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SPA Article

Hi. I noticed you edited the SPA article replacing "an SPA" with "a SPA". I agree its a bit weird convention, but basically for acronyms the a/an issue doesn't go by the actual letter itself, but rather as it sound. For example, S is pronounced "es" but P is pronounced "pee" so an acronym that starts with S will get an "an" and one that starts with P will get an "a". This was just in case you were interested as to why someone reverted your edit. I have made this mistake many times, you can learn more about the convention at English_articles#Indefinite_article. --MATThematical (talk) 16:07, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the revertion... I'm not sure what I was thinking when I did that. (To be honest, I don't even remember making that edit.) Inks.LWC (talk) 07:43, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Importance assessments for Severe Weather, Non-Tropical Storms, and Tropical Cyclone WikiProjects

Hi. I saw you added code to the three project banners to pass their importance assessments to WikiProject Meteorology. By convention, WPMET leaves articles that belong to one of its subprojects as "None" or "N/A" to draw emphasis to articles that are not within the purview of one of the subprojects. By assessing importance to one of the categories in Category:Meteorology articles by importance, we lose that ability. As a result, I reverted those changes. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 08:50, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

redirect

Pls note that in redirecting storm damage to storm, you can't simply put it all under the section that you indicated, as it is not limited to such damage. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 21:06, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Where would you propose redirecting it to? All of the information in the original storm damage article is contained in that section. All of the information in storm damage was related to damage that affected human society. Inks.LWC (talk) 21:10, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

If it need be redirected at all (which isn't clear to me), it simply can't be there inasmuch as it isn't limited to effect on human society, but is broader than that.--Epeefleche (talk) 06:08, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

That was the (unanimous) consensus of the merge discussion. Everything in the Storm damage article had to deal with human society. Inks.LWC (talk) 12:58, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

XHT-W

There was nothing wrong with the old one, I was just updating to a more recent (in fact current) warning. Such updates help keep up with current warning conventions (which change many years), and keep the warnings referring to events that people generally remember. An example would be when they updated the PDS tornado watch example to be the PDS watch from the 2011 Super Outbreak. --Bowser the Storm Tracker ^{Chat Me Up} 11:31, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

But do you have a reference for it? Until there's a reference, shouldn't we stick with a referenced example? Inks.LWC (talk) 18:20, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Few of the example alerts here are ref'd. There really is no way to ref this, because it is not permanently archived on the NWS site. It is more current though. --Bowser the Storm Tracker ^{Chat Me Up} 00:16, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

There's a site that does archive them, although it takes a few days for them to upload it. I've been using that for any of the pages I've been creating, and it was the site that was ref'ed originally. I'll just add the reference when it's uploaded, but I'd suggest waiting until you have a reference before updating any of the others. Inks.LWC (talk) 01:12, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

This is the warning is question. I don't have a lot of familiarity with the ref'ing tag yet, so I would probably do it wrong if I added it. Could you add it? --Bowser the Storm Tracker ^{Chat Me Up} 02:47, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

I've added the citation. Do you have the link to where you got the Hurricane force wind warning? Inks.LWC (talk) 03:55, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm afraid I googled that one. The warning is most likely available on the same website though. --Bowser the Storm Tracker ^{Chat Me Up} 03:56, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

this was the source of the HFW-W. Found it. --Bowser the Storm Tracker ^{Chat Me Up} 03:59, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

I removed nothing

I just hid it, because nobody lets me even contest it when that bleeping tag is on it. --Bowser the Storm Tracker ^{Chat Me Up} 02:00, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

That counts as hiding it - it needs to stay visible. Inks.LWC (talk) 02:00, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

please at least just put it as MfD or something PLEASE!!!!!! --Bowser the Storm Tracker ^{Chat Me Up} 02:04, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

If I've improperly tagged it, the administrator will disagree with me and let it be. Inks.LWC (talk) 02:05, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Please remove the tag. the page isn't even finished! --Bowser the Storm Tracker ^{Chat Me Up} 02:06, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Tagging

Hey, I noticed you tagged a few images with the hurricane template. I love how you took care of all of the season articles and whatnot. However, the files should not be tagged, particularly when they just redirect to commons. There is no need. Thanks :) --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:55, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

I'll keep that in mind. Thanks for letting me know. Inks.LWC (talk) 00:03, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Solid work

Thanks! jorgenev 03:35, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you kindly

