User talk:Io Katai/Archive 1

Archive 1

Inuit

I saw your edit here and was wondering if you could also look at Inuit mythology, Shamanism among Eskimo peoples, Eskimo and Sedna (mythology). They all use the same reference (I removed the blog) but I'm not sure that they are formed correctly. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 13:02, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for checking. The book in question is not linked to the article in any way and was publised by Yvelinédition in June 2007. It looks to me as if Wikipedia is being used to advertise the book and I'm going to remove them. I don't have any French and the Google translation is so poor that I still can't tell if the publisher is a small outfit that specialises in new authors or it's a vanity press. Interesting thing is other than this the only other links about the book are Wikipedia and mirrors. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 20:45, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Pon and Zi

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Franco-Ontarian

I've removed the entire offending sentence; something that's been fact-tagged for almost nine months without a reference should usually just be taken out of the article altogether (especially if it's obviously problematic or questionable). For what it's worth, though, the person who actually removed the tag just misunderstood what part of the sentence was being challenged — he thought the tag was expecting a reference as to whether camion was the standard French word or not. Bearcat (talk) 01:48, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

AGAINST Capitalism?

So if you're a Canadian living in Japan, how come your name is Japanese? And I believe Canada has a Parliamentary democracy type of government, and Japan is a Parliamentary democracy and Constitutional monarchy, so how come you're against capitalism? Without it, wouldn't Japan's manufacturing capabilities decrease? P.S. I know how to put a redirect, but where do you put one (don't tell me to look at a article, because I already did and they didn't help)?

The redirect kinda answers my question, but where would you put the redirect once you're on the editing page? For example, I tested your advice and put a redirect on the very top of the page, but it didn't work, plus the page displayed "1. Redirect random".
Prottos007 (talk) 03:27, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Unsourced Information, David Archuleta

I, in fact, gave several sources to the information I provided. I would kindly ask you to visit those and think before you act. 69.133.83.124 (talk) 03:59, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

In response to your comment, here is my justification:

Under WP:3R I have the right to prevent you from re-adding your information which is only sourced by blogs; Unless the information is reliably sourced, then the comment used to personally attack the person's sexuality is impertinent and does not contribute to the article per se. Talk pages are not a forum for editors to argue their own different points of view about controversial issues. Please see Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines#How to use article talk pages for more details. - Io Katai (talk) 04:23, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Apologies

Sorry about that. I can see other non-roman characters ok, I didn't realise I had a problem with the khmer script. Bridies (talk) 22:50, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Badagnani

A user you have recent interaction with is the subject of an ANI discussion here. Please feel free to comment. --Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 19:33, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

An Invite to join Arctic WikiProject

The Arctic WikiProject

Hi, Io Katai! In light of your recent contributions to one of Wikipedia's Arctic-related articles, you are graciously extended an invitation to join the Arctic WikiProject. The Arctic WikiProject is a fairly new WikiProject. We are a group of editors who are dedicated to creating, revising, and expanding articles, lists, categories, and Wikiprojects that relate with the Arctic.

We look forward to welcoming you to the project!

• Add your name to the list of participants
• The Arctic Portal

Thanks for your contributions to Sadlermiut. You might be interested to know that User:Ratzer and I are working on a translation of de:Inuit-Kultur, which will cover all aspects of the present-day culture and cultural history of the Inuit. It's still in the works, and I don't expect you to help with the l'allemand, but when the preliminary translation is finished, anything you have to offer to the article would be most welcome. Lithoderm (talk) 01:57, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the shout-out, I wasn't expecting anyone to notice the article much. I wish you good luck with the translation of the Inuit Culture article; you might also want to take a look at Inuit#Early History and Inuit#Cultural History for comparison. I should also point out that the german article lacks inline citations, so just beware of that. Anyhow, I'll consider the Arctic Project sometime. Io Katai (talk) 01:21, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Hey

You asked me to stop, and even though i don't know what i did, consider this as my stopping. I don't know what you think i did to Inuit (to my knowledge I've never been to that page before now), but if you need to block me from editing then feel free (I don't know how to edit web pages so i really won't mind, and if it makes you feel any better about the situation then it's a kind of a win/win deal, isn't it?).

