User talk:Idelinya

March 2020

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Sichuan, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use the sandbox for that. Thank you. CaradhrasAiguo (leave language) 01:19, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't do so but fixed some misunderstood errors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Idelinya (talk • contribs)

You removed a cited source in the process, and have not demonstrated what errors were in the previous text. CaradhrasAiguo (leave language) 01:43, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Source is based on allegation and personal opinion, it is not credible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Idelinya (talk • contribs)

The book is still published by a university and is not something such as an opinion piece / tabloid, etc. You went from a million of its inhabitants (implying large or majority civilian murders) at the hands of Mongols to a million pieces of unspecified types of skeleton bones belonging to both Song and Yuan soldiers, without verifying with a reliable source. That is how this site operates. The latter claim could imply combatant casualties an order or two of magnitude (10 or even 100+ times) fewer casualties and minimal civilian murders. CaradhrasAiguo (leave language) 15:29, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just because it was published by a university doesn't make it reliable. I have seen many universities who have published fraudulent papers as well. The author only showed his own biased personal opinions and misinterpretation of the original source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Idelinya (talk • contribs)

I just provided you with a link to this site's general policy on verification of statements, and you appeared to have ignored i. You have not provided a countering source other than a vague <ref>'城中骸骨一百四十万'</ref>. If that is a quote from a source, you must provide the full source name or I will report you. CaradhrasAiguo (leave language) 17:17, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, the source is actually from the main historical recordings of chengdu《成都录》. books.google.com.sg/books?id=4MBZAAAAcAAJ&pg=PP728 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Idelinya (talk • contribs)

I do not read Classical Chinese well. What precedes the 城中骸骨一百四十萬 to imply that those are mostly from soldiers? The 城外者不計 afterwards is only in regards to no counts being kept for bones resulting from military campaign outside of Chengdu. CaradhrasAiguo (leave language) 06:01, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It includes the deaths of soldiers as well for the entire campaign. We are talking about the former allegation that stated "within" the city not outside of Chengdu so I dont know what you are even talking about. The source clearly stated that it referred to skeleton bones, it is not mean humans!