	Thank you for your support
	Thank you very much for your support on my RfA. I shall endeavor to meet your and the community's expectations as an admin. Qwyrxian (talk) 07:48, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Wind advisory

Why was this deleted as a redirect to gale warning? If it was made into a redirect, that should have been rv'd. I created that page as an actual page about wind advisories. Can you get it undeleted back as the real page that I wrote? --Bowser the Storm Tracker Keeping skies bright ^{Chat Me Up} 01:40, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

What did you write originally? Inks.LWC (talk) 02:20, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

An article about inland Wind advisories as issued by weather services. An article that was completely missing before I wrote it. --Bowser the Storm Tracker Keeping skies bright ^{Chat Me Up} 16:34, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Do you have a copy of what you wrote? I suggest making a subpage of your user page with what you'd like the article to say, and I'll read over it and give you some feedback. Inks.LWC (talk) 19:03, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

No, I didn't save a copy because I wrote it all in one sitting. If I had a copy I would have restored it myself, given it was deleted as a redirect which is not even remotely close to what I wrote. It was like Storm warning in format, with a few refs and an example alert, as well as a general overview of wind advisories. What I would like is if you could request undeletion for it so I could get the content back. By the way, Wind Advisory (with that capitalization) has long redirected to Gale warning. I usurped the redirect to go to Wind advisory (my page, with that capitalization) before it was deleted, but someone Rv'd it back to Gale Warning. Is that possibly what caused the confusion? Wind Advisory still to this day redirects to Gale Warning --Bowser the Storm Tracker Keeping skies bright ^{Chat Me Up} 03:21, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

I requested speedy deletion because the redirect seemed unplausable to me. Clearly somebody else felt the redirect was more ideal than your page. If you want your page restored, contact the deleting administrator. Or, I would suggest you rewrite it on your userpage and let me review it. Inks.LWC (talk) 03:25, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

You should be able to get a copy of what you wrote refunded into your userspace. Strange Passerby (talk • cont) 03:39, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

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Just letting you know I declined your speedy as it isn't a group or company. I then prodded it as a non-notable competition. CSD is rather specific in its terms, prod has much more flexibility (but is slower...). Peridon (talk) 17:10, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

I was always under the impression that competitions were considered organisations. Is that not the case? Inks.LWC (talk) 17:18, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Re: speedy deletion tagging

I've responded to your note on my page, see User_talk:69.59.200.77#Speedy_deletion_of_Category:1870-1879_Atlantic_hurricane_seasons. 69.59.200.77 (talk) 19:41, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for adding the reference for nimbus to "List of cloud types".

...and it's especially nice to see a patroller who adds more value, instead of just knee-jerk reverting edits because they're done from an IP instead of named user. Thank you! 173.206.131.48 (talk) 06:13, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Re TheNobleSith/Tropical Storm Nana (2008)

Normally, user space drafts are deleted using MfD. CSD applies in userspace for copyvios, but not this, AFAIK. Am I missing something?--SPhilbrick T 11:48, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

It's not in the userspace. Inks.LWC (talk) 13:34, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

How odd. I thought subpages in main space were disabled, so it looked like a subpage of user:TheNobleSith. In fact, I still don't get it, but I'll move on. But thanks for pointing out my assumption was wrong.--SPhilbrick T 19:22, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps it was meant to be a subpage of the user, but if I remember correctly, the page hadn't been edited by the creator in a couple years, and the storm really doesn't need its own article, as I am confident it easily fails WP:GNG. As for subpages being disabled in the mainspace, I believe they are (otherwise AC/DC would be a subpage of AC). Inks.LWC (talk) 21:56, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

FYI

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nonprofit, commercial, and other such agencies. --Bowser the Storm Tracker ^{Chat Me Up} 22:37, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Do you have an example of any? Inks.LWC (talk) 22:42, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

DCWS and TheWeatherSpace both issue weather alerts More exist, I'm just listing the 1st 2 off of the top of my head. WP:N is not an issue here because the wording of the article previously implied that ONLY government agencies issued weather warnings, which is, regardless of the notability of other individual agencies, erroneous. --Bowser the Storm Tracker ^{Chat Me Up} 00:22, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

They have to be notable to be conisdered ones that they issue. I don't see any flood alerts ever issued by TheWeatherSpace, and DCWS is your own project. Anybody can start a website and issue an alert. But they have to be notable. If I started a website called "The Defense Project" and started issuing DEFCON alerts, we shouldn't change the DEFCON article to reflect that the Air Force and The Defense Project issue DEFCON alerts. Inks.LWC (talk) 22:23, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

This is not a notability issue because as an encyclopedia we don't have a right to define what constitutes the issuance of an alert. Doing so would be a violation of WP:POV and WP:NOR. This is an issue of factual correctness, and to say that only government agencies issue weather alerts is just plain old incorrect. It doesn't matter who else does, the mere fact that anybody else does makes the statement that only government agencies do incorrect.

example:

statement - nobody eats pine needles.

fact - one person 5000 miles away on an obscure island eats pine needles.

truth - the statement is false because somebody eats pine needles.

