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List of football players with dual nationality

I have reverted your edit to List of football players with dual nationality. Not only is there no evidence that Cavani has dual nationality, but there is no nation or CONMEBOL member named "Indigenous South America." —C.Fred (talk) 17:03, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Proposed deletion of List of multi-racial national football teams by continent of origin of players

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article List of multi-racial national football teams by continent of origin of players, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:

Content is already covered by the well-established and fully-referenced List of football players with dual nationality article

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Articles for deletion nomination of List of football players from Non-FIFA nations

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List of multi-racial national football teams by player eligibility

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The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:23, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List of multi-racial national football teams by player eligibility

Just an unsourced list of players with second nationalities that is unsourced. There are too many of these types of pages by this user User:Indigenousfootballdevelopment Spiderone (talk) 11:41, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. Giant Snowman 12:17, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom; completely non-notable and indiscriminate list. Giant Snowman 12:17, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing step 3). It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 12:23, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, non-notable, indiscriminate, unsourced, unverifiable. --Angelo (talk) 12:44, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Completely unsourced, although it's worse than that. If there was ever an article that needed some context, this would be it. Written in the form of notes, this is from the department of "you know what you're talking about, but the rest of us don't". The meaning of statements like "Cyprus -Diaspora - Wales - Jason Koumas" would be open to all sorts of different guesses-- Does Jason Koumas play on the Cyprus national team? Was there some type of diaspora of the Welsh people where a lot of them emigrated to Cyprus? Or maybe his family left Cyprus and he grew up in Wales and he's moved back? Even if this were sourced, which this isn't, do we really need to classify players with the labels born, foreign-born but raised here, mixed parentage, diaspora, naturalised, eligible for naturalisation? "Born", in this case, means that "this person was born here, but doesn't look like us". Not just original research, but original racial classification. Mandsford (talk) 13:03, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I second Mandsford's doubts as to the purpose of this article and its many problems. Drmies (talk) 14:11, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Aren't all european teams multiracial these days? This is perhaps the vaguest list I saw here. Delete per Mandsford, utter lack of context. NVO (talk) 18:40, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete non-notable list. Per above. John Sloan @ 23:15, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Overly cryptic list with irrelevant reference to "multi-racial"ness in the title. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:22, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. per nom. What Angelo said plus almost infinite (nearly all players can become eligible under the "eligible to be naturalised" clause, as they only have to meet some residency criteria and apply. Title is mis-representative (nationality and eligibility has nothing to do with race).--ClubOranje^T 11:49, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per everyone above. Struway2 (talk) 11:44, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per the list itself. It begs for deletion. Punkmorten (talk) 17:14, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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List Of Football Diasporas By Country deletion

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The result was a rather unanimous delete. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 20:25, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List Of Football Diasporas By Country

Fails notability, poorly sourced and also a repeat of many other pages created by this user Spiderone (talk) 11:48, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom; completely non-notable and indiscriminate list. Giant Snowman 12:18, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, non-notable, indiscriminate, unsourced, unverifiable. --Angelo (talk) 12:44, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Entirely unuseful, and what "diaspora" means here is anyone's guess. Under "Algeria" Matteo Ferrari is listed under Guinea and Italy--what does that even mean? He has an Italian father and a Guinean mother (by birth? nationality)--so, every soccer player born of parents (one or both?) of different nationalities than the player's, or every soccer player who grows up in a different country from where they were born, or every soccer player whose parents have emigrated should be on this list? It's worse than trivia, because trivia often at least explains what is being stated. This list does not even do that. And if it did, it would probably be listcruft. Drmies (talk) 14:17, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete awful list that fails WP:V and WP:N. John Sloan @ 23:18, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing step 3). It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 14:37, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete the scope of the article is nowhere defined, and not a encyclopedic content. Nergaal (talk) 15:19, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I usually don't touch sports AfDs because I can't judge notability at all. But this article just seems pointless. Hairhorn (talk) 16:32, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Agree with "pointless" comments. --Quartermaster (talk) 17:32, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Not just original research, but badly done original research. Tony Meola is a castoff from Italy? He's a native of New Jersey! Overlooking the odd use of the word "diaspora" to describe a person, it looks like the intent was to show where the players from each nation "went to". The problem is the assumption that everyone with a German ancestor is someone who went to somewhere else "from Germany", or, as in Meola's case, that if you've got an Italian name, you're a citizen of Italia. This is even worse than the "multiracial teams" list that was nominated yesterday. One might as well say "this guy's a kraut, this guy's a wop, this guy's a Yank". Mandsford (talk) 01:04, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I cannot figure out the criteria by which the entries on this list were determined. To take one example, the diaspora for Hawaii has two entries under it: for China, Brian Ching, and for the USA, Brian Ching again. This suggests to me that it is being claimed that Ching left the country of Hawaii to go and play for the Chinese and American soccer teams. However, Hawaii has not been an independent country since 80 years before Ching was born; Ching was born there as a U.S. citizen. He has played his entire soccer career for U.S. clubs and the U.S. national team -- the team of the country where he was born. He has never played for a Chinese club or a Chinese national team. Maybe the writer of this article knows what he meant by this, but he hasn't told the rest of us. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:14, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. per nom. What Angelo said. BTW, under the (I guess) determination of this list, you could add half of Category:New Zealand international footballers to England and Scotland sections--ClubOranje^T 11:57, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, not well done. Punkmorten (talk) 17:14, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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