User talk:Jayhammers

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February 2010

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Domestic violence. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. NeilN ^{talk to me} 03:55, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your talk page comments

Hi Jayhammers. Comments like this one [1] on talk pages aren't such a great idea. It's great that you feel so passionate about something but talk pages aren't supposed to be used as an outlet for your rants about censorship by what you perceive as Wikipedia's "feminist misandrist man haters." Thanks, I guess.Sonicyouth86 (talk) 00:16, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I see that you haven't edited for months. Okay, my comment isn't really relevant then. Sonicyouth86 (talk) 00:19, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
	For ensuring neutrality through the long haul. LegrisKe (talk) 04:21, 13 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

your user page

Please refactor your userpage so as to not include attacks directed at other Wikipedia editors. Thanks, Kevin (talk) 05:35, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your edits to Men's rights movement

Hi, please note that copy-and-paste moves such as the one you did at Men's rights movement aren't allowed. This is because first, they duplicate the existing article, and second, they screw up the chain of attribution for who wrote what text. Please don't do this again; if you feel that the Men's Rights Movement needs a separate article, you'll need to create a new article about the Men's Rights Movement with content specific to that. Just forking a past version of an article you don't like to a new article name isn't ok. If you don't like what Men's rights says, the correct approach is to discuss the content on its talk page until a consensus can be reached. POV forking really isn't an workable, or allowable, solution. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 22:58, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The editors there have decided that "men's rights" is not the same thing as the "men's rights movement". Therefore I have started a page that details the "men's rights movement". Since the men's rights page is apparently supposed to be likened to the women's rights page, we must have a separate page for the men's rights movement itself, just as feminism has its own separate page. That's what the men's rights movement page is for. Other users removed all the men's rights movement content from the "men's rights" page, and therefore I have created a specific page for the "men's rights movement". Jayhammers (talk) 23:48, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hm, let me say it a little more clearly: you're committing copyright violations by pasting in text there without attribution. I've protected the page to prevent you from continuing with this (the other option is to block you until you understand our copyright policies, but I don't feel that's necessary as of yet, if you'll just take a moment to read up on them). You need to understand that copying and pasting, no matter how unfairly you were treated at another article, isn't permitted, and you need to stop carrying them out. No matter how much consensus you feel you have for doing it, "no copyright violations" is a hard rule that simply may not be ignored.

In addition, you are edit warring over replacing this content. Completely independently of the copyright status or consensus you feel you have, you must still adhere to the three revert rule. It's a moot point on that page at the moment, since I've protected it, but please be aware that on that or any other page, edit warring is not permitted. If someone reverts you, you must discuss, not revert them back, and if you revert someone multiple times, you are very likely to be blocked. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 00:16, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, I'm committing no copyright violations, as not only did I write much of what's already there, but when we authored the original men's rights page it was all for Wikipedia. Also, I'm inciting no edit war - the people trying to revert an entire section to a blank page are.Jayhammers (talk) 00:35, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Content on Wikipedia can be freely copied to other portions of Wikipedia without violating any copyright issues. Since you have vandalized the men's rights movement page I will be reporting your actions now.Jayhammers (talk) 00:39, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You cannot copy content between pages without providing proper attribution, it's a requirement of the CC-BY-SA license that Wikipedia content is offered under. Additionally, it is inappropriate for you to try to be forking that content off anyway, since the content contains huge number of problems that have been discussed in great detail on the men's rights talk page, including WP:NOR and WP:SYNTH issues, and the gross misinterpretation of used sources. Although a men's rights movement page is probably appropriate, it needs to be reliably sourced, free of original research, neutral, and in line with our other content policies. Kevin (talk) 00:44, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Right, kgorman said what I'm trying to explain to you: Even Wikipedia text is under a license, and you can't just copy and paste it elsewhere on Wikipedia - it still requires attribution, or else it's a violation of the copyright of the people who wrote the text. It doesn't matter if you wrote "much of" it - unless you wrote all of it, your cutting and pasting it into a new article is essentially you claiming the copyright for someone else's work, and that's a copyright violation. Please believe me when I say that if you understood our licensing policies, linked to in my comments above and in the text just above the edit summary box in every edit window, you'd understand that text on Wikipedia can not be freely copied elsewhere on Wikipedia without attribution. You're welcome to report me anywhere you'd like, but I would suggest familiarising yourself with both our copyright policies and WP:BOOMERANG before you do.A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 00:45, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

October 2011

Please do not attack other editors, as you did at Men's rights. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Kaldari (talk) 23:20, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please spare me. Defacement of pages while feigning neutrality damages the community far more than any personal attack ever could. If Wikipedia editors are unwilling to discipline vandals, and they certainly have shown they are unwilling, they have only themselves to blame for the inevitable response. Jayhammers (talk) 23:50, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User page

Do not create pages that attack, threaten, or disparage their subject. Attack pages and files are not tolerated by Wikipedia and are speedily deleted. Users who create or add such material may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. User:Fred Bauder Talk 01:08, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Would you please try to rephrase your user page so that it does not accuse editors of being biased liars? Voicing your complaints about articles you feel are biased is not an issue. User:Fred Bauder Talk 14:55, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

May I suggest: "I am a men's rights activist. You may learn more here: http://jayhammers.blogspot.com

I am well-aware of Wikipedia editors' tendencies to hide the facts of feminism, men's rights, domestic violence, false rape accusations, etc., so I've largely given up trying to influence Wikipedia pages." which expresses your grievances without attacking other editors. User:Fred Bauder Talk 17:32, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Formal mediation has been requested

The Mediation Committee has received a request for formal mediation of the dispute relating to "men's rights movement". As an editor concerned in this dispute, you are invited to participate in the mediation. Mediation is a voluntary process which resolves a dispute over article content by facilitation, consensus-building, and compromise among the involved editors. After reviewing the request page, the formal mediation policy, and the guide to formal mediation, please indicate in the "party agreement" section whether you agree to participate. Because requests must be responded to by the Mediation Committee within seven days, please respond to the request by November 29, 2011.

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You have been blocked from editing for a period of two weeks for attempting to harass other users, as you did at User_talk:Kgorman-ucb. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. — Joseph Fox 13:27, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Request for mediation rejected

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Dispute opened by Hermiod against Kgorman-ucb about men's rights

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Notice of article probation on Men's rights

Thank you for your contributions to the encyclopedia! In case you are not already aware, an article to which you have recently contributed, Men's rights, is on article probation. A detailed description of the terms of article probation may be found at Talk:Men's rights/Article probation. Also note that the terms of some article probations extend to related articles and their associated talk pages.

The above is a templated message. Please accept it as a routine friendly notice, not as a claim that there is any problem with your edits. Thank you. -- KillerChihuahua^?!? 17:00, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

November 2011

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for block evasion and socking.. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Alexandria (talk) 23:26, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]