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Hello, JamesKlun, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you edited was MicroSolved, which appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{Help me}} before the question. Again, welcome! GSS (talk|c|em) 16:13, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well indeed I am an employee of the company - but I did strive to cite independently verifiable sources and to avoid any overt marketing tone. I have some minor experience with Wikipedia edits (Egress filtering) - but it has been a while. I will review the doc you have listed above. Is there any basic issue in the content that violates standards? Would this have been successful if I had done my edits from another account? JamesKlun (talk) 17:08, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, please review the disclosure requirements for paid editors and make sure you comply with them. Hiding your conflict of interest instead of disclosing it clearly is not the ethical route, so let's not go there. If the page you wrote hadn't been turned into a draft, it would have been nominated for deletion because it doesn't establish that the company is notable and doesn't show that it has been subject of significant coverage in reliable third-party sources such as newspapers or reputable magazines (it cites no such sources at all). Huon (talk) 18:27, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks - I totally understand the "conflict of interest" issue and will take steps to make sure my next attempt makes that clear. The "cites no such sources" comment does confuse me a bit as I would think the verifiable external patent records and documented research for state and federal US government would suffice. More is required? Separately - how should I proceed? Make the changes that I believe put me in compliance and then solicit review?

We would like your COI disclosed on your user page User:JamesKlun.
Notability sources are not just reliable sources. They are sources that are independent of the subject and which allow one to conclude that the subject is of more than ordinary interest to the world at large. Patents all by themselves do not support notability. Most research for state and federal agencies does not, all by itself, support notability. Best are in-depth journalistic sources published by operations with a reputation for editorial control and fact-checking. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 21:30, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Can I work under the assumption that the entries at "Category:Computer_security_companies" are useful models? JamesKlun (talk) 21:28, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No; see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. In fact, I've just proposed two of those articles for deletion, many others bear various kinds of maintenance tags. Huon (talk) 22:57, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
When looking for models to emulate, only articles marked as GA "good article" or FA "featured article" have been through the sort of rigorous review that might make them worthy examples of how a WP article should look. The quality of anything else is uncertain. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 00:06, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:Good articles and WP:Featured articles for specific examples. Huon (talk) 08:54, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

My intent now is simply to write an article that will meet standards and that I believe is worthy of inclusion in the Wikipedia for historical reasons: The US State of Ohio's 2007 project "Everest" - an analysis of voting machine security: https://votingmachines.procon.org/sourcefiles/Everest.pdf Makes sense? JamesKlun (talk) 15:37, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It may be that an article can be written about the project; the first secondary coverage I found that mentioned it was Scientific American. I'd advise you to first see if there's enough sources to add a section to the Voting-machine problems article. Remember that we are looking for notability references, so I'm not sure Usenix papers count towards that, but can certainly be used as references. Don't miss the opportunity to look at and improve other voting machine and computer security articles. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 18:05, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:MicroSolved

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Hello, JamesKlun. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "MicroSolved".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. DannyS712 (talk) 08:32, 6 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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