User talk:Jbhunley/Archives/2015/June

New Page Patrol

Hi. Thank you for patrolling new pages. When you tag articles as you did at Coordination Office for the Preservation of the Written Cultural Heritage, please consider using the message feature to inform the creator. 'Wikipedia is the encyclopedia can edit' often leaves new users with the impression that we do not have any rules or guidelines for article creation. Helping them by keeping them informed may help grow our contributor base. If you are not sure how to maximise the full potential of the Page Curation tool, don't hesitate to drop me a line. Cheers, --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:32, 11 June 2015 (UTC}

@Kudpung: Will do. I thought the Curation Tool left messages about the issues. Does it only do that if you leave a note? I have some stock messages I edit for other issues so I can write a some for curation issues. Is there something other than WP:FIRST which gives a good one screen tutorial on article standards? (It is often hard to know the experience of an editor without checking them in XTools for every article, which seems excessive, and treating a non-newbie seems to get much worse responses.) If not I can draft one similar to User:Jbhunley/Common policy misunderstandings and User:Jbhunley/How to edit talk pages which I sometimes use for new users or possibly some two-line notes phrased as 'reminders'. Any suggestions? Jbh^Talk 13:54, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

@Kudpung:I see from looking at that user's talk page that it does not even seem to leave a 'patroled' message. Based on the note you left there would something like:

Hi, my name is XXXX. I have just read your new article YYYY and have notices some ways it needs to be improved to meet Wikipedia's standards. I have tagged the article with the specific issues. Please feel free to contact me on my talk page if you have any questions. You can also stop by The Teahouse where there are very friendly volunteers who can be a great help. Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia.

be an appropriate message? Any suggestions on wording? Jbh^Talk 14:07, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

(edit conflict)::You need to let the user know in your own words what you have tagged. It only leaves automated messages when the article is tagged for one of the forms of deletion or COPYVIO. If there is only one issue to be addressed I usually leave a short note with a link to the related guideline, such as for example: "Your article has a lot of naked URLs. I have cleaned up the firsrt few for you so that you can see how it's done, perhaps you could take a moment now to do the others. More help & info at WP:CITE" oherwise I often paste my standard message "Thank you for creating XXX. I have tagged the articles as having some problems, please consider returning to the article and addressing those issues." If you want to know exacttly the degree or tone your message should take, you can easily see the user's experience by clicking on the info button.

I know this all looks like a lot of work, but it is exactly what patrollers are supposed to be doing. For more information I recommend you also read WP:NPP and Wikipedia:Page Curation/Help. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 14:24, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

@Kudpung: OK. Thank you. Extra work is not really an issue. The whole purpose of the exercise is to pass otherwise unproductive time by doing something useful. Jbh^Talk 14:29, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Hamed Zarei for afd

Hi I need Some time please give me some time to I collect reference.

@Pepole made: As I mentioned on your talk page the AfD will run for at least seven days and I have no control over it beyond making the initial nomination. See my reply on your talk page for more information. Also please remember to sign your talk page posts with ~~~~ which will insert your user name and a time stamp. Jbh^Talk 19:33, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

@jbhunley Thank You so much. I will collect some reference. and I will Send it for you. Please Say other adminastraterstrators to dont delete my article to I collect some References.

@Pepole made: All you need to do is improve the article with the references. I am not an administrator here, just an editor like you. Also please remember to sign your talk page posts with ~~~~ which will insert your user name and a time stamp and read the 'How to edit talk pages' link I sent you. Other editors here respond much better when you communicate better. All anyone sees or knows about you here is how you present yourself when editing. Please take the time to learn how to do so properly. Cheers. Jbh^Talk 20:06, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

I find a good reference please dont delete my article 

Link 1 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubme hamed zarei on sums.ac.ir @jbhunley — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pepole made (talk • contribs) 10:11, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

@jbhunley Thank You Very much, I add The references and I Delete The AFD massage, Becuse I talk to one of the Administrators and he said You Can Delete The AFD massage and I Delete it Please Dont Replace The AFD massage.

@Pepole made: No you are not allowed to delete the AfD message from the article. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:14, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

@Jbhunley:Hi

I have Found Some References to Improve the Hamed Zarei's Article. Link http://researchgate.net/profile/Hamed_Zarei8 The others will be sent as soon as possible.109.203.191.192 (talk) 12:59, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

@109.203.191.192: Thank you for the link. Unfortunately ResearchGate is not what we call a reliable source ie it is not published by an independent third party with a reputation for editorial control and fact checking. Also, please bring your sources to the talk page of the article so discussion can take place in a centralized location and other editors, who do not watch my talk page, will be able to contribute to the discussion. Cheers. Jbh^Talk 13:31, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Draft: Adi Hasak

Hi. thank you for your help in editing the page I started. I believe I fixed the problem and linked to a reliable source so I removed the edit - was there something else you were recommending I fix? Thanks in advance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jhasak (talk • contribs) 13:10, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

@Jhasak: The citations are likely good enough to get rid of the BLPPROD but they are only bare mentions of the subject. What is needed are articles in independent, third party reliable sources which talk about the subject ie a major portion of the article is dedicated to the subject not just a quote or mention. Without that the article will fail our general notability guidelines as well as our more specific notability guidelines for authors. The article will be nominated for deletion unless notability notability can be verified

I know there are a lot of 'blue links' in the above but those are the policies and guidelines an article needs to meet for inclusion in Wikipedia. A good place to start is with 'Your first article'.

