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Hi Wikipedia. Please Leave Message Here. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 19:13, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

hi wikipedia. i note that i break for avengers infinity war. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 23:35, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Updating Rotten Tomatoes

If you update Rotten Tomatoes values, you need to update the accessdate parameter in the supporting reference as well. -- Alex^TW 21:33, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi AlexTheWhovian, I Usually Do This But I Did Not See Reference For Star Trek Discovery Season 1 Page. Cheers. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 21:59, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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It's fairly interesting that you would register an account with a name stating such a specific purpose. I can't guarantee an admin won't give you a hard time about having a name promoting another website, but it's good you wish to be useful. Ribbet32 (talk) 02:17, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I echo what Ribbet32 said - and welcome to WP. I do like your username! For any questions about films on here, please take a look at the Film Project for futher help. Thanks. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 09:20, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I Thank You For Advice. My Edits Out Of Passion For Movie Reviews. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 17:00, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

February 2018

Hello, please note that MOS:FILM says about Rotten Tomatoes, "Review aggregation websites such as Rotten Tomatoes or Metacritic are citable for data pertaining to the ratio of positive to negative reviews; caution should be exercised when using aggregator scores that combine original reviews with reviews from later dates. Also, the data from these websites is potentially less accurate for films released before the websites existed; therefore, care should be exercised in determining whether to refer to them. To avoid giving these sites undue weight in such circumstances, consider whether it is best to place the data lower in the section." Some movies may not have been well-received upon release but become well-received later. Simply reporting the RT score is not helpful in making this important distinction. This will be an occurrence with older movies since contemporary and retrospective reviews are mixed together. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 17:45, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Good Suggestion About Moving To Bottom. However I Do Not Think It Is Good Practice To Remove. Because It Is Still Information. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 18:11, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Grammar nitpick

Not to be nitpicky, but can you please not capitalize every word? It just seems childlike. Kirbanzo (talk) 00:13, 3 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

kirbanzo, i apologize for oversight. i will stop capitalizing from now on. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 00:18, 3 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The "charm" of your English as a second or foreign language only lasts so long and wears off very quickly; not using capitals at all is just as childlike as using them on every word; you just come off as a wiseass. Please learn what sentence case is. JustinTime55 (talk) 19:50, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

i tell you i not native speaker and i see no capital in edit summary everywhere. i do not see problem. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 19:53, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

i do not see problem either. MPS1992 (talk) 23:20, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Italics in citation titles

Please do not add italics to film names in the title parameter of citations for Rotten Tomatoes or Metacritic. Neither website has italics formatting on their sites, and we should not be adding the formatting in. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 00:34, 3 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

favre1fan93, i simply going by what i see to be the norm on film articles. i edit just now on murder on the orient express, for example. i wondering if there is any consensus on film articles to not format? IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 00:36, 3 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If the website title doesn't have that formatting, we shouldn't be adding it. Simple as that. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 00:40, 3 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

so in that case i should remove italics from every rotten tomatoes or metacritic reference title? IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 00:41, 3 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Probably. But you shouldn't be going out of your way to do it. Nor adding them if an article doesn't use them. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 00:43, 3 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Grammar

Please stop changing proper grammar to force in your preferred wording for Rotten Tomatoes. "With" is preposition and not a conjunction. That means you shouldn't write "it has a XX% score, with an average rating of X/10". This is grammatically incorrect. "And" would be the proper word to use in this circumstance because it is a conjunction. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 01:48, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

i have no preferred way, only change to match other articles to be consistent. i can change article to use "and" where possible for future edit. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 06:28, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep doing what you do, IUpdateRottenTomatoes; your updates are a good thing! :)

The above claim about grammatical incorrectness is itself incorrect, or at least incomplete. There's nothing wrong with "it has a XX% score, with an average rating of X/10" if we consider the RT rating to be subcomponent of the RT score. It would then be a grammatically-fine sentence with a prepositional phrase describing the score; compare "she has a green house, with a brown door". The sentence, however, would be grammatically wrong if we don't consider the RT rating to be a subcomponent of the RT score, because the sentence would then be akin to the sentence "she has a green house, with brown eyes" (where the prepositional phrase would be attempting to describe the subject rather than the house).

If you do replace the word "with" with "and", then you need to remove the comma. The correct version would be "it has a XX% score and an average rating of X/10", not "it has a XX% score, and an average rating of X/10" (since "an average rating of X/10" is a member of a two-item list rather than an independent clause).

