User talk:Humanoid

I agree with you on censorship in Thailand

I strongly agree with you, but after I wrote up my thoughts (which took quite a bit of space), I realized that the thread is getting quite long and abstract and is right now only vaguely touching upon the practicalities of the article. Patiwat 03:20, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikinews

Wikinews allows anyone to report news on a wide variety of subjects. Its mission, as stated on the main page of the English version of its website, is to "create a diverse environment where citizen journalists can independently report the news on a wide variety of current events". WAS 4.250 15:59, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

2006 Thailand coup d'état connects to this wikinews article which does not connect as far as I can tell to your "last 3 articles [which] were published there." By contrast see H5N1 which connects to the category at wikinews Avian Flu. May I suggest you alter the 2006 Thailand coup d'état connection to wikinews to be to a category? Then I and others can more easily find your contributions to wikinews. WAS 4.250 21:14, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Appreciation for your contributions to September 2006 Thailand coup

Humanoid, your contributions to the September 2006 Thailand coup article are greatly appreciated. For people in Thailand and throughout the world, the article is a critical source for up-to-date, high-quality, uncensored, and comprehensive information about the Thai nation at this most critical juncture. Your hard work is helping to protect the liberty of the people of Thailand. I therefore am giving you the following awards, which you may copy to your User page.

		The Barnstar of National Merit Thailand
		Awarded for Humanoid's contributions to the September 2006 Thailand coup article by Patiwat 02:17, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

		The Barnstar of Liberty
		Awarded for Humanoid's spirited advocacy of Thai human rights in the September 2006 Thailand coup article by Patiwat 02:17, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For the Nation and the Constitution!

-- Patiwat 02:17, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please quote the passage in question when posting something to the Disc. page

I'm giving this message to both you and Roger jg. When you post something to the Discussion page with the intention of airing out an issue (a most praise-worthy action), could you also please quote what the controversial text in the article is? I'm reading through some of your debates, and it is very hard to figure out exactly what you two are arguing about. Even when I flip back to the article page, I still can't figure out what exactly it is you're arguing about. Thanks. Patiwat 07:19, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've added the references to my edit, and the 3 edits made by Roger_jg. Is linking to the actual edit good enough?

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19Sep.org

Thanks for checking on the block-status of 19Sep.org. Could you mail those results to a blogger covering the coup? It isn't really acceptable to reference a blogger, but it is even less acceptable to reference original research. You can try "New Mandala", "Bangkok Pundit", chuts.wordpress.com, or sanpaworn.vissaventure.com/log I want to include this information, but we need references. Patiwat 08:09, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done. I emailed the info to Bangkok Pundit.

You know what. I read your request before I went to sleep. And emailed Bangkok Pundit about this the next morning after I woke up without re-reading your request. When I emailed him, I didn't realize that you wanted him to post the information so that we have a more acceptable reference for wikipedia. I basically, just told him about it, cause I thought it would be good to get the information posted on his blog so that it's out there. And I gave him the link to wikipedia for him to get more information on it. So it's possible that he's just going to link to wikipedia, which I guess would not be acceptable as a reference anymore. I don't think I want to email him explaining all this, and asking him to do something just so that we have a reference for wikipedia. My paragraph about the censorship hasn't been challenged so far. And even Roger_jg who is biased in favour of the coup, admits that it's blocked from within thailand. It's not like the site will ever be unblocked unless there is another coup against the junta, so people will be able to verify that information themselves for quite a while into the future. Humanoid 20:48, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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WikiProject Free Software

Hi Humanoid, I notice that you're interested in open-source/free software, and I wonder if you would like to join WikiProject Free Software. We're just starting out, and we could really use some members. Thanks! Geekman314^{(contact me)} 18:16, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to participate in a coup study

I am conducting a study on information seeking and sharing during the 2006 coup in Thailand. I would like to invite you to participate in my study. If you are interested or want to learn more about it, feel free to contact me. Thanks! Songphan (talk) 18:25, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable sources

Hi Humanoid. You have edited here for a long time so by now you should know the difference between a reliable source and sources that invent facts like WorldNetDaily and primary sources like Wikileaks. When an editor removes content cited to sources like these, you should not restore that content as you did at Podesta emails. If much better sources can't be found, then the material needs to stay out of the article. Since claims are make about living people, the sourcing must be impeccable per WP:BLPSOURCES. Also, you should respect WP:BRD and WP:ONUS.- Mr X 13:06, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

What's wrong with cryptographically signed emails? That's far more more reliable than anything else you consider reliable. Humanoid (talk) 13:56, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:OR and WP:V and let me know if you see anything in those policies that suggests that we can verify cryptographic signatures and put our conclusions in an article.- Mr X 14:00, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I took a look at those links and don't see anything there that says quoting cryptographically signed emails are not allowed on wikipedia. If you have a reason for saying that we can't, you will need to specify it directly instead of just linking to something. WP:OR isn't even relevant. Are you implying that quoting somebody is "original research"? Does that mean that any time somebody quotes CNN or Fox News on wikipedia, they are conducting original research? Humanoid (talk) 23:38, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Why would you want to quote an email? We use published sources like newspapers, magazines, journals and books. We don't use emails for sources. If you don't believe me, inquire at WP:RSN. You can't read an email and then add your analysis, interpretations, or conclusions to an article. If you don't believe me, inquire at WP:ORN. - Mr X 00:36, 2 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You really don't know why anybody would want to quote what somebody has said in an email? Your newspapers quote what other people say all the time, your CNN and Fox News play the audio and video recordings of what people said all the time. What is it about a cryptographically signed email that makes it blasphemous to quote, as opposed to secret audio recordings that your royal media has blessed and repeatedly play on air? Humanoid (talk) 14:25, 3 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Heads up

