User talk:Izmir lee

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Diplomatic missions by country

The comprimise solution we have developed is that Turkish diplomatic missions can be listed under "Asia", not "Europe". This follows the United Nations Geocode system. Kransky (talk) 00:01, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for making the changes for Cyprus. Other countries that are listed (by some articles) in Europe which should be in Asia include Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikstan, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan. Could you please move those countries, as well as all countries listed as "Middle East" to Asia. Also tell me if you want to be involved in the International Relations project Kransky (talk) 23:12, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My image page

Hello Izmir lee. You made an edit and changed an image in my personal image gallery ,in a sub-page of my user-dominion - please do not do so again! This is a big breach of wikipedia rules and etiquette - one does not change, basically, an user page (only in very rare and extreme circunstances), and doing so can be considered vandalism. Please refrain from doing so again. Thank you. The Ogre (talk) 11:56, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Turkey or Bulgaria

I am not sure what you sent a message about it does not have a topic and it has no point? Sparrowman980 (talk) 14:20, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see what you are saying now i will fix the problem. Sparrowman980 (talk) 16:27, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Problem has been fixed tell me if there are anymore. Sparrowman980 (talk) 19:09, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Maps

Hi. It looks you have been stealing a map from another user and trying to submit it as your own piece of work. This is the original map [1], this is the map you uploaded [2] and then inserted into the article instead of the original map [3]. Would you care to explain this action? Such offenses are both illegal and immoral. JdeJ (talk) 09:22, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

European?

Whoever gave you poor Turks the idea that you can even consider yourself European. Do you realize you have nothing that would enable you to use this title? This is rather pathetic, don't you have your own identity? Koalorka (talk) 05:26, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Some small problems on List of largest flags

Hi İzmirli, some anonymous user has been giving me a hard time on List of largest flags, making a lot of nationalist comments. Could you, if you have the time, look it up and help me out? I feel drowned!! --Eae1983 (talk) 22:06, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PS: Bu arada üstteki yorumda ("whoever gave you poor Turks the idea that you can even consider yourself European?") adam alenen ırkçılık yapmış, hemen bas şikâyeti!

Sana şimdi açık olarak adres veremiyeceğim ama benim son yazıştığım sayfalara bi bakar mısın? Ülke'mizin altındaki ikiye bölünmüş küçük adayla ilgili büyük büyük sancaklar hakkında bişeyleri silmek istiyorlar, hatta oylama sayfası yapmışlar (yukarıdaki listebaşında ismi büyük sancaklı olan makaleye bak özellikle). Garip konuşuyorum, yazışmalarım takip ediliyor, uluslararası ve anlayabilecekleri kelime kullanmamaya gayret ettim. Müsait bi zamanında bütün bizim çevreye ve bu ansiklopedi'deki vatandaşlarımıza yayar mısın lüfen? Bizlere resmen küfredilmekte.

Selamlar! --Eae1983 (talk) 15:23, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Location Turkey in Europe.png

Hello. It seems that Image:Location Turkey in Europe.png also exists on Wikimedia Commons as Commons:Image:Location of the Republic of Turkey.png, but that version does not say that you are the author. Can you let me know if the Commons image is ok, and the one here can be deleted, or if it is wrong and should be updated to show you as the author. Thanks! Angus McLellan (Talk) 09:27, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I will fix the image on Wikimedia Commons so that you are credited for your hard work! Thanks for getting back to me so quickly, Angus McLellan (Talk) 10:34, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

