User talk:Jack 1314/Archive 1

Welcome!

Hello Jack 1314, welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Our intro page contains a lot of helpful material for new users—please check it out! If you need help, visit Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on this page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. TFOWR 13:03, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

...are you getting sick and tired of my templated welcomes, yet?! Anyway... very glad to see you're back - it wasn't the same without you... TFOWR 13:04, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I was ready to ask you if you were addicted to welcome templates. If you ever retire and come back again I'll reciprocate the welcome. ;) Jack 1314 (talk) 13:09, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Changing username/Usurpations - might be useful? You could see if, ooh, I dunno, "Jack forbes" is available? ;-) TFOWR 13:05, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think I'll keep this name. I quite like the numbers element of it. Jack 1314 (talk) 13:09, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fairy Nuff! From a privacy standpoint, it's good to be independent of your old username ;-) Though I did just spend a considerable amount of time coming up with Bob's yir uncle jokes about the ease of the WP:USURP process... TFOWR 14:14, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1314 in your name? The Battle of Bannockburn, I presume. GoodDay (talk) 14:20, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ps: See what happens to me, when you leave Wiki? I get into trouble. GoodDay (talk) 14:22, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Croeso yn ol, Jack. Welcome back. Really good to see you again. Daicaregos (talk) 14:38, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The only reason I've returned is to look after GoodDay. God knows where he would be without me. ;) 1314, Battle of Bannockburn. I'm pretty sure I remember being there. Ahh, those were the days. Jack 1314 (talk) 14:48, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GoodDay should be worried I think. Last Jack I heard of that uttered "I'm Back" looked like this. --HighKing (talk) 17:07, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Where did you get my photo! Jack 1314 (talk) 17:15, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Here's Johnny... (no, not Carson). GoodDay (talk) 20:17, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Preferences

Yo Jack, please go to your 'my preferences' tab; 'user profile' tab; scroll down to 'e-mail options'; enter your email address and check the 'Enable e-mail from other users' box. That way, we can still keep in touch the next time you retire, as it may be terminal. Cheers, Daicaregos (talk) 16:42, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
btw, how are the Munros?

That's my e-mail enabled, Dai. Not seen a Munro for a while but I'm sure their doing just fine without me. I'll have to pay them a visit sometime soon(ish). Jack 1314 (talk) 17:10, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

BI combatants

It's good to see that LB & HK are working things out. GoodDay (talk) 19:37, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

LOL. Now, I know that was a wee joke. :) Jack 1314 (talk) 19:40, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For sure. GoodDay (talk) 19:42, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If LevenBoy wants the page deleted he should bring the matter up elsewhere, not on the project page itself. Nothing will get done there if every 3rd or 4th comment goes along the lines of: this is a disgrace, this place shouldn't even exist. I'm not going to say that I would agree with all of HighKings edits, but I do feel he is being ganged up on and bullied by those who would rather see him gone from the project. I'm coming along to your idea of cutting down on the amount of cases that can be brought up there at the one time. Not sure about only one, maybe two or three. Jack 1314 (talk) 19:48, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Trust me, 1 case at a time, is the only way. HK & LB's zeal must be curbed, for their own sake. GoodDay (talk) 19:54, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've made a statement at the probation page. Jack 1314 (talk) 19:57, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

British and Irish Isles alwasy seemed a cool name (British going first, due to being geographically larger). GoodDay (talk) 20:03, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good luck implementing that! :) Jack 1314 (talk) 20:05, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, there'd be complaints of "Why not Irish and British Isles", giggle giggle. GoodDay (talk) 20:10, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of national capitals

Hiya Jack, I noticed you referenced List of national capitals at WP:ECCN#Northern Ireland Demonym the other day. Although I'm pleased to see the subject is on your mind, I am curious as to why no Scottish editors have made an appearance at the article Talkpage. I am amazed they don't seem to care whether Edinburgh is in a list of national capitals or not. What's your thoughts? Daicaregos (talk) 07:03, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your guess is as good as mine, Dai. If I could see into the minds of my fellow Scots I might be able to understand why the majority of them don't want our country to be independent. It's a mystery (both of them) that may never be solved. Jack 1314 (talk) 10:32, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is, as you say, a mystery. But welcome to the party. Daicaregos (talk) 10:35, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I could try explaining to you why a majority of Scottish people do not support the break up of the United Kingdom if you want. Let me know. BritishWatcher (talk) 11:05, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No thanks. I'd rather you keep your British Nationlalist opinion to yourself. Jack 1314 (talk) 11:15, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

lol as you wish BritishWatcher (talk) 11:20, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of national capitals

Hi Jack, personally I don't mind whether the non-sovereign entities are italicised or not, but other editors may feel differently. Regards, --Pondle (talk) 22:16, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the quick reply pondle. I may ask at the page tomorrow and see what others think. It's not a massive deal but I'd like to know if others find it a little hard to read as I do. Maybe I'm too tired and my eyes are a little bleary tonight. :) Jack 1314 (talk) 22:20, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Forteviot Bronze Age tomb