Here's your message, in case you were wondering what caused me to post on your wall... blog... thing.

"Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did to Inuit, you will be blocked from editing. - Io Katai (talk) 22:07, 8 November 2008 (UTC)"

Love and peace ^_^) 64.231.134.145 (talk) 02:29, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

I replied to your message on your talk page. No harm was intended in the message, and you're by far not going to be blocked over possibly someone else's single edit a month ago. Anyhow, just don't mind it too much. :P Io Katai (talk) 02:54, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK

Hi. I've nominated Khmer numerals, an article you worked on, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of Wikipedia:Did you know. You can see the hook for the article here, where you can improve it if you see fit. Great job on the article, I'll do a little copyediting. Thanks, Paxse (talk) 10:28, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Khmer numerals

On January 16, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Khmer numerals, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Dravecky 23:21, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations on all your hard work and putting such an interesting article on the main page. Cheers, Paxse (talk) 03:34, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

I have to admit I already snuck in and had a look at your new draft :) I'd be happy to help with anything I can. Cheers, Paxse (talk) 14:53, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Rideau High School

Excuse me.

But if you are removing facts about gangs being at this school, then you are ignoring the truth. Removing other peoples edits is vandalizing. So please stop, and keep your comments to yourself and the facts intact.

Cheers.

As I have already stated in the revision history of the page, your contributions were completely unencyclopedic and did not actually address the article at hand itself. They fail WP:NOR, WP:V, WP:NPOV, and WP:VAND. Please see Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not for further information on contributing to Wikipedia. Thank you. - Io Katai (talk) 03:29, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

So, you deny any gangs at this school.

Well certainly if I were a parent choosing which school my kids will go to, This wiki would have no merit.

And I would have to find out after my kids were at this school that they were just filled with drugs/weapons and gangs, a bad atmosphere for a smart student.

I would want to know those facts.

Its too bad that you have to remove the truth.

Do as you wish.

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Buzzzsherman (talk) 21:21, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

U of Ottawa Nominated for COTM

Hi Io Katai. I noticed that you are attending the University of Ottawa. The university has recently been nominated to be next month's WikiProject Universities Collaboration of the Month. If you'd like to see a concerted effort to improve your alma mater's article, be sure to vote for the university. While you're there, please consider helping to improve one of our current collaborations.

Happy editing. -Mabeenot (talk) 05:21, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Strong's Strongmen

Strong does not need you to defend him. He has a private army and control of most news media for that. Perhaps a world socialist government and climate change fraud is ok with you. It is not ok with me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.164.70.174 (talk) 17:51, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

As Marek69 already stated on his talk page, your edits to the article Maurice Strong consisted purely of vandalism and were subsequently reverted as a result. It does not matter who or what the article concerns, vandalism is not a justifiable means for promoting your personal views. For more information on contributing to Wikipedia, please take a look at introduction to editing. Thank you. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 21:38, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Oh

(sarcastic) oh, i'm so scared, what are you going to do, tell administrators that i'm actually a sockpuppet of long-time blocked User:Doughnuthead. Wow, i'd actually like to see you have a fucking try!--78.151.16.70 (talk) 19:38, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Greater Sudbury

Thanks. I must've missed that. Bearcat (talk) 02:39, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Edo script

The article Edo script has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

The script appears to be spurious

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

I notice you thought it was fictional. I see no reason to think it's real, apart from a rather unreliable web site at Cornell. kwami (talk) 06:33, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Requesting help/unblock

Partly transposed from User talk:69.158.68.37.

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Io Katai (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

My ISP uses dynamic IP addressing, and so it happens that I've been seemingly caught in a 6-year-old ban based on conjectures (see User talk:69.158.68.37 for further details). Particularly, this IP has no contributions, and now I'm unable to edit anything under my Wikipedia username user:Io Katai (all I get is 'View Source').