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i thank you for comment and suggestion which i keep in mind. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 22:24, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Italicizing

Please stop italicizing Rotten Tomatoes, Metacritic and Box Office Mojo. These are are online magazines or news site but review aggregators and a box office aggregator. These are not italicized per MOS:ITALICTITLE, --Tenebrae (talk) 22:37, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

i see no rule that aggregator is not italics. it is not right to put them as publisher because they are work, real publisher is for example fandango media and cbs interactive. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 22:48, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

i note you correct rotten tomatoes not metacritic. why? just mess up page consistent format. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 22:49, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please see the Wikipedia articles Rotten Tomatoes, Metacritic and Box Office Mojo. They are not italicized.--Tenebrae (talk) 22:50, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

i point out reference 13 in rotten tomatoes article. why italics in reference then? i precaution to not edit to prove your point. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 22:54, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

i also note you did not answer about metacritic. i find if you want correct rotten tomatoes and metacritic then correct both not one. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 22:56, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I did answer about Metacritic, linking you directly to the article Metacritic. It is not in italics. I understand you are new to Wikipedia, and I ask you to please respect our Manual of Style.

Also, the names of film festivals, TV networks and wire services such as Associated Press are not italicized. --Tenebrae (talk) 22:58, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

i understand festival or network because it is actual website of publisher, website is same name as publisher, website is mainly about publisher, so no reason for using work. however you did not answer about rotten tomatoes article reference i quote:

Atchity, Matt. "Welcome to the Rotten Tomatoes TV Zone". Rotten Tomatoes. Fandango Media. Retrieved September 17, 2013.

reference 13, i point you to article. and i note once again manual of style does not say italics on rotten tomatoes is not allowed. if you want to treat rotten tomatoes as publisher might as well delete fandango media. same with box office mojo (imdb) (amazon) so on. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 23:03, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

i say you edit to prove point, but useless observe. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 23:04, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

while you at it you can change reference 9, 10, 11, 20, 21 in metacritic article to match opinion. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 23:09, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Because the title itself of Wikipedia's article Rotten Tomatoes shows that RT is not in italics. And we routinely put publisher's name in parentheses, so there is no need to delete "Fandango Media". We write "publisher=Rotten Tomatoes (Fandango Media)". --Tenebrae (talk) 23:07, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

except you put rotten tomatoes in publisher which imply that rotten tomatoes is publisher. why need fandango media? if you really want no italic put work=rotten tomatoes so no italics but not publisher. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 23:09, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) There is no consensus to do that. You might want to take this issue up at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film if you feel you want to make global changes affecting every film article.--Tenebrae (talk) 23:11, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

i find certainly no global usage for, example (fandango media), in many article at all. also no attempt to change all article, only article with rotten tomatoes update. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 23:15, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

also i ask if any discussion previous? IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 23:17, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

At some point, yes, because the Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Film does not italicize Rotten Tomatoes, Metacritic or Box Office Mojo. Would you please go that page and see for yourself that they are not in italics there or on their own Wikipedia page titles.--Tenebrae (talk) 23:21, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

i find observe strange since this sentence in exact page of manual of style:

As of May 2015, 50% of the 68 reviews compiled by Rotten Tomatoes are positive, and have an average score of 5.2 out of 10.

this italic. and please do not change manual of style to prove point. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 23:24, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please go to the section subheaded "Rotten Tomatoes Top Critics" at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Film#Rotten Tomatoes Top Critics. What is your point? You found one mis-italicized usage and ignored ten correct usages. I believe at this point you are simply being argumentative for the sake of argument. And, again, please see the very title at Rotten Tomatoes.--Tenebrae (talk) 23:31, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

perhaps you not understand my point. quote is only usage of word rotten tomatoes in context of article sentence in manual of style. if there is example about usage in article context, i follow. i am not sure why italic in context must follow title. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 23:36, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

and i take issue with accuse. i see no structure, no guideline, each article do own citation style, often not consistent within single article. i seek to correct. this is for benefit going forward, make citation unified in film article. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 23:38, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

if there is consensus but not stated, yes, i follow. but i see no evidence of consensus. no discussion on manual of style for film article talk page. i find lack of detail not constructive, every person can pull own set of rule out of air. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 23:40, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Favre1fan93 NinjaRobotPirate what you think? since you also opinion about reference format. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 23:10, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

