User talk:JRobson123

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Speedy deletion nomination of User:JRobson123

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A tag has been placed on User:JRobson123, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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May 2024

Hello, JRobson123. This is your user talk page; the purpose of this page is notification and communication with other Wikipedia editors. It is not a workspace for articles in progress or for self-promotion. Please use your user sandbox or the draft article space to practice editing or to create new articles. Thank you. Drm310 🍁 (talk) 22:06, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. Your user page may not meet Wikipedia's user page guidelines. It is intended for basic information about yourself, your interests and goals as they relate to editing Wikipedia, as well as disclosures of conflicts of interest and paid editing. Although a lot of freedom is allowed in personalizing your user page, it is not:

an encyclopedia article (and should not be styled to look like one)
a workspace for a draft article
a personal website, blog, or social media site
a space for self-promotion or other advertising
a CV, resumé or lengthy autobiography

The user page guidelines have additional information on what is and what is not considered acceptable content. Please use your user sandbox or the draft article space to practice editing or to create new articles. Thank you. Drm310 🍁 (talk) 22:06, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello DRM310:

Thank you for your suggestions and review. I do, of course, want to be compatible with you platform. I am happy to receive feedback from you about how this is suppose to be more "encyclopedic" . However, I did not embellish or make hyperbole in my presentation. Everything is "factual". Nothing is endorsed. I just took a quick look at how eBay is described at Wikipedia, and I believe many of the same elements there are in my description of LostAndFound.com. I omitted our hometown of Austin, TX (which I will add), but we don't have a rich history to talk about. In addition, our services are quite unique online, and I believe people would be interested in knowing what is offered.

As was instructed, I indicated that the source was an employee. What more would you suggest to do? I rewrite does what? What would you suggest I include in a rewrite? Thank you for your time. I know you are a volunteer.

Thanks

James JRobson123 (talk) 22:19, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm reading this explanation of SPAM and while my article does contain external links (they are all relevant to the topic) more importantly, my article "DOES NOT contain any sales oriented language" (Wikispam articles are usually noted for sales-oriented language)

In fact the basic services ARE FREE for consumers and mobile users. Value added services are for sale, but those are elective, and should be known to the user to maximize the effectiveness of the website. Thanks JRobson123 (talk) 22:24, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a business directory, so a company is not entitled to have a Wikipedia article just because it exists. All topics must be notable by Wikipedia's definition to merit inclusion. In the specific case of a company, it must meet the notability criteria for companies and organizations. For this to happen, the company must have already received significant coverage in multiple reliable and independent sources. We have no interest in what a company wishes to say about itself, as this is an inherent conflict of interest. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 22:30, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, LostAndFound.com has over 200K+ users - when does something become notable? What other resource is anything like this? Just because the media says something? There are plenty of descriptions of individuals here at Wikipedia who would deserve far less attention and relevance than LostAndFOund.com yet they are still here.

What do you suggest I do?

Thanks

James JRobson123 (talk) 22:35, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I think I get your point. Wikipedia won't even consider us unless we are mentioned in mass media? OK, Well that is coming soon, so what to do? I'd really appreciate NOT DELETING this as it took me all day to do. Can I just remain unpublished until we meet your criteria?

Thanks

James JRobson123 (talk) 22:39, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are several things you could do:

Review, understand and abide by the terms of Wikipedia's mandatory and non-negotiable policy on disclosure of paid editing
Become familiar with the conflict of interest guide and how it applies to you
Learn what Wikipedia considers to be reliable and independent sources
Review our policy on neutral point of view
Start a draft article using the article wizard
Realize that your article may not be accepted if your draft is not neutrally written, inadequately or poorly sourced, or fails to demonstrate sufficient notability
Accept the fact that if your article is accepted for publication, you won't have any right of ownership or control over its content

--Drm310 🍁 (talk) 22:56, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1,2) I made the disclosure regarding conflict of interest and put that code in the title as instructed.

3) I don't think Wikipedia regards an employee as "unreliable" if anything its the opposite.

4) There are no claims made here that aren't fact. Even when I suggested user success stories I hyperlinked linked their comments.

5) That's what I thought I did.

6) I think I've already demonstrated notability in my details to you

7) No problem. I dont own Wikipedia. So be it!

Thanks

James JRobson123 (talk) 23:06, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Where did the article go btw? Thx James JRobson123 (talk) 23:17, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Drm310:

OK I just created another version in my sandbox. Can you look there and tell me what you think? I only put in 3 hyperlinks: 1) About usercomments 2) To link to ios for the app 3) to link to google play for the app.

I added our hometown. I will add the conflict thing in the title.

Thanks

James JRobson123 (talk) 23:46, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your content from your userpage was deleted under the criteria for speedy deletion called "A non-contributor's misuse of Wikipedia as a web host". I did not delete this; only a user with administrator privileges has that authority.

You did not follow the instructions for disclosure properly. Because you are an employee of the company you're writing about, you are automatically considered to be a paid editor. This means you must disclose by doing the following:

Place the {{paid}} template on your userpage (User:JRobson123) with the following code: {{paid|employer=LostAndFound.com}}
Place the {{connected contributor (paid)}} template on the talk page of your sandbox (User talk:JRobson123/sandbox; not in the sandbox article space itself): {{connected contributor (paid) |User1=JRobson123 |U1-EH=yes |U1-employer=LostAndFound.com |U1-otherlinks=Disclosure on userpage.}}

As an employee, you are considered a primary source. That is the type of source we don't want. We don't care about how great and important an insider thinks the company is. Wikipedia articles summarize what outside sources have chosen on their own to publish about a topic. These sources have to be both reliable (having an established reputation for fact-checking and editorial oversight) and independent (having no financial, political or personal stake in the topic under discussion).

I can tell you now that as is, your draft article contains no references to third-party sources that establish this as a notable company. Wikipedia's criteria for this is located here: Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies).

The article also looks like a giant sales pitch to attract customers. An exhaustive description of your company's products and services will only be seen as promotion, and won't be accepted. We don't want your summary of what your company does; we want a summary of what independent sources have written about it.

So there you have it. Until your company attracts enough attention from trusted, mainstream sources, it won't merit inclusion. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 02:30, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for being a dunce, but where exactly do I put this code if not in the box below on these pages? The titles dont hyperlink to change...

(template code removed by Drm310) JRobson123 (talk) 15:47, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Red links indicate pages that don't exist. You just click them anyway to create the page.

I have placed the templates on both pages on your behalf, so you don't have to do anything else for now, other than seek better sources. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 16:31, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]