Based on your user name I need to ask if you have a conflict of interest with the article subject. If so you should restrict your editing to proposing edits and sources on the article talk page for other editors to consider. The reason for this is it is often difficult to maintain a neutral point of view when editing an article about yourself or someone you work with or are related to. You are, of course, free to participate in the deletion discussion if the article is nominated for deletion due to lact of notability.

I will keep the article on my watch list and see if enough coverage can be found. If you need anything you can leave a message on my talk page or, preferably, the article's talk page. Please remember to sign your talk page posts with ~~~~ which will insert your user name and a time stamp. You also might want to read this brief tutorial on editing talk pages. Cheers. Jbh^Talk 14:42, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

@Jhasak:PS you might consider moving the article to Draft:Adi Hasak since right now it is live on the site as Adi Hasak. If you do not object I can move it into Draft space for you. Jbh^Talk 14:45, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi,

Please check the links again. It references Adi Hasak as the creator of Shades of Blue and not simply as a cursory detail. There is no conflict of interest - all the information in there is reliable and objective. Getting more people to edit this as well soon. Thanks for your help .

Jhasak (talk) 14:54, 16 June 2015 (UTC)Jonathan

@Jhasak: Several things. First, thank you for signing your post however posting a comment on the top of a talk page rather than in its proper position id improper. It only takes a few minutes to learn the proper way to properly edit talk pages. I have asked you to do so several times. At this point I feel your not doing so to be disruptive and frankly disrespectful.

Second, you have stated earlier that Adi Hasak is your father. That is the very definition of a conflict of interest. You are understandably proud of your father and from what you have written he has done some really cool things. However, if the sources you have provided are all there are he simply does not meet our notability criteria. I have previously linked our notability guidelines and the requirements for independent, third party reliable sources that talk specificly about him. Please take the time to read them and understand how they apply to your article and its subject. As a COI editor you have a great advantage in that you can just ask your father where there is coverage about him. Regretfully if some better sources are not found I will nominate the article for deletion. Sometimes, as a result of the deletion discussion, other sources can be found which result in the article being improved and kept if it can be brought up to Wikipedia standards. Otherwise it will be deleted. Jbh^Talk 15:25, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Deleted page SDEWES Centre

Dear Jbh, I don't believe that the page should have been deleted, especially not so abruptly (during the night at my local time) - since it's not a citation from the page that was mentioned in nomination and also has references for every paragraph. The page also had more recent information in comparison to http://www.sdewes.org/home.php Eplaner (talk) 06:53, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

@Eplaner: I nominated the page for deletion because it was a copyright violation. Please see the deletion log entry. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. All articles must be written in your own words, not copied from another web site. Please see WP:COPYRIGHT for more information. The administrator who deleted the page is Jimfbleak who I have pinged. It typically requires agreement of at least two people that an article meets our criteria for speedy deletion for an article to be deleted, the nominator and the administrator who reviews the nomination and does the actual deletion.

If you have not done so you should familiarize yourself with Wikipedia's general notability guidelines and Wikipedia's notability guidelines for organizations which must be met before a subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. You should also be familiar with what is a reliable source. If I can be of further help please let me know. You might want to consider our Articles for Creation process or visit the WP:TEAHOUSE where there are very friendly and capable volunteers who can help. Cheers. Jbh^Talk 09:49, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

@Eplaner:, The article was a copyright violation. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state clearly and explicitly that the text is public domain. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient. Because copyright is a legal issue, there is nothing to discuss, which is why it was speedied. The text was also was written in a promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic, but the original had spammy claims of success and importance. I made [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=SDEWES_Centre&diff=667451811&oldid=667398457 these edits, mainly MoS. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:26, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Talk:InterContinental Asiana Saigon.

Thanks, I've replied directly and deleted the TP, Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:48, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

why?

why did you do this - [1]? Coolabahapple (talk) 01:58, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

@Coolabahapple: Ooppss.. That has happened several times today. I didn't see that one. Thanks for catching it. My browser has been taking a while to load WikiEd (sometimes not loading it at all) when I start editing pages so when/if it finally loads my cursor jumps to the top of the page for a second. I do not know why it is happening but it has done so several times in the last day or so. Sorry. Jbh^Talk 02:06, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

no probs Coolabahapple (talk) 02:18, 19 June 2015 (UTC)