--Bowser the Storm Tracker ^{Chat Me Up} 23:44, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

The article doesn't say "only". Look at my example. If I start a website issuing DEFCON alerts, should we change the DEFCON page to not say that only the Air Force issues such alerts? Flood alerts are issued by government agencies. Until you can produce an example of a flood alert that issued by a non-government agency (and not your own weather agency), the article should not be changed. Inks.LWC (talk) 23:47, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

In the situation you mentioned, it should just say that DEFCONs are issued by those in national security, but not being specific. So, yes, as long as you were maintaining said DEFCON site, we should make sure that the DEFCON page does not say that only the Air Force uses DEFCON alerts. The wording is unnecessary. In the wording that I have introduced, it still gets the information across without making any false statement. --Bowser the Storm Tracker ^{Chat Me Up} 00:23, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Coming & Going

Hello Inks.LWC. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Coming & Going, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: I've removed the copyvio. Still some doubts as to the notability of the film itself though. . Thank you. Ged UK 07:14, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Mackerni888:Sandbox (religion)

A tag has been placed on Mackerni888:Sandbox (religion) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section R2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect to an article talk page, image description page, image talk page, mediawiki page, mediawiki talk page, category talk page, portal talk page, template talk page, help talk, user page, or user talk page from the article space.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Inks.LWC (talk) 08:02, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

The Centre for Public Policy Analysis

Hi Inks. Could you tell me the reason you nominated this [1] page for deletion. I added the page as I noticed that it appears to be quite an important group in the area of human rights, and it's cited by news sources (see [2] where it is quoted in the Straits Times for instance. I have nothing to do with this group, and know little about them other than what's on there web page, but they are cited by reliable news organizations, so I'm not sure why they should be deleted? I have contested this deletion, but would be interested in any case to know your reasons. Mattun0211 (talk) 08:22, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Because when you created the page, you cited no sources outside of the organization's website, and when I googled it, I was unable to find secondary reliable sources discussing the group, and just press releases from them. Inks.LWC (talk) 08:34, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Ok. I'll add some secondary sources. I was really creating something for others to add to with more knowledge of this organization. Mattun0211 (talk) 08:42, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for removing that. At least it made me go and hunt down some reliable secondary sources. Mattun0211 (talk) 09:18, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

1950–56 Pacific typhoon seasons listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect 1950–56 Pacific typhoon seasons. Since you had some involvement with the 1950–56 Pacific typhoon seasons redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Inks.LWC (talk) 03:56, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

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Thanks! :) Inks.LWC (talk) 06:12, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Václav Černý

Hello Inks.LWC. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Václav Černý, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. Thank you. Salvio ^{Let's talk about it!} 10:42, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Where in the article is there a claim of notability? Inks.LWC (talk) 14:19, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

In his bibliography as a scientist and philosopher; speedy deletion is only meant for uncontroversial casee, I believe this article would benefit from a community discussion, as this person might qualify for inclusion. Salvio ^{Let's talk about it!} 14:35, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

But he's not mentioned at all in any of those articles from what I can tell. I'm not even sure why those are listed there. Inks.LWC (talk) 21:45, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Hurricane Katia 090411 1445 UTC.png

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Re: Conversions

I'm using the public advisories' conversions from mph to km/h, but I notice that you don't match the NHC advisories' units. Just asking, are you using the advisories' units for km / km/h or just converting the mph in the advisories to km/h? HurricaneFan 25 11:48, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

I'm taking all of my numbers straight from the advisories . There have been a couple wherey you forgot to update the metric version, and one where you put in a 6-digit number. Inks.LWC (talk) 14:34, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Also, I just double checked the last time I updated Katia, Maria, Nate, and the 2011 season, and they all matched up with the NHC's advisories for those times, so I'm not sure where I'm not matching up. Inks.LWC (talk) 22:49, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

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