User talk:Jc8471

The following may sound patronizing but there is no ill intent. Your edit reminds me of the position proposed by the sovereign citizen/freeman on the land groups. I understand you may have had an unpleasant history with state agents and were looking for something to understand a system that doesn't seem just and correct. When you are dealing with cops you should remember, they are an indiscriminate hammer of the system. They don't care if you are a nail or a screw. If you try to deal with them with logic or legal opinions, you will be met with physical force. When you are in court you are dealing with a judge who has already made up their mind and no presentation of legal opinions to oppose that will get them to change their opinion. A judge can dismiss a correct legal position off hand with little consequences. I would suggest you look into Marc Stevens. He is a radio host Who discusses court processes twice weekly the method he uses it to challenge the applicability of the law itself. If you just had an instinctual "of course it applies, I'm here in %state%, the laws apply" type of reaction, I would ask you. How does your physical presence prove the constitution or any laws created under it create an obligation for you to do/not-do action X. https://www.youtube.com/user/nostateproject/videos — Eagle eyed sparrow (talk) 18:15, 23 July 2017 (UTC)