Have you seen this? It has some useful links as well as a bibliography. I may find more sources, but I reckon the papers simply regurgitated the press release from Driscoll, Brophy & Noble. Noble has provided contact details, so he may agree to let you have further info, check the article when you think it's ready, or at least point you in the right direction. Daicaregos (talk) 14:40, 30 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good link, Dai. Not sure Dr Noble would appreciate an amateur wikipedian bothering him for details. I guess there would be no harm in asking but we'll see. As you say though, a lot of the papers will regurgitate the press releases with some giving a little more detail than others. Thanks for the suggestions, Dai, your a great help. Jack 1314 (talk) 14:52, 30 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

He can choose not to reply, or just to bugger off. Chances are though, that he shares your enthusiasm for the site and would probably like others to enjoy it too. Wouldn't he be likely to want the Wikipedia article to be accurate, up to date and interesting? Best to wait until you've gathered all the information you can and the article is as good as it could be without a professional's help. I'm still looking, but I've found a couple more: Even though this is a blog, so isn't a WP:RS, it is full of useful stuff. [http://www.britarch.ac.uk/ba/ba110/news.shtml This seems to imply continuity from the Late Neolithic to Early Bronze Age (in my view they were essentially the same people, but their technology improved). And I'm just about to add an infobox to the page. If you want to add its Gàidhlig name just add this after the name in English "<br>({{lang-gd|càrn (whatever Bronze Age Forteviot is in Gàidhlig)}})". Cheers, Daicaregos (talk) 15:04, 30 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I added the infobox. I'm not sure if you use Gàidhlig on the Scottish infoboxes or not. If not, or you don't like it there, please feel free to delete them. Daicaregos (talk) 16:31, 30 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's grand, Dai. The Gaelic is just fine too. Just because I don't speak my native language doesn't mean it shouldn't be there. Teach it to all the Scottish schoolkids is what I say. Jack 1314 (talk) 16:44, 30 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Quite agree.
Here's a couple of images from Flickr: Pictish Burial, cist, (from the open day) and cist, same day. The cists are good. Daicaregos (talk) 16:45, 30 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The photos look good. Now don't laugh at me, Dai. Until a few years ago I was an out and out luddite. I take it these photos can be downloaded to commons? Ahem! Any idea how? Jack 1314 (talk) 16:57, 30 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In case you missed my Help desk reply

See the links under Commons:COM:EIC#Flickr if you want to use one of the various automated or semi-automated tools. For example, I documented some examples of my uploads using Flominator's Flinfo tool (see Commons:User:Teratornis/Flickr examples). You can only upload photos from Flickr to Commons if they have the correct (free) licensing; you can search for such photos with {{Flickr free}}. The great majority of photos on Flickr are not free; however, since Flickr has billions of photos, that still leaves millions of free photos that may land within the project scope of Commons. --Teratornis (talk) 18:09, 30 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Teratornis. That'll be a great help. Cheers. Jack 1314 (talk) 18:21, 30 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alex Salmond

Taking this off the talk page because the matter's deid now ;-)

I appreciate he's Scottish - that's not what I'm getting at. My point is that it may be correct to describe him as "a British politician", in the same way it might be correct to describe a politician as "a European politician" if they represented Glasgow, say, in the European Parliament. Now, I'm not saying I'm right - or even that this is my position, I'm just, I dunno...! So, no question he's Scottish - it's the politician part I'm wittering about.

Does that make sense? TFOWR 16:40, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I can understand your thinking, TFOWR. The thing is though, he is not a British politician in the sense that he no longer sits in Westminster (I would still call him Scottish if he did). We can't say he is a former British politician. Well, we could, but that would look silly when we know that he is now a Scottish politician who only represents Scotland in the Scottish Government. A couple of other points I'd like to make is that I've yet to see you witter and I'm not a Dutchman. ;) Jack 1314 (talk) 16:52, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tendentious editing

Jack, I think you'll find, i you take the trouble to check, that I have not accused anyone of tendentious editing. On the other hand, I may have voice my support of someone who did. Just for the record. Cheers, --Kudpung (talk) 22:02, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have checked and your post speaks for itself, as does this one. Jack 1314 (talk) 22:26, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I agree. That' why we have TE in our catalog of acronyms. I'm firmly convinced it was one of the reasons why your article got logjammed. No one need feel guilty about discussing possible causes. Those who have genuinely comitted time and energy into getting the article back on the rails without an ulterior motive, have acted in a cool and civil manner to each other.--Kudpung (talk) 22:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You're a strange one. Perhaps the next time you are asked for an explanation you will answer instead of throwing out acronyms. Bye now. Jack 1314 (talk) 22:55, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I thought the heading said it. Do check out WP:TE - point being that if Wikipedia policy has a section about it, then it exists and cases of it can be discussed. If I've made an error somwhere, don't hesitate to let me know. --Kudpung (talk) 23:14, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You did indeed make an error. Your error was in accusing another editor of WP:TE. Saying that you didn't accuse anyone of tendentious editing because you were only voicing support is a little misleading, as I'm sure you know that the editor who first accused Dai withdrew it before you decided to support him. I'm still unsure why you were asked to mediate on the list of European countries debate when you had already made your opinions known. It was no surprise to me that you didn't seem that keen on supplying the reliable sources that confirmed Scotland, Wales etc as countries even when you were pointed to them. When you are asked among other things why you didn't mention them (and you don't answer) that is not tendentious editing by the editor asking. One more piece of advice for you. You obviously don't like dragons, but it's only good manners to post to the editor concerned when you want to infer something about an image on their user page. Jack 1314 (talk) 23:26, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]