User talk:IP86.158.184.158
Thanks and welcome
[edit]Hi. Well welcome to Wikipedia. Or the benefits of registration anyway. I'm sorry if I came across as rude on the talk page but I don't think that a "Lies of Israel" article would survie AfD but I think you also knew that Stellarkid wouldn't really support it and that s/he was probably going to come back with some sort of hostile response. So I was just trying to head that off. I might have phrased it poorly so, like I said, I'm sorry if I sounded hostile to you.
As for the mentoring, well I'm flattered that you think I'd have something to offer but I'm not the most experienced editor and I'm quite erratic in my usage so I'm probably not the best choice. But I'm always happy to help if I can. I think Wikipedia:Adopt-a-User is probably a good place to look for someone more able than me for something more regular. And I should say the GoodDay, who I see in your messages, is a good user and a very nice one who I've encountered before.
And I should say that I noticed you said we're people who wouldn't normally agree. I'm not sure if that's true. I haven't been around enough to know what you think but I consider myself to not really be on one side or another of the unfortunate Israeli/Palestinian divide here. I guess my perspective is just the ordinary Canadian one. Actually if I can give you any advice to start it is probably that it is best to try and stay neutral in perspective as best you can and especially to try to remain cool-headed. Both of which can be difficult in some of the heated discussions in the I/P articles. And have fun. I think that's the most important reason to edit here. See you around. --JGGardiner (talk) 02:07, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- Hold on a moment, I don't quite understand this. Stellarkid made a suggestion and I want to take him up on it, a kind of "writing for the enemy" collaborative project. You and I may think he'll not be entirely happy with the result, but that's his look out. Why would bringing together examples of Israel having denied something they'd later confessed to be a problem at AFD? IP86.158.184.158 (talk) 20:07, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
- Well the deletion wasn't really the important point of what I was saying but you can check out Wikipedia:Deletion policy. I think there would be several overlapping reasons that editors would oppose it. But in general we don't create articles that are lists, especially of negative things. If a government tells a lie, it is relevant in an article about the subject of that lie but we don't catalogue all of their lies. I think that if "Lies of" articles were allowed, you'd have already seen them. But I'm no expert on deletion so you can investigate further elsewhere if you'd like. --JGGardiner (talk) 21:38, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
- If "Lists of Israeli lies" aren't permitted, what is "Pallywood" doing? The examples in there are not even proven, they're alleged by racists, using a racist title! In other cases, quite small individual distortions (eg photos taken in Lebanon in 2006) get an entire article. I know this is not your fault but it does look like extreme bias in the editorial process. IP86.158.184.158 (talk) 17:17, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
- Well the deletion wasn't really the important point of what I was saying but you can check out Wikipedia:Deletion policy. I think there would be several overlapping reasons that editors would oppose it. But in general we don't create articles that are lists, especially of negative things. If a government tells a lie, it is relevant in an article about the subject of that lie but we don't catalogue all of their lies. I think that if "Lies of" articles were allowed, you'd have already seen them. But I'm no expert on deletion so you can investigate further elsewhere if you'd like. --JGGardiner (talk) 21:38, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
User name
[edit]Please change your user name ASAP, as it violates our policy, or you will be blocked. Bearian (talk) 19:22, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- I think there is room for debate about this. The username policy page currently states "Some users choose to make usernames based on their static IP addresses, but this is not recommended". But it does not say it is forbidden; indeed we have active users with similar usernames, such as User:IP69.226.103.13 and User:NotAnIP83:149:66:11, along with other users who are not active but not blocked either. Another administrator has since removed the report from the UAA page; I assure you I had nothing to do with that. -- Soap Talk/Contributions 14:15, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
- Well, yes, I should not have been so forceful. I did not remove the notice at WP:UAA; Julian Colton did. Such a name is not recommended, as it is like to cause confusion. I will not block you or your user name. I do not normally erase messages on other users' pages, but you are free to do so. Bearian (talk) 19:33, 7 November 2009 (UTC)