all discussion continue at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film#i comment about reference format. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 23:48, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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i don't know if you bad engrish or just fun. i like it. — Film Fan 20:13, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Are you only interested in updating scores for film and television on Rotten Tomatoes (i.e. not albums on Metacritic)? Would you be interested in finding automated or semi-automated solutions for this? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:44, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

i update film and television only. i am not sure on automate, sometimes reference is bad also. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 23:45, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

however i note i also update metacritic. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 23:55, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot! ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:48, 10 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Do You Update Rotten Tomatoes? MPS1992 (talk) 00:03, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

yes and i update metacritic and fix reference. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 16:02, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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i thank you for encouragement. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 23:52, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You are most welcome!!!! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:57, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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i comment it is strange you make current accuse as only second edit. my username only describe scope of edit, i edit by update rotten tomatoes. i note it is majority what i do, and it not promotion. i ask to point to policy which says any match not allowed. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 16:43, 17 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The part, after "IUpdate" matches a website called "Rotten Tomatoes". 2A02:C7F:963F:BA00:E969:5558:45CD:1422 (talk) 16:44, 17 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

and i ask you prove it not acceptable in policy. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 16:45, 17 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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i thank you for note. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 23:35, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi. Would you please update the reviews of 2036 Origin Unknown? Thanks a lot. —usernamekiran(talk) 01:50, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

i say i cannot update because no rotten tomatoes. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 01:58, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Changing template field |=website to |=work

@IUpdateRottenTomatoes: You've been changing the field in articles, even in those that have passed Good Article review. The Wikipedia description for Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic in their lead opening sentence is:

"Rotten Tomatoes is an American review-aggregation website" and "Metacritic is a website".

So until they're not websites, the template field "website" is a correct field to use. Pyxis Solitary 23:46, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

i comment that website and work is different name for same reference part. you can change if want. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 23:49, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

How long have you been an editor on Wikipedia? "=website" is for citations published by website-only sources. "=work" is for web-available citations from newspaper and magazine sources that publish in print (e.g. The New York Times, The New Yorker).
See Wikipedia:Citation templates#Examples > website > {{cite web}} and see > news article {{cite news}}.
When an editor uses the citation option in the editing toolbar located under >Cite >Templates > cite web | cite news | cite book | cite journal, the citation configuration is automatic. Pyxis Solitary 03:30, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

i make citation by hand. i comment also template:cite web has following: "website: Title of website; may be wikilinked. Displays in italics. Aliases: work". IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 03:57, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

i also comment that if i change i copy with other reference part from different reference. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 03:59, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You substitute "website" for "work" when you are citing the web article or web feature from a newspaper or magazine that is also published in print.
"copy with other reference part from different reference"? I have no idea what you're trying to say. If every reference in an article uses |website=Rotten Tomatoes ... why, then, do you change it to |work=Rotten Tomatoes? Pyxis Solitary 06:34, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

i comment that you will see change I make on carol (film) is |publisher=rotten tomatoes to |work=rotten tomatoes, is not |website=rotten tomatoes to |work=rotten tomatoes. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 16:40, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Deadpool 2

If you feel like updating Deadpool 2 that would be great. My update got reverted for no good reason. -- 109.78.247.34 (talk) 00:09, 26 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Accessdates

You do not have to change the accessdate, as you did here at Ocean's 8. It is "the date that the URL was found to be working", not the date you updated the material it is used to verify. Dan56 (talk) 19:48, 28 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

i tell you Dan56 that you skip rest of sentence "and to support the text being cited". IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 19:49, 28 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"And", not or. An alteration to the text does not warrant a change to the retrieval date. Furthermore, you did not retrieve the page on August 28... This is mostly meant as advice, to save yourself the trouble of changing the dates. Dan56 (talk) 02:01, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

i note i found url working and also support text on august 28. i also note you leave out "(or accessed)" on WP:CITEWEB and i access url on august 28 to verify. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 02:05, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The link had already been retrieved, on June 6, to be exact. Dan56 (talk) 02:34, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand Dan56's rationale nor have I heard of or witnessed the practice Dan56 is advocating. I'm going to ask WT:FILM. Nardog (talk) 06:17, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

i thank you for raise discussion on film project. IUpdateRottenTomatoes (talk) 06:54, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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i ask you who will now update rotten tomatoes

i ask you who will now update rotten tomatoes now that you retired. MPS1992 (talk) 20:10, 14 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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