User talk:Jacksonpanix

Welcome!

Welcome to Wikipedia, Jacksonpanix! Thank you for your contributions. I am Mysdaao and have been editing Wikipedia for quite some time, so if you have any questions feel free to leave me a message on my talk page. You can also check out Wikipedia:Questions or type {{helpme}} at the bottom of this page. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

Also, when you post on talk pages you should sign your name using four tildes (~~~~); that will automatically produce your username and the date. I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian!

Mysdaao ^talk 13:26, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: The Night Pastor (Reverend Robert H. Own) (May 8)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by S0091 were:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Most of the content is unsourced and some of the sources are not reliable (ex. Discogs, Abebooks, etc.).

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:The Night Pastor (Reverend Robert H. Own) and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

S0091 (talk) 20:14, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Jacksonpanix! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! S0091 (talk) 20:14, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Some guidance

Hi Jacksonpanix, saw your note at the helpdesk. Sources do not need to be available online but they do need to be published and accessible even if it requires library resources, such as newspaper and magazine archives. You just need enough information to cite it "manually" (author, date, title, publication, etc.). I will search some resources available at the WP:Library such as Newspapers.com (you do not meet the criteria for Wikipedia Library access but you can use your local library, if inclined). Also, you should be using the book as a source, summarizing some key points to write the article, rather than just stating a book was written about him. I removed the Abe citation and added a "proper" citation for the book. Also, I would trim some of info about the albums, the quote and members especially, as it does not appear he is notable as a musician and the article is about him, the person, not the albums. I am sure there is a way to cite the album directly but will have to dig around to figure out how. In the interim, I removed Discogs and used AllMusic which is an acceptable source. S0091 (talk) 17:58, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I found some sources in newspaper archives so have added them and also found he was featured in another book. While I don't have access to the book, there is a book review about it which I added as source. He certainly is notable so I have started laying out some structure to the draft, which I hope you follow and jump in. S0091 (talk) 19:07, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for your help and for adding the references. I made some small edits today and will take another look tomorrow.

I'm curious if you can tell me why AllMusic is an acceptable resource, but Discogs is not? Jacksonpanix (talk) 01:32, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Great question! Discogs is user-generated with no editorial oversight (like Wikipedia, which is also not a reliable source) while AllMusic has editorial oversight and fact-checking. However not all AllMusic content is considered reliable. Only the content written by staff so user reviews are not usable, etc. You can read more about music sources at WP:WikiProject Albums/Sources and some common general sources at WP:RSP, if interested. I will try to get back to the draft over the next week and I will also try to do "clippings" of the newspapers sources which I think will allow you to be able read them. S0091 (talk) 14:12, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you do not see me working on the draft in the next week or so, please remind me on my talk page (click the "talk" link by my signature to leave me a message). I am interested but may forget. S0091 (talk) 19:20, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:The Night Pastor (Reverend Robert H. Own)

Hello, Jacksonpanix. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:The Night Pastor (Reverend Robert H. Own), a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 08:05, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]