User talk:Ibn Sa'd ibn Abi Sarah

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Polytheism isn't normally upper case

See polytheism where you will see that both polytheism and monotheism are lower case except at the beginning of a sentence. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 12:25, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also, we don't cite the Quran for interpretations or other statements about history. We cite secondary sources. I have reverted your edit in persecution of Muslims. ~Anachronist (talk) 19:36, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Referring to them as "polytheists" is just a description of their actual religion, and is demeaning to them, either capitalize it, or switch all incidence of polytheists to "pagan" (since some would have only worshipped 1 idol anyways). To call them Polytheists instead is like calling muslims theists or muhammadists

Secondly you are removing important context as to why the Pagans defended themselves from muslim aggression, it is difficult to find historical accounts of the Pagan's perspective because of limited literacy at the time and biased muslim historians that persisted to this day, but this is what the muslims themselves agree was said at the time, i will try to find secondary sources in addition but the quran is relevant in this case Ibn Sa'd ibn Abi Sarah (talk) 20:46, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

And yet Wikipedia uses lower case. You could always go to the article and try to change the case there. But you won’t succeed. Doug Weller talk 08:57, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Paganism and polytheism aren't names of specific religions, but collective terms used to describe a class of religions with non-Abrahamic origins. These are common nouns, not proper nouns; therefore, they are not capitalized. Please stop edit-warring on this point; it will result in your account being blocked to prevent further disruption. ~Anachronist (talk) 07:26, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Amazing stubbornness. CIR? Doug Weller talk 09:01, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I conceded to polytheist not being capitalized, but Pagan is a religion(even if it's a generalized description of the numerous religions practiced), you even capitalized "Abrahamic" just now which is also just a category of other religions, "Neopagan" was also capitalized before I edited on this site. Stop being biased against Pagans, they are as deserving of respect as any group, or are you muslim and think they are the "lowest of creatures" ? Ibn Sa'd ibn Abi Sarah (talk) 16:27, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Ibn Sa'd ibn Abi Sarah You're being a bit over the top, no one is biased against pagans, one of my favorite authors is Ronald Hutton. But "pagan" should be lower case as it is in Paganism. And most reliable sources if not all. Doug Weller talk 16:46, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In the Hutton article you shared the terms "Pagan" and "Paganism" are both sporadically capitalized, my edits here and in the Paganism article serves to give consistency and neutrality, the status of the word is tainted by it's usage by Muslim/Christian authors who used it derogatorily and it conflated with lack of belief in their religion(ex Christians calling Muslims "pagans" for having similar practices, and Muslims calling Christians "pagans" for worshipping the trinity, in these cases "pagan" is more of an adjective to describe unorthodox behavior). If we are using Pagan to mean people who worshipped Hubal and other idols in the Kaaba then we are referring to a religion, if religions are capitalized Pagan must be capitalized. Ibn Sa'd ibn Abi Sarah (talk) 17:02, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Paganism isn’t a specific religion. We go only by what reliable sources say, not editors’ opinions. By the way, Abraham os a person’s name, so has to be upper case and not a good example. Doug Weller talk 17:52, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, I'm Doug Weller. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Criticism of Islam seemed less than neutral and has been removed. If you think this was a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. The caption “beloved prophet”, especially in the context of the article, is clearly an NPOV violation Doug Weller talk 08:35, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]