One admin has been indiscriminately blocking respected editors who have edited Talk:Mark Dice. Please make sure to follow our policies accurately, especially WP:TALK, because he might block you for a minor violation. Other admins may agree with his behavior according to the thread at WP:AN, but we'll see where this goes. Cheers, wumbolo ^^^ 18:51, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

December 2019

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for violations of Wikipedia's biographies of living persons policy.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Guy (help!) 19:24, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Humanoid (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I recently found out that some famous person's name was being censored from Wikipedia, so I got into a heated argument about censorship on a talk page, and used this person's initials as an example of something being censored to make my point. I was pretty sure that using only their initials, would respect this person's privacy and anonymity. I was pretty sure that this was acceptable to everyone and would not violate any Wikipedia policies. Later it got worse when somebody asked "XY?", and I decided to answer them to avoid any confusion. When I did this, I got careless and sloppy, and might've divulged too much information about XY, which made the matter worse. I was pretty sure at the time, that I wasn't violating any policy, but now that I read the BLP policy in full, it's clear that I was wrong. Violating the BLP policy was completely unintentional. No matter how I feel about the subject, I have no need or desire to deliberately violate any Wikipedia policy. It was unintentional, and will not happen again. I have been on Wikipedia for over 16 years, and have never gotten any warning or block before. This one event was unintentional, and will not happen again. I read Wikipedia a lot, and whenever I see some mistake or see an opportunity to improve an article, I will occasionally login to make small improvements. My contribution history will show that I make many small improvements to a variety of different articles on many different subjects. I would like to continue to do so. Thank you!

Accept reason:

I am convinced that you will not make a similar error in future. Guy (help!) 17:04, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Your statements at talk:Wikipedia suggest that you tried to add the name multiple times, and triggered the edit filter that is there to prevent this addition. Is that true? You then acknowledge that you chose to use the initials instead, which is not cool. I am pleased that you appear to understand the nature of your error and I do not oppose an unblock, but please be aware that there is a difference between censorship and a conscious decision to stand aside from a politically motivated attack on a Federally protected individual. We will include the name once reliable independent secondary sources do - and not a moment before. It's not censorship, it's maintaining our long-standing editorial standards. Wikipedia is not censored (we include content regardless of how offensive some people may find it, e.g. the Jyllands-Posten cartoons) but we do so in a way that is consistent with the oldest rule of Wikipedia: don't be a dick. It does seem to me that you probably get this now. Guy (help!) 11:17, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

When I originally heard the name was being censored from Wikipedia, I assumed it was through edit wars. I believed some editors were adding the name into articles, and other editors were reverting those changes to delete the name. And I thought this only happened in articles, not in talk pages. I had no idea there was a site wide ban, filter, or policy against the writing of the name. I wrote the name once in a talk page as an example of something being censored, and that's when I got a warning from the filter. I only wrote the name this one time, not multiple times. When I got the message from the filter not to do it, I stayed away from the full name, and did not try to add it again. I did not try to get around the filter in anyway by misspelling or obfuscating it, which is what somebody who wants to violate the filter would try to do. That's why I only used initials, because I did not want to upset anybody or violate the purpose of filter. I seriously thought 2 letters would be acceptable to everybody. The filter did it job well in warning me, and I never tried to violate this filter again. So in summary, yes, I triggered the filter, but only one time Humanoid (talk) 13:30, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Humanoid, OK. I think you know why we are not including this name, and I think you will be more cautious in future. Guy (help!) 17:04, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Testing template terminology

Regarding these edits [1], my view is that using the term "China" is inconsistent with other relative templates & articles on the pandemic. For example, 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic in mainland China incorperates the term "mainland China" in the title. Template:2019–20 coronavirus pandemic data uses "China (mainland)" too. There was also a dispute resolution regarding the terminology, and the concerns and problems for using "China" straightforward has been addressed comprehensively there. The consensus was to use "China (mainland)" though. -- Akira😼CA 06:40, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The two countries are called China and Taiwan. It has been the standard in the English speaking world for decades. It has been the standard on Wikipedia from the beginning. Stop pushing your local politics onto the rest of the world.

The above unsigned comment is extremely uncivil and ignorant in terms of the established consensus on dispute resolution noticeboard. It has been the standard on Wikipedia from the beginning no it's not. The article of Taiwan is titled "Republic of China" before this move (not even one decade ago) predominantly due to WP:COMMONNAME, which applies to article titles only. Stop pushing your local politics onto the rest of the world. this a serious accusation, so you are told to assume good faith and provide serious evidence. Otherwise you are personal attacking which might result in you being blocked again. -- Akira😼CA 07:33, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You come to my talk page, make 14 edits to my talk page, insult me, and threaten me! Stay away from my talk page. Don't reply to this, and GO AWAY! Humanoid (talk) 08:20, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Responds on Talk Page

See Talk:2020 coronavirus pandemic in Quebec --Gau Choob (talk) 22:40, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]