I've been told to seek an IP block exemption, but the page WP:IPBE leads me back to using this template, which isn't very productive. I also think that a simple exemption is avoiding the issue, when there's no evidence that the IP is used or has ever been used as an open proxy server or zombie computer. And thus, as it's part of a dynamic IP range, more users are bound to get unwittingly caught in the midst of this ban as well. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 18:26, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Accept reason:

I've granted you IPBE, for the moment. You should be able to edit, now. Salvio ^{Let's talk about it!} 18:36, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 18:43, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

IPBE removed, IP was unblocked. -- DQ (t) (e) 23:19, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism Prevention Request

Hello, I haven't participated in editing of Wikipedia recently, but I do follow a few articles. One of them being XenForo, which is constantly vandalized with links leading to non-XenForo related websites, and misinformation by the same user. MrBrogan (username here and a moderator at the official XenForo forums is constantly reverting changes). Here is a list of contributions provided by the IP address of the user:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/69.255.242.121

You'll notice similar vandalizations to Invision Power Board and vBulletin. The reason I'm posting here is because you posted a note on the above user's talk page (sorry, I can't remember how to link users) about constantly vandalizing pages may result in possible blocks from editing. I am requesting that this be revisited to avoid further frustrations for these communities and those who constantly revert and correct these changes.

Jeremy (talk) 05:50, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately, Wikipedia gets vandalized by thousands and thousands of anonymous IP users everyday, and the only best defense against it is simply to revert (undo) the changes made and warn the user (there are some basic templates you can use yourself). If a single IP user is provocatively vandalizing multiple pages or even just a single one within a small time span, and they have already received several recent warnings, then you can report the user to an administrator.

With regards to 69.255.242.121 "MrBrogan", his edits are too far apart to really merit an outright ban, at least, in my opinion. But if you notice he does continue to vandalize the same pages, feel free to use a higher-level warning (from the templates), or signal an administrator. I hope this helps. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 06:34, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	For crafting a beautiful article in Kagoshima dialect. — kwami (talk) 02:19, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

thanks, Satsugu

Thanks for the links. That intro to Ryukyuan looks quite interesting. Amazing that it's available online.

I found your draft Satsugu article in the list. It's beautifully done, but I see you haven't done any work on it in a year. Can we move it to main space? Whatever else you want to do with it, it's already better developed than any of our Japonic articles apart from the standard language, and it's a shame to let it languish in user space where people don't have access to it. — kwami (talk) 02:16, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, for the unexpected star! I've been really wanting to fix up and further expand that whole article for a long time now, since it does have a few issues in its current state. But alas, I've been a little too busy to get to it – I can't believe it's already been two years. I'll tell you what though, give me a week to develop it a little further, and then I'll push it into main. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 22:53, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good. An empty header with a 'to-be-expanded' tag would let readers know what you intend, if you're happy with the sections you've finished so far. — kwami (talk) 03:19, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

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dialect tree

Re. the dialect tree on your page, Hokkaidō isn't really a separate branch of Eastern, is it? I thought it was basically transplanted Kantō, with a bit of mixture, only listed separately because of geography.

Also, Hachijō has Eastern features, and Kyūshū and Western have things in common, so I've also seen:

• H-E
  • Hachijō
  • Eastern
• K-W
  • Kyūshū
  • Western

(not counting Satsugū split off from Kyūshū).

Oh, a favour, if I could ask? Under Kyūshū we list some characteristic features, but don't illustrate them. IMO it would be helpful to give some examples: specific words with Kyūshū inflections. — kwami (talk) 01:47, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

I never went into any detail for the main Japanese classification; everything at the lowest level is essentially a transplantation of the main headings from the Japanese dialects article, and everything else is a broad grouping based on some of the most recurrent divisional themes.