UEFA Euro 2008

Dude, can you not read? I asked you several times to stop updating certain statistics before the end of the match and you carried on. Consider this a warning for disruption. – Pee Jay 20:40, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did to UEFA Euro 2008. Your edits appeared to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. – Pee Jay 16:27, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kurdistan

it is more than enough that you kemalists and turkish chauvinists oppress the Kurds in Turkey (and occasionally in Iraq). Dont do it here on wikipedia. --Vindheim (talk) 13:48, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

please stop your changes to Kurdish people.--Vindheim (talk) 14:33, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your comments on my talkpage do not imply an open mind. I am not a supporter of the PKK, but i have visited Kurdistan several times and know many kurdish people, some of them citizens of Turkey. Yo may be able to persecute people for affirming their kurdish identity inside Turkey, but not outside. --Vindheim (talk) 15:16, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You seem to be against kurds affirming their identity as kurds. Your repeated changes to the pageKurdish people have nothing to do with preventing terrorism, but seem to have a lot to do with affirming Turkish identity. I will request arbitration.--Vindheim (talk) 15:30, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Some people might say that the treatment of Kurds by Turks is not very friendly as of today (understatement). Anyway even the PKK opts for feredalism and not separatism these days. --Vindheim (talk) 15:47, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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June 2008

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EU map

Thank you for correcting the map that I made with mistakes. :-). It was indeed an unforgivable mistake. That day I made nearly three maps and the mistakes went unnoticed by me and other editors as well. however there is one pproblem in your map, It seems like BELARUS is included. Take a look please. : -)--Geographyfanatic (talk) 23:34, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Userboxes of Turkey

Hi there just created some userboxes, if you want to use them then please do. Thankyou. Assalamu Alaykum. Moshin (talk) 19:35, 23 June 2008 (UTC) [4][reply]

- Yo don't edit the userbox like that! Freedom of Speech! Dont know why they should be banned at all, the have developed Turkey so well than any other party, and are looking to go into the EU. Lifting the headscarf ban is actually a big step forward to freedom and democracy in the Turkey. Secular Turkey has become more religious, 60% the majority of the people do not support the Kemalist ideology etc. The AK party is the right choice, no wonder over 40% of the people voted for them! Insha-Allah they do not get banned! Moshin (talk) 12:57, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

--erm... ok then.. now thats what I call 'Secularism gone beyond!' I am so confused, why would someone react like that??? Sorry mate, the Secularism of Turkey will soon disappear, more and more people are becoming religious. The form of Secularism in Turkey as out-dated. Moshin (talk) 13:47, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

-- The AK party is just trying to create freedom for the people who want to wear the headscarves, they are not calling for Sharia law in Turkey. There has to be a balance between the secularists and the religious, and by allowing headscarves is being balanced. Moshin (talk) 14:29, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

-- If it is concerning among my Muslim brothers or sisters who are effected by this, then I have the right to voice my concerns for them, even If I am not Turkish. Moshin (talk) 15:53, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

--OK whatever happens I don't really care, because it does not effect me. But if the AK do fall, who else will run the governments. No other party can match this one, with their political skills in development in Economy. the Turkish people have chosen them because your 'secular' governments could not tackle poverty etc. during the 90s - Then other parties promised the return to Islam will help ease the crisis. And as you can see it has! All for just the headscarf problem! Come on! The most simple freedom and rights for the people, it is present in Christian predominant countries ie UK and USA, but not in predominant 'Muslim' country Turkey. It is all very strange and strict secularism and who should be blamed for this... you guessed it... Ataturk. One things for sure, secular Turks fear Ataturk more than they fear Allah. Good Day. Assalamu Alaykum. Moshin (talk) 17:39, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

YouTube Video: [5]

