User talk:IP law girl

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I would recommend that you substantiate your existence as a real and separate person, lest the accusations, baseless as they may be, that you are a sock puppet (see WP:SOCK for official policy) of Retcon and/or Netministrator. If you are using sock puppets, please use one and only one in editing any article related to Jehovah's Witnesses to eliminate accusations of a conspiratory nature against JWs who may be editing here.

Warm regards, CobaltBlueTony 17:39, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

First, make sure you are signed into Wikipedia.

Second, make sure to simply sign your comments in discussion pages and talk pages with 4 tildes (~~~~). This provides your logged in user name and the date and time (based on the server). Note that your comment, in edit mode, is signed with [[IP law girl|IP law girl|]], and not with [[User:IP_law_girl|IP_law_girl]]. Typing [[IP law girl|IP law girl|]] attempts to refer to an article on Wikipedia called IP_law_girl, which isn't actually an encyclopedia-worthy entry (no offense); adding User: ([[User:IP law girl|IP law girl|]]) references your user page. You may wish to investigate how to change your signature to be customized to your liking, if you have an interest in that.

Third, editing your user page (not this talk page) to briefly introduce yourself, or make other customizations to it, will add to your legitimacy. The only way we can deflect false accusations on this forum is to maintain our composure, adhere to the guidelines of this forum, and never make it personal with any editor with whom you disagree.

- CobaltBlueTony 18:06, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Editing Jehovah's Witnesses articles

Because of the volatile and tenacious nature of certain editors whose stated or subliminal goal is to detract from Jehovah's Witnesses at any and every opportunity, I am making it my goal to recommend to new and existing editors interested in JW articles to review the Wikipedia's policies:

WP:NOR - no original research
WP:V - verifiability
WP:NPOV - Wikipedia: neutral point of view (this one is critical to JW pages edits especially)
WP:CIV - Civility

We do have to keep in mind that Wikipedia is not the proper forum for any form of proselytizing. This is an academic endeavor, and to make it worthwhile for Jehovah's Witnesses to contribute positively, abiding by the rules of the forum and sticking to the facts will help us not only keep these articles and the discussions behind them free from ineffective and off-topic banter, but present a respectable product that addresses all sides, but keeps them in perspective.

It is best to ignore insults and off-topic discussions, addressing only the pertinent points so as to reach a consensus regarding the content of these pages. If you must address them, it's best to simply cite the Wikipedia standards and redirect your focus to content and format. I hope my suggestions help. Happy editing! - CobaltBlueTony 19:50, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Comment

I think it would be best for all involved to give Missionary/Retcon (I will use Retcon because it is the oldest of the accounts) a chance to redeem himself, and for all parties to terminate the inquisition against him. Using a sockpuppet or changing to a different account to escape unwanted criticism is permitted at Wikipedia. If his actions had been limited to that, I would not have responded to Tommstein's request at all as an ill-founded request. However, what led me to respond were two factors: one, that Retcon had fraudulently attempted to mislead people into believing he and Missionary were different people, and two, that he created at least one impersonation account, impersonating a person who he was clearly at odds with.

In any case, Retcon has acknowledged and apologized for his inappropriate acts; Wikipedia's "assume good faith" policy all but requires to accept his apology and move on. So let's please do so. I'd especially call on Tommstein and Central to lay off the rhetoric; it will not help defuse the situation. Personal attacks (such as Central calling Retcon a "compulsive liar") are neither helpful nor welcomed. There is bad blood on both sides of this issue, and frankly I'd like to see y'all work this out on your own with civility, rather than escalating the situation to the point that intervention by the Arbitration Committee is required. Kelly Martin (talk) 01:59, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I would just like to thank you Kelly, for your work in investigating and clarifying this "sockpuppet" issue. I didn't even know that I was being impersonated until today. Wow, this whole topic has seemed to have spiraled out of control for some of the editors here. I don't know how such things can be prevented from happening again on a public site like this one but I think that having some sort of regular monitoring of this group might be a good idea. I know there's no staff support for that sort of thing but maybe you could just poke your head into this forum every now and again for sanity's sake? ;-) Thanks again for your work on this site, it's greatly appreciated!! IP law girl 00:50, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

IP, on another page I offered my sincere apologies. I would like to communicate directly if you would be so kind as to provide me an opportunity to make peace for my actions. If not I understand. Retcon 05:32, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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