The main problem with Japanese, however, is the fact that all dialects form an intrinsic dialect continuum. So some features are shared over a certain extent, but others are shared over a much different extent. Different influences at different periods of time also cause a lot of problems. I'm not sure what exactly constitutes "Western Japanese", though it is apparent that Kyushu dialects share features with Western Honshu dialects (especially so where the regions bridge). But quite a number of these same features appear to be shared with Ryukyuan. And I'm not convinced in any way whatsoever that Satsugū would form a distinct branch from the rest of Kyushu. Rather, I'd say it's an intermediary branch between Western and Eastern Kyushu. The mainland of Kagoshima just has a few unique, but very regular phonological processes that make it seem more foreign than it actually is.

But anyway, Hachijō had been placed strategically so that it would be visually close to the Eastern branch. From what I've seen though, Hachijō has a lot of striking similarities with Kyushu dialects, but the influence from Eastern Japan is also noticeable. So I hesitated in placing it. Either way though, my user page probably shouldn't be used as an academic reference :P

As for Kyūshū, I don't know much about the other dialects, but the Japanese Wikipedia has a very nifty comparisons table that could be used as a reference. When I'll have more time to get back into editing and all, I'll try to add some information. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 03:00, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

fête

Do you pronounce "fight" for the word fête ? 198.105.114.217 (talk) 20:29, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

They're very similar and my pronunciation of fête would indeed sound like fight to speakers of most English varieties. However, as a result of Canadian raising, I pronounce fight as [fʌɪt̚]~[fʌɪʔ] in English, while fête is roughly [fajt]~[faɛ̯t] in my dialect of Canadian French. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 21:05, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Do you have a microphone for record the pronunciations in Wikimedia ? 198.105.114.217 (talk) 21:16, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Here's the best I could do, sorry for the delay. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 01:53, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Pronunciation of the word "fête" in the East Ottawa dialect of Canadian French.

Can you record the word caisse (but no repeat) please ? 198.105.114.217 (talk) 12:04, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

tête

You hear [tɛːt] or [taɪ̯t] ? 198.105.126.12 (talk) 12:03, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

In this recording, the vowel is definitely a diphthong, so closer to [taɪ̯t]. As for caisse, I'll get a recording up a bit later. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 22:35, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

If you record the word caisse, please record once (no repeat, not caisse caisse). 198.105.124.127 (talk) 13:33, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Here you go. I've also removed the repetition from the fête recording. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 22:29, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Pronunciation of the word "caisse" in the East Ottawa dialect of Canadian French.

Thanks for your recording. 198.105.124.127 (talk) 22:41, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

fête

The f sound is not clear. 198.105.124.127 (talk) 01:52, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

recording

Can you record the words treize, honnête, guêpe and neige please ? 198.105.124.127 (talk) 23:43, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I haven't had the time to get to recording these yet. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 15:47, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

hiver

You hear [ivɛːʁ] or [ivaɛ̯ʁ] ? 198.105.98.184 (talk) 00:18, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

The second, definitely not the first. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 15:47, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

caisse

The word caisse is pronounced with an aspirated /k/ in Ontarian French ? 198.105.122.37 (talk) 01:10, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

It really depends on the speaker and dialect, as Ontarian French variants aren't uniform. This said, the further West you go in Ontario, the more it's normal that people pronounce word-initial plosives with aspiration. Admittedly, I do more often than not, but I may not be representative of others in my region. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 15:47, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

You pronounce [kʰaɪ̯s] for the word caisse. 198.105.116.62 (talk) 23:25, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Canadian English phonology

In Canadian English, again is pronounced /əˈɡɛn/ or /əˈɡeɪn/ ? 198.105.122.45 (talk) 21:21, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Both. It varies by speaker and region. See Canadian English. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 21:26, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Can the word ticket be pronounced [ˈtʰɪkɛt] ? 198.105.122.45 (talk) 22:07, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

No, the first syllable is stressed, so the second is automatically unstressed ([ˈtʰɪkɪt], [ˈtʰɪkət]). — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 23:12, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