Sorry about that. but YouTube in Turkey was banned because of conflicts between Greek and Turkish users over the abuse of Mustafa Kemal Ataturk over the video comments made about him, and you will see many attacking videos towards him about him being a Jew and Gay under-cover taking over Turkey, that is the reason why it has been banned unfortunately. Moshin (talk) 17:58, 24 June 2008 (UTC) Plus most Turks preferred porn to be banned because it conflicts with culture and religion, ever since the arrival of Playboy back in the 90s. Don't know why you brought that up. OK this is not very constructive for Wikipedia based on the userboxes, so Im not commenting, nice talking to you, good to debate. Moshin (talk) 18:07, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Erm.. OK... I dont look at those western things but I think people dont go on YouTube to look for porn, its against their policies. The non-Muslim population is only 0.2% compared to 99.8%, I think it does make sense for the right to ban it. If you want to look at porn really badly go to Google and type something in, but I advice don't. People can't voice their concerns over this issue, because pornography is involved with adultery - which is bad and wrong, against religion - plus... embarrassing. Moshin (talk) 18:19, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just 1 question if the AK Party gets the ban, then who will run the country after that? Won't there be a political crisis or anything concerning? Moshin (talk) 13:02, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You know I would have thought that all Turks would be happy with the country, the party has made it more advanced and the biggest and fastest economy in the region, is secularism more important than growth or the economy of the country? The party is the only one which is trying to get Turkey into the EU, they are looking to Europe rather than Middle East. Headscarf issue is only a matter of freedom and rights.

So if the party was going to bring Sharia, as it is a claim, then why would it look to go into the EU then. Secularists in Turkey do not want to go into the EU, because it will conflict with Turkish laws. It does not make sense so, if Turkey was part of the EU now, then there is no way Sharia law will be present in Turkey. By the way, if the party does get banned, Turkey won't be going into the EU because it has been decided by the court rather than the people casting their votes in the ballot boxes to ban the party. Moshin (talk) 14:13, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So in conclusion, secular people follow Ataturk and religious people follow Allah, right? Moshin (talk) 14:44, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Turkey map

Hi. I've gone reverted the Turkey map again, though it looks like you've reverted that. This really shouldn't be a debate about whether Turkey is European. The point of the map is not to make any claims about that sort of thing. The point of the map is very pragmatic: to allow a reader who doesn't know where Turkey is located to figure out where it is. So, in general, having a country in the middle of the map would seem to make the most sense, unless there's a very good reason not to do so (such as avoiding having half the map be ocean). It's also important to have countries that people are likely to recognize (such as England, since this is the English wikipedia) on the map, and the map I chose (unlike some others that have been suggested) includes all of Britain. The map isn't ideal (I just chose the best one from the ones available on wikimedia commons), but I think it does the best job of allowing people to locate Turkey. As for your note about Turkey not being horizontal, all maps (including the one you prefer) will necessarily have some distortions due to the nature of map projections. Please discuss this on the talk page so that we can get some consensus rather than having an edit war. Thanks. Klausness (talk) 11:04, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I'd say the Cyprus locator map should definitely be changed, Greece is borderline, and Italy is probably OK (though I think it would be better if it showed more of Africa and less of the arctic). But I haven't looked to see if commons has better maps for those, and I imagine any changes I tried to make to the Cyprus article would stir up huge amounts of controversy. But the fact that other articles have less than ideal maps doesn't mean that the Turkey article should. Anyway, I think this is better discussed on the talk page, since I'm sure other editors also have opinions, and we should be trying to get some sort of consensus about the best map to use. Klausness (talk) 11:32, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit to Greece

Please refrain from exporting your editing disputes to other articles. Editing against a long-standing consensus on one article "because of" an edit war on another article is extremely disruptive. Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:08, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

I saw your edits on Bulgaria and got interested in you, so to speak. I'll get to it in a jippy, but first to tell you about the maps issue - from my observation of wikipedia till now, I can tell you that you might get blocked if you don't stop edit-warring now. As Fut.Perf told you step down and re-think it. It's not a battle, but if it was, it's not that bad having lost a small one. As for the Turkey map - I don't think it implies Turkey is an Asian country or something, but the other way round it looked really bad. This is from a neutral point of view.

