User talk:Indymediacentral

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Indymediacentral (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

PomakRomanii is not a sockpuppet. It's the second account that I was foreced to make after the ban of my old account (this). My IP was also blocked so I coundn't even edit my talk (PomakRomanii) to ask for unblock. Please unblock the accounts and the IP

Decline reason:

creating another account while blocked is block evasion, and is a blockable activity. Editing at all while banned id not allowed. If this is not what you meant to claim then post another unblock request clarifying these points. --Anthony.bradbury^"talk" 21:53, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Indymediacentral (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I didn't make to sockpuppet. I make it to explain because I cound't edit that account as both IP and account was blocked. I was supposed to not use again that account but I forced becase the new account was blocked too. I want to say that now I can not even ask for unblock in my other account becase of IP. I request to unblock IP and the accounts

Decline reason:

See discussion below. Excirial^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 23:03, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Wait wait wait. To get this strait:

You and a lot of IP editors were changing the Ethnic flag page, with you being those IP users as well.
On 6 June, you got blocked on this account for being a sockpuppet in combination with those IP users.
You say you made the PomakRomanii to request an unblock.

Now this is interesting. Indymediacentral still has access to its talk page since it was not explicitly removed, so you could have made an unblock request at your talk page any time you wished (I see you figured this 20 minutes after PomakRomanii was blocked). I would also point out that a block removes the ability to create an account, so when you created your new account you also had access to Wikipedia on IP level, meaning you could have filed an unblock request. Once PomakRomanii was created it did not create an unblock request on your talk page either - it simply continued where Indymediacentral had left off.

In other words, i think it is highly unlikely that you made that account merely to "Request an unblock" as you had plenty of time and made plenty of edits elsewhere. Excirial^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 22:28, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How do you think that I achived to make PomakRomanii with IP blocked? The IP was changed. Now I have the same problem to PomakRomanni that I had to this before. The old IP wasn't unblocked. It is now yet blocked but now I have new IP. So is how I make the request. I didn't made the PomakRomanii to request an unblock but because I coundn't request unblock from Indymediacentral. I would abadon Indymediacentral but I was reblocked without reason.

You could have made an unblock request as you are currently doing at any one time, since logged in accounts can always edit their talk page unless this permission is specifically revoked - and you could have done so on the IP level as well. Besides, isn't it logical that if you been blocked for something in the first place, continuing with a new account will lead to another block? besides, your block reason shows your unblock reason clearly - " (account creation blocked) with an expiry time of indefinite ‎ (Abusing multiple accounts: See history of Ethnic flag)". Excirial^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 23:03, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I was blocked because I choose to login to the old blocked account whith the new IP. I could pretended that I am a new user with a new account completely irrelevant to the old. And then you couldn't ban me because I didn't violate any rule and you couldn't proove that I was the old user. That would be a real sockpuppet. This is what you want? To force people to sockpuppet? The calumniator that accused me, did that because he couldn't continue unding edits without any reason. He change the Macedonian Flag with an old state flag when wikipedia itself have accept the the real flag. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Ethnic_Macedonians as the true flag. He also vandalised my edits related the Pomak flag. He undid with the reason "Still no reliable sources". And when i give even more sources he accused me for sockpuppeting!

Note to reviewing admins: this account is most likely itself a sock of earlier MessiniaGreece (talk · contribs), which came from the same geographic area/ISP, had the same contribution profile, and ran up a block log of several entries between September and December 2009. Indymediacentral was created a few days into MessiniaGreece's latest two-week block [1] and continued the same reverting campaigns on Ethnic flag and Pomaks. Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:21, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]