In Canadian English, muffin is pronounced [ˈmɐfɪn] or [ˈmɐfən] ? 198.105.122.45 (talk) 00:15, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

[ˈmʌfɪn]. I've never heard anything else. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 01:54, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Do you hear [ˈmʌfən] here ? 198.105.122.45 (talk) 21:13, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

I hear [ˈmʌfɪn]. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 21:09, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Can the word welcome be pronounced [ˈwɛlkʌm] ? 198.105.117.46 (talk) 11:37, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Yes. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 21:49, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

In Canadian English, the word new is pronounced /nju/ or /nu/ ? 198.105.97.231 (talk) 22:26, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

For me it's [nu(w)]. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 22:27, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

tempête

Do you think this pronunciation possesses a Canadian raising ([tãpʌɪ̯t]) ? 198.105.108.150 (talk) 16:19, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Canadian raising is an English phenomenon, not a French one. This clip is closer to [tɑ̃pae̯t] in my opinion, the first vowel is definitely not [ã]. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 22:06, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Do you hear [tɑ̃pɛɪ̯t] in this audio ? 198.105.101.210 (talk) 22:55, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

No. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 00:04, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

audio

I hear [paɪ̯t] here, because your microphone has a problem ? 198.105.117.194 (talk) 22:29, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

recording

Do you have the time to record some pronunciations now ? 166.48.181.95 (talk) 01:21, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

ヰキプロジェクト琉球

はいさい, Io Katai! I've noticed that you've contributed to the subject of Ryukyu. I invite you to join WikiProject Ryūkyū, AKA the Ryukyu task force, a collaborative effort to expand and deepen coverage of subjects pertaining to Ryukyuan geography, history, and culture. Here are a few links to pages to start you off:

• See the main project page
• Sign the participants page
• See the To Do List
• If you have any questions, feel free to ask at the talk page

I hope you'll take interest and decide to be a part of this project. めんそーれ! ミーラー強斗武 (talk) 06:15, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Template talk:IPA-fr

Hello, in the page Template talk:IPA-fr, you were saying that the word fête can be pronounced [fɛt], [feːt] or [fajt], but which Francophone pronounce it [feːt] ? Fort123 (talk) 23:05, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

It's been four years since I wrote that message. I no longer remember what region I was referring to, if any in particular. I may have just added it for the sake of the argument (i.e. that speakers of different regions pronounce words differently). — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 04:15, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

reine

Reine is pronounced [ʁɛ̃ːn] or [ʁaɪ̯n] ? 198.105.104.145 (talk) 21:44, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

For me, like the second ([ʁaɪ̯n] or [ʁae̯n]). — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 04:19, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Ontarian French

In Ontarian French, the word pâte is pronounced [pɑːt] or [pɑʊ̯t] ? 198.105.108.150 (talk) 01:00, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Colloquially [pɑʊ̯t] and maybe even [paʊ̯t], but formally [pɑːt] (give or take the aspiration of the [pʰ]). — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 01:17, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

• fête :

I hear [paɪ̯t] in this audio. 198.105.108.150 (talk) 01:26, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

I haven't had time to re-record it. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 01:39, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Maybe one day. 198.105.108.150 (talk) 01:45, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

The word caisse is rarely pronounced [kʰεːs] in Ontarian French ? 198.105.108.150 (talk) 11:11, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Only in formal situations where one would adopt a more "standardized accent" (aka un accent Radio-Canada). This is pretty universal in all French Canadian dialects that turn long vowels into diphthongs, and it also applies to other phenomenons like "moé" [mwe] versus "moi" [mwa]. It's also why you get a contrast between, for example, people who work in professions versus people who have trade jobs. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 21:26, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Caisse populaire is pronounced [kʰɛːs pɔpylaɛ̯ʁ] ? 198.105.127.120 (talk) 23:05, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Are we talking "standard" (aka TV French) or not? If not, then [kʰaɪ̯s pɔpylae̯ʁ] for me. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 23:29, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Extrême is never pronounced [ɛkstʁaɪ̯m] ? 198.105.127.120 (talk) 00:02, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Correct. It'd be more like [ɛkstʁɛ(ː)m] — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 00:16, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Même is pronounced either [mɛ̃ːm] or [maɪ̯m] ? 198.105.127.120 (talk) 00:25, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Generally [mɛ̃ɪ̯m], but I use [maɪ̯m] in the expression de même. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 00:36, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Fort is pronounced either [fɑɔ̯ʁ] or [fɒːʁ] ? 198.105.127.120 (talk) 00:42, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

