you have contributed your thoughts to Wikipedia talk:Fair use/Fair use images in lists. It's been dead for a while, but I have archived it and taken a new fresh start. I hope this time we will be able to achieve something as I have summarized the main points of both sides (feel free to improve them) and I call you to express your support or oppose on the concrete proposal that I have formulated. Thanks, Renata 02:17, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Will have a look, but suspect that the matter is, for now, dead and buried by now. :-(

James F. (talk) 19:22, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Giano

This case is now closed and the results have been published at the link above.

Kelly Martin is thanked for her long and honorable service. As Kelly Martin and Tony Sidaway gave up their sysop and other rights under controversial circumstances, they must get them back through normal channels. Giano II may, if developers cooperate, be restored to access to the account Giano. He is requested to avoid sweeping condemnations of other users when he has a grievance. Jdforrester is reminded to maintain decorum appropriate for an Arbitrator.

For the Arbitration Committee. Arbitration Committee Clerk, Thatcher131 14:09, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Events have overtaken this, somewhat obviously.

James F. (talk) 19:22, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

UK School Act

Since you wrote the article, I wanted to ask you to check up on this edit. Is this simple vandalism or was the act later extended to include this school too? - Mgm|^(talk) 12:36, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it was vandalism. An IP-user reverted it out, I notice. How humbling.

James F. (talk) 19:22, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Article merge question

Hi Jdforrester. A VERY LONG TIME ago, you commented on the Talk:Herd behavior page about a potential MERGE. That discussion ended. More recently, another different merge discussion was started by someone, and it now appears that a wiki-consensus has been reached on the merge. I also learned there was a third Herd article, not merely the two involved in the merge discussion. There is now a question as to the best name for the new combined page. I would very much like to have a decently wide consensus on the best NAME before we merge the two (still muddled) articles, so if you would be willing to weigh in, that would really help. (as would input from any other interested wikipedians) N2e 16:50, 15 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Will have a look; thank you for flagging the issue to me.

James F. (talk) 19:22, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Are you still here, James?

James: It's now well over two months since your last edit, and I am posting again to urge that you rejoin us on-Wiki or at least assure those of us who do not currently participate in Meta, IRC, or wherever else you might or might not be participating that things are all right. I am sure the denouement from September's events was unpleasant for you, but you have a role (in fact, quite a number of roles) to play here and I hope you will be back to it soon. Newyorkbrad 01:12, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here again, aye.

James F. (talk) 19:22, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

use JdforresterBot for redirects on Pain to Pain and nociception?

Hi James, I renamed "Pain" to "Pain and nociception" (the two terms are very interwined and confused in common useage). Find there is something like 200 "indented redirects" on http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere/Pain_and_nociception&limit=500&from=0 Is it appropriate to ask you to run JdforresterBot on this list? (So the indented entries connect to "Pain and nociception") Any other suggestions appreciated. SmithBlue 04:57, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, no problem. Will dig it out, blow the dust off, and set it to work!

James F. (talk) 19:22, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia talk:Discuss, don't vote HELP!

See header :-) Kim Bruning 19:32, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good to see you again, old friend. :-)

Will get to it; thanks for throwing me in at the deep end. ;-(

James F. (talk) 19:45, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Talk page archiving

Hi there. Sorry to bother you again, but I've been watching a series of posts I made to several arbitrators about a particular case, waiting to see what the responses would be, and I'm not quite sure what happened to a post I made here. From what I can see, it was archived and then moved, but I wasn't clear where to. Ah, bingo! :-) After looking in your contribs list, I discovered where it had been moved to (a link in your edit summary saying where you were moving the post to would have really helped here, though as the error was mine in the first place, I can't really lecture about this...). I'll watch that page instead now. I also see, from looking at the top of your talk page, that I added my post to the wrong page anyway. Sorry about that. I guess I should add this post to the Arbitration subpage as well, but then it wouldn't make any sense. I think I'll leave this here where the talk about not being able to find things makes more sense, and move the ArbCom stuff (written but not saved yet) to that section! Also, this bit relates directly to talk page archiving and refactoring, not just ArbCom stuff. Anyway, sorry for any confusion this post caused (it caused me a lot of confusion while writing it!) Carcharoth 02:42, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]