Now to get to you - so you're for a European Turkey and so on and that's great. I've being willing to meet such an editor. I've got tons of questions for you (EU is sort of a speciality of mine and they'll all resolve around it). Firstly, to get it started what do you think of Turkey's chances for EU membership - sooner, later, never? Who do you think opposes your accession the most. Well, that's all for now. I don't want to bother you too much. Cheers. :) --Laveol ^T 15:56, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits, such as the one you made to Flag. If you vandalize Wikipedia again, you will be blocked from editing. Please take this to the talk page. Your refusal to discuss indicates bad faith. There is no consensus to add the cypriot-turkish flag to th Flag page. Harry the Dog WOOF 16:47, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Map of Europe

According to the EU, Kazakhstan is not in Europe. Not even partially. The link adjacent to the image caption will explain everything. Could you please change it? I dont have tools to change it myself.--Satt 2 (talk) 14:36, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Revert-warring on multiple articles

You appear to be engaged in revert-wars across several articles and have broken WP:3RR several times now. Please refrain from doing so and voice your objections in the talk page instead of blindly reverting. Your edit summaries do not offer valid arguments, and mechanically reverting other users is really unhelpful. Turkey is not a European country and saying so doesn't make it so. This is why there is so much opposition to Turkey joining the EU. Most people in Europes do not consider Turkey to be a European country. I for one have NEVER come across a single source stating "Turkey is a European country". Only 3% of Turkey's territory is in Europe, so by your logic, France should also be classified as a South American country. Also, you argument about "climate" is even more absurd. By that logic, Syria and Tunisia should also be classified as European. As your contribs log shows, all you do is systematically go around and remove anything associating Turkey with Asia or the Middles East. I do not know what your reasons are for doing this, but please keep it to yourself and don't disrupt Wikipedia. Now, if you revert me one more time, I will report you. --Tsourkpk (talk) 18:06, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked

I've blocked you for 2 weeks for serious edit warring, breaking the three revert rule on numerous articles. Ryan Postlethwaite 19:55, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Stop creating socks

Please stop using IP's to evade you block, or I'm going to increase the block on your account to indefinite. Ryan Postlethwaite 20:35, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, please try to sit it out; there's no need to get indef blocked over this. What's with the European obsession, anyway? Care to answer? 3rdAlcove (talk) 20:47, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Given that you've decided to continue, I've blocked your account indefinitely. Ryan Postlethwaite 19:30, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. I realised that you are racist too! Cyprus, is an Asian island but you put it in to Southern Europe, but Turkey has part of its territory in Balkans but you deleted it from southern Europe! Why? Because Cypriots are Greek and Christian! But we are Turks and you hate us! It shows us that you are cruel and arrogant! Izmir lee (talk) 20:00, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Hellenic culture left mnay monuments in Cyprus. Later, by the mid-16th Century Cyprus had a population almost (if not entirely) Christian, and who considered themselves politically, religiously, and in a great many cases, ethnically European. Then Ottoman colonisation followed, making the popultion more diverse. During (I believe) the mid- to late- 19th Century, various areas identified with "Greece" gained independence from the Ottomans, with Cyprus falling under British administration following their assistance to Turkey against Russia. This is, I believe, a good part of why Cyprus is considered European. The irony is, of course, although Christianity is widely considered in Europe to be a European religion, it is arguably Asian. Three major world religions from such asmall area - must be something to do with the hot weather! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariya Oktyabrskaya (talk • contribs) 10:49, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

- Per our policy, you need to cite a reliable source for that information.— Dæ dαlus^Contribs /_Improve 06:04, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sockpuppetry case

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Blocked indef by someone. --Ωfrogger3140Ω2 omega (talk) 14:34, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Proposed Removal of all non de jure diplomatic Missions in List Articles

I would like to seek your view as to whether we should eliminate from the lists of diplomatic missions by sending/receiving countries all references to representative offices of sending states that do not have formal diplomatic missions with the host states. This would affect a large number of articles which relate to Taiwan, TRNC, Palestine, Kosovo and other states. Please provide your views here. You have received this notice because you have regularly contributed to either kind of article, or have had dealings with editors concerning the conduct of this dispute. Thank you. Kransky (talk) 06:43, 6 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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