[fɒːʁ]. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 00:45, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

In informal speech, phare and fort are homophones ? 198.105.127.120 (talk) 00:48, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 00:59, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Bêche is pronounced [bɛʃ] or [baɪ̯ʃ] ? 198.105.127.120 (talk) 01:32, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Probably [bɛɪ̯ʃ], maybe [baɪ̯ʃ], I've seldom heard the word used. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 01:35, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Aide-moi is pronounced [ɛːd mwa] or [aɪ̯d mwa] ? 198.105.127.120 (talk) 13:40, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

[ɛɪ̯d mwa]. But [aɪ̯d mwa] (mwe) might be acceptable if you want to show insistence. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 21:37, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

I hear [kɛɪ̯s pɔpylaɛ̯ʁ] here. 198.105.127.120 (talk) 21:58, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

I hear [kɛɪ̯s pɔpy̥lae̯ʁ]. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 22:40, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

The word caisse is pronounced [kɛɪ̯s] in unstressed syllables ? 198.105.127.120 (talk) 22:47, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

No, not for me. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 23:37, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Teachers have the right to pronounce [faɪ̯t] for the word fête ? 198.105.127.120 (talk) 00:24, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

There are no laws, regulations or rules against teachers speaking in their dialect. But teachers in the region don't forcibly come from here (many come from various regions of Quebec). So you get an array of everything, really. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 00:59, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Cette caisse-là is generally pronounced [sɛt kʰɛɪ̯s lɔ] or [sɛt kʰaɪ̯s lɔ] ? 198.105.127.120 (talk) 01:16, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Second. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 01:34, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Treize ans is always [tʁɛːzã], never [tʁaɪ̯zã] ? 198.105.127.120 (talk) 01:37, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

I'd be more inclined to say [tʁaɪ̯zã]. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 01:53, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Clairement is pronounced [klɛʁmã] or [klaɛ̯ʁmã] ? 198.105.127.120 (talk) 13:56, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

[klaɪ̯ʁmã]. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 21:30, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Aide-mémoire is pronounced [ɛɪ̯d memwɑːʁ] or [aɪ̯d memwɑːʁ] ? 198.105.127.120 (talk) 23:24, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

The first, [ɛɪ̯d memwɑːʁ]. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 23:40, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Tête-à-tête is pronounced [tɛɪ̯tataɪ̯t] or [taɪ̯tataɪ̯t] ? 198.105.127.120 (talk) 00:53, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Both seem fine to me. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 20:54, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Do you think the vowel of fève is shorter than the vowel of five ? 198.105.127.120 (talk) 21:30, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Not that I notice. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 18:42, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Fève is pronounced exactly like "five" ? 198.105.127.120 (talk) 19:12, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Il va être là is pronounced [ɪl vɔ ɛɪ̯t lɔ] or [ɪl vɔ aɪ̯t lɔ] ? 198.105.121.97 (talk) 00:46, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

I'd say [i vɔ ɛɪ̯t lɔ]. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 15:16, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

[ɪl vɔ aɪ̯t lɔ] exists too ? 198.105.121.97 (talk) 16:46, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

It seems weird to me, though I would admit both [a vɔ ɛɪ̯t lɔ] and [a vɔ aɪ̯t lɔ] for elle va être là. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 18:46, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

And [ɪl vɔ aɪ̯tʁə lɔ] is acceptable ? 198.105.121.97 (talk) 21:19, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

No, not to me. If you wanted formal, it would be [ɪl vɔ ɛɪ̯t(ʁə) lɔ]. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 02:13, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

In Ontarian French, arrête is pronounced [aʁɛt] or [aʁaɪ̯t] ? 198.105.102.194 (talk) 11:23, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Second one. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 14:55, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

And arête (with one r) is pronounced always [aʁɛt], right ? 198.105.102.194 (talk) 21:35, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

I've never heard the word, so maybe, maybe not. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 21:50, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Kung-fu is pronounced [kɔŋfu] ? 198.105.102.194 (talk) 00:25, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Yep. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 16:53, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Do you hear [vɛːʁ] in this audio ? 198.105.102.194 (talk) 18:59, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

No, I hear roughly [vae̯ʁ].

In Ontarian French, pizza is pronounced [pidza], [pidzɑ] or [pidzɔ] ? 198.105.110.145 (talk) 00:16, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

It would be [pidzɔ], though it's possible that some speakers might pronounce it [pittsɔ] under the influence of English. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 21:42, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Are there some Québécois pronounce it [pidza] ? 198.105.109.63 (talk) 22:30, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Uh, I wouldn't think so, but don't cite me on that. I don't really know any Quebecers who come from outside of western Quebec. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 23:21, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Maybe [pidzɑ] ? 198.105.109.63 (talk) 23:24, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

I still couldn't tell you. Someone from somewhere like Gaspé might be better to ask. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 00:19, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Do you hear [kɛɪ̯s] ? 198.105.109.63 (talk) 00:47, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Yes. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 20:54, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Are there some people pronounce the word pas as [pɑ] ? 198.105.101.210 (talk) 18:07, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

As far as I know, no. It seems like Radio-Canada French to me. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 21:43, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

OK. Do you think some people pronounce chat as [ʃɑ] ? 198.105.101.210 (talk) 23:25, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

It's the same answer, [ʃɔ], unless you're a TV news reporter. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 03:13, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

The TV news reporters must use a standard accent for everybody to understand ? 198.105.117.194 (talk) 21:19, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Yes. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 21:47, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Niaise-le is pronounced [njɛi̯zlœ] or [njaɪ̯zlœ] ? 198.105.101.130 (talk) 10:55, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

For me, it's normally [njaɪ̯zlœ]; however, [njɛi̯zlœ], [ŋʲaɪ̯zlœ] and [ŋʲeɪ̯zlœ] are acceptable variants. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 04:26, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

gâteau

The word gâteau is pronounced [ɡɑːto] or [ɡɔːto] ? Fort123 (talk) 21:03, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

[ɡɑːto]. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 21:36, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

tête

These two pronunciations are different ? [taɪ̯t] and [tʌɪ̯t] ? Fort123 (talk) 21:55, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

The second pronunciation sounds like the Canadian raising [ʌɪ̯]. Fort123 (talk) 00:38, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

father

In Canadian English, the word father is pronounced [ˈfɑðɚ] or [ˈfɒðɚ] ? Fort123 (talk) 21:37, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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Wiktionnaire

Hello Io Katai, ArséniureDeGallium thought you are Fête, because Fête often edited with Quebec pronunciation in Wiktionnaire. 162.247.123.201 (talk) 22:06, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Fête, but in defending me, you also got me banned. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 00:13, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

I hear [paɪ̯t] in this recording, you will can correct it one day. 162.247.123.201 (talk) 22:49, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

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Please stop evading your bans. It's clearly stated on both Template:Infobox language and Template:Infobox language family that "Altaic" in the familycolor field is being used purely as an geographical classification and not as a linguistic classification, and this is no different than most others like "Caucasian", "American", "Paleosiberian", "Australian", "Papuan" and "Nilo-Saharan". Even the talk page of Japonic languages states "Current state of infoboxes are that they continue to use the Altaic colour". If you have an issue with this, take it up on Template:Infobox language's talk page and request that an administrator review your request to change the value of "Altaic" or have it removed. Simply edit warring will not get you what you